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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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People don't automatically have the right to have what ever medical procedure or medicine they want to have. That's half the reason why this forum even exists, because we don't have the right to take everything as defined by law because governments have decided, rightly or wrongly, that it's not a good idea for us to. It's why we have prescriptions and only doctors are licensed to dispense certain substances under prescription (or in emergency situations). I don't have a right to go and demand a bunch of medications or medical procedures.. I can try, but doctors are within their rights to not give it to me.
You're shooting YOURSELF in the foot with this. It was only a matter of time I suppose.

So it's alright for the medical profession to deny you substances or medical procedures that MAY NOT be in your best interests (based on their knowledge and the science) but it's NOT alright for them to INSIST (based on their knowledge and the science) that you DO take certain substances or have medical procedures that COULD be beneficial to you and your future well being?
 
come on bro, really?

flu shots last years? why do you need to get it every flu season?

covid vaccinations are a different type of vaccine, that's why you need booster shots

that's where the vaccine racket became even more profitable

you need one every year....except with covid, you need 3 a year


omicron hasn't killed a single person yet (fact) but the booster is what really protects you - so get yours today!
 
that's where the vaccine racket became even more profitable

you need one every year....except with covid, you need 3 a year
lol so what about the flu vaccine racket? hmm....

flu vaccine is also a conspiracy? you need one 1-2x per year, and they've been doing it for DECADES... omg.... did they already mind control all of us? WHAT ABOUT THE FLU VACCINE?!?!?!?!

omicron hasn't killed a single person yet (fact) but the booster is what really protects you - so get yours today!
jesus fucking christ I feel like you argue with flight attendants when they tell you to keep your seat belt buckled on an airplane and scream about your liberty being violated

it's actually a really childish whiny perspective to be THIS LEVEL antagonistic towards BASIC ASS HEALTH ADVICE

tell me, what other things that the government tells you to do that you choose not to do? I'm genuinely curious. What other infringements on your freedoms to you experience? (I'm not joking, please answer, I'm curious)

you have not once given me a unique perspective outside of the mainstream "LIBERALS ARE TAKING MY FREEDOMS BY JABBING ME" argument, which is stupid

You have zero sense of the greater good or public health. You pander to whatever youtube video tells you to do. You are a sheep. You are being programmed and brainwashed by the very people who tell you that the left is brainwashed. It's sad really.

but I hope you have a good night :)

it's all so stupid

YOU are programmed to hate ME or anyone who thinks like ME (the majority of humans). Why?

Why? Tell me why?

in fact tell me anything other than some conspiracy.... please

The vaccine racket.... The science which changes as soon as they find out more science.... The public health mandates....

I hear you cry conspiracy for almost 2 years now and have YET to hear anything else, anything constructive, anything insightful. ZERO.

... I'm drunk and just arguing with my self. Take care :) and question EVERYTHING - that includes right wing news channels....
 
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Graphene Oxide is one of the hidden 40% ingredients in the vaccine. Explain that
not going to bother opening a wordpress site.

but i'm really interested, what, exactly, do you think graphene oxide is?

and why do you think they would put it in a vaccine? its just an easily functionalisable material which makes it interested in terms of potential for drug delivery but there are pros and cons to it. its toxic to work with if you might inhale it. it might be great for some cancer threapies, but you gotta be careful because it has been shown to promote the epithelial to mesenchymal transition in others (cancers of epithelial cells obviously).

the only person i've seen claim that graphene oxide is in the covid vaccines probably couldn't even name a piece of apparatus used to verify that, let alone have access to it or known how to analyse the data it produces, cos its expensive kit and not really required by naturopaths and other quacks.

is it just cos its a new material that its the devil? or do you have some data specifically regarding injection into a muscle causing issues?

i don't think its that great, we know it causes scarring upon inhalation, in my old lab we had to cancel a study