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The Dive's Covid Thread

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nepalnt21 said:
i don't block people.

i love how i call out your bullshit and get my posts edited by the mods, you and the other antivaxxards directly insult me and crickets.

not that i care if you insult me, i just wanna be able to speak freely.
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You have my permission to say whatever you want to me, but don’t get mad at me when you ask for sources that don’t exist because there still hasn’t been a appropriate trial on the vax, which should at the very least concern you…if I had the means I’d do one, but I don’t so all we can do is look at all the “coincidences” and piece it together ourselves , I swear you act like I have something to gain from the vax not being as advertised
 
nepalnt21 said:
i don't block people.

i love how i call out your bullshit and get my posts edited by the mods, you and the other antivaxxards directly insult me and crickets.

not that i care if you insult me, i just wanna be able to speak freely.
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we all get edited from time to time - don't sweat it too much


try being nice to lvg and see if he starts being nice back...sometimes that works

:group hug:
 
i'm more concerned with the lack of sources for ridiculous claims.

and back to the thing i posted... what am i missing @Mr. Krinkle ???

i found a bunch more on my google search, from various universities and journals as well as nih.

it's pretty well established that the heart issues are more likely from the virus w/o vaccination, maybe you have some study i missed that demonstrates this to not be the case?
 
well

they're just comparing the rate of incidence of myocarditis from covid compared to the rate of incidence of myocarditis from just the vaccine


so the people who don't catch covid or don't get the vaccine have the best chance of not having myocarditis - right?


and your likelihood of catching covid increases from getting the vaccine - so your likelihood of myocarditis is two-fold - once from the vaccine and once if you end up contracting covid
 
there are other studies that support that getting the vaccine also reduces your chance of getting the heart stuff from covid, also...
Mr. Krinkle said:
so the people who don't catch covid or don't get the vaccine have the best chance of not having myocarditis - right?
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i don't see your point... are you saying it's better to just stick yourself in a panic room and never get vaxxed/ never risk exposure to another human that might have covid?
 
nepalnt21 said:
there are other studies that support that getting the vaccine also reduces your chance of getting the heart stuff from covid, also...

i don't see your point... are you saying it's better to just stick yourself in a panic room and never get vaxxed/ never risk exposure to another human that might have covid?
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my point is, is that you're probably much better off just wingin it au naturel just like me :)
 
But your still in the situation of if you get vaccinated then get COVID there is no real way to determine what caused the myocarditis, unless the studies have a good control group of unvaxed people to see how likely they are to get it after having COVID, again we need to see how these studies were conducted to see if there is any validity to them or if it’s just some bullshit
 
Anybody remember this from Oct 2021?

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it's pretty well established that quite a few viruses can lead to cardiac diseases, including myocarditis... not sure why it's anecdotes that are magically undermining decades of medical consensus for you, but to each their own i guess...

do you guys go wingin' it au natural with car accidents as well?

we have a great skeletal system! made of metal! don't you know seatbelts can cause bruising and lacerations?!?!
 
nepalnt21 said:
do you guys go wingin' it au natural with car accidents as well?

we have a great skeletal system! made of metal! don't you know seatbelts can cause bruising and lacerations?!?!
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yea but seat belts were at least studied for a few years before they became mandatory to wear

:shrug:
 
and seat belts don't work less and less with time and they don't need to be updated every 3 months to keep up with the newest car accident that you might get into
 
nepalnt21 said:
it's pretty well established that quite a few viruses can lead to cardiac diseases, including myocarditis... not sure why it's anecdotes that are magically undermining decades of medical consensus for you, but to each their own i guess...

do you guys go wingin' it au natural with car accidents as well?

we have a great skeletal system! made of metal! don't you know seatbelts can cause bruising and lacerations?!?!
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Or…..getting myocarditis is a possibility but VERY rare, and now they are just trying to make it seem like people been getting it at this rate all along
 
luckily i live in the u.s. where the government does not mandate that you get vaccinated.

and the analogy is fine, no analogy is supposed to be identical to the thing you're analogizing (did i just make up that word?),,, that's like kinda the POINT of an analogy, that it is NOT identical.

seatbelts sometimes injure, and yet they save many lives.

vaccines SOMETIMES injure (rarely, especially when compared to the pandemic), and yet have saved millions of lives.
 
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