The Dive's Covid Thread

[swilow]

I don't need medical experts to tell me the shots are bad, I can just rely on my intuition

What does your Intuition tell you about quantum physics or electricity? Good feeling or bad feeling?

 

[Electrum1]

That they're both bad and good depending on how they're used. What's your point tho, something like I should ignore my intuition when it comes to Covid pharmaceutical products?

 

[thujone]

It's funny, during the pandemic the news media and politicians couldn't go more than a few hours without repeating the latest statistics, showing animated graphs that made it abundantly clear that death was all around! But the WHO has declared the emergency over, yet excess death rates are still anywhere from 7%-15%+ depending on where you are, and the media and politicians are absolutely silent about it.

It's easy to suggest it's all down to the backlog in the health services. So, why haven't the media and politicians stated this unequivocally? If after all the vaccines are safe and effective, and disinformation is on par with terrorism, then why have these establishment figures not stated it? Why when pressed in British Parliament by one single fucking MP have these snakes walked out of the chamber or just not bothered to even be there? I think the answer is pretty simple. None of them want to go on record stating something that could then be used as evidence against them at a later date, so they choose to remain silent. Remaining silent also prevents discussion, which ultimately leads to question and investigation.

7%-15% above average, sustained across the EU and elsewhere, is just incredible. Actually incredible.

healthcare industry was also mostly quiet about it.

doctors are literally forbidden from abiding by the hippocratic oath because of non-practicing doctors that became healthcare bureaucrats and dictate how doctors are permitted to treat patients.

the system is fundamentally fucked in same way it was during soviet occupation. healthcare is where lysenkoism survives because of the large amounts of fraud in the industry.

they lie by pretending to do science, they lie by pretending to have answers, they lie through statistics and odds knowing they can't guarantee shit so instead of doing the right thing and saying "i just don't know" they lie

 

[Droppersneck]

Lol. Remember how many people on here fell for the media and FDA attacking ivermectin back then?

It’s all about what the media says, and how their clique perceives something. It’s scary to me that so much of the population is as easily manipulated and low information.

 

[swilow]

Credentialism helps many cope. There are just as many experts that disagree with your favored view, same goes for me. I don’t care what you believe, just for the love of god think about what you put in your body. The pharmaceutical industry isn’t trustworthy, even if the media and your entire social clique implore you to believe it to be, it just simply is not.

Credentials are different to expertise. But I was mainly talking about ignorant people, like me, you, and most other posters here. I can read statistics and pretend I understand them too. None of us know fuck all about covid or excess death or any of this shit.

Fwiw, my social clique don't implore me to do anything. You're just arguing in the way most antivaxx people argue which is to regurgitate memes and act like you're enlightened and others are sheep. From where I stand, you're just as guilty of conforming to the opinions of others as I am. It's just that others you conform to are fringe dwellers and that is what appeals to you because it makes you feel unique or privy to hidden knowledge and better than others. Fine. There are millions of people like that. How special do you feel now?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Some people have no humility when it comes to understanding science. They believe whatever they are told by their preferred source, which is exactly what they claim of people who got the vaccine.

yea but you're not supposed to still get sick multiple times from what you were vaccinated for

i don't need science or a preferred source to tell me that

 

[Fire&Water]

Lying to the public while holding a job for the gov't
is coming into style in a big way

 

[kiely]

yea but you're not supposed to still get sick multiple times from what you were vaccinated for

i don't need science or a preferred source to tell me that

aND THEY SAID right at the begging of the scamdemic that you only have to get one shot and then you will be immune and you won't get it.

Right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like I won't get the FLU if I get the that shot. Even me a village idiot said yeah right. Uh huh ! Sorry.

 

[kiely]

Lying to the public while holding a job for the gov't
is coming into style in a big way

Larger than EVER.

 

[kiely]

Oh Doh, and don't get me started telling 'vaxterd' jokes. omg.

 

[Fire&Water]

Ninety percent of them would get a boot up their ass in the private sector

deservedly

 

[kiely]

Right.

 

[Jabberwocky]

yea but you're not supposed to still get sick multiple times from what you were vaccinated for

I'm kinda surprised I only had it once, and everyone I know irl had it only once.

Because they said it was the new normal, that people would get covid once per year like the flu... and now you see literally nothing about covid in the news. Completely devoid of covid news or stats.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Lying to the public while holding a job for the gov't
is coming into style in a big way

Yeah. Just like most of our senators, and even the president. Very fashionable. I think Trump takes the Guinness record for the most lies in this capacity.

And their constituents don't care about lies if they agree with them.... the lies become their new truth.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I'm kinda surprised I only had it once, and everyone I know irl had it only once.

Because they said it was the new normal, that people would get covid once per year like the flu... and now you see literally nothing about covid in the news. Completely devoid of covid news or stats.

bullshit - it's in the news now

COVID comeback: hospitalizations increase in New Jersey

This new summer surge might also be related to vaccine effectiveness wearing off as the virus continues to mutate.

www.cbsnews.com

they're saying it's because the vaccines are wearing off

 

[-=SS=-]

I'm kinda surprised I only had it once, and everyone I know irl had it only once.

Because they said it was the new normal, that people would get covid once per year like the flu... and now you see literally nothing about covid in the news. Completely devoid of covid news or stats.

Still not had it once.

I'm seeing a subtle increase in stories again though about new variants, disease X (lol), and general panic mongering about how the NHS will not cope this winter.

Yeah. Just like most of our senators, and even the president. Very fashionable. I think Trump takes the Guinness record for the most lies in this capacity.

Is this actually the truth though. How are you even comparing accurately when it is clear the media has a bias against Trump. MI6 (Steele/British Establishment), CIA, and their media lackeys have shown just how far they were prepared to go by intentionally misleading the public with lies. Conversely the burying of Hunter Biden's laptop during the election cycle shows a clear bias towards the politicians they favour.

They are all full of shit as far as I'm concerned. That's a requirement for the role. Both in the USA and UK, every single President or PM for the past few decades (my observation period) have been chronic liars. Bush and Blair conned everyone into a destroying another nation - obviously they weren't the sole forces involved, but they were happy to play the part.

Then there's the past three years. Virtually every single politician and media lackey failed to accurately represent the situation, and oversold the fear to a degree which is clearly beyond just incompetence. The whole top portion of the political establishment, which includes those who work behind the scenes (Whitehall in the UK, the media, various government advisory bodies, think-tanks, etc), are completely corrupt and full of shit.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i probably xray at least 3 to 5 people a week with covid

a couple places ive went to recently were experiencing outbreaks....a couple employees acting like it's the plague still....idiots....this one dude wanted me to wipe down my machine with bleach wipes and i told him to get away from me.....and then i overheard him say "he's spreading germs throughout the whole facility now".....that's the second time he's crossed my path - the first time he wanted me to wear a gown into a room with somebody who had shingles....shingles isn't contagious you fuckin idiot....to be continued....


but every single one of the covid positive patients, they were fine when i went into their room - and i ask every single one of them "how ya feeling?"

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

They are all full of shit as far as I'm concerned. That's a requirement for the role. Both in the USA and UK, every single President or PM for the past few decades (my observation period) have been chronic liars.

The whole top portion of the political establishment, which includes those who work behind the scenes (Whitehall in the UK, the media, various government advisory bodies, think-tanks, etc), are completely corrupt and full of shit.

QFT

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Droppersneck]

Credentials are different to expertise. But I was mainly talking about ignorant people, like me, you, and most other posters here. I can read statistics and pretend I understand them too. None of us know fuck all about covid or excess death or any of this shit.

Fwiw, my social clique don't implore me to do anything. You're just arguing in the way most antivaxx people argue which is to regurgitate memes and act like you're enlightened and others are sheep. From where I stand, you're just as guilty of conforming to the opinions of others as I am. It's just that others you conform to are fringe dwellers and that is what appeals to you because it makes you feel unique or privy to hidden knowledge and better than others. Fine. There are millions of people like that. How special do you feel now?

Tbf I read alot of experts that have substacks. The difference is, many times they are much more trustworthy than any mainstream source. As all mainstream and government sources are captured, and will just say w/e corporation is paying. Reminds me of the fact check industry lol

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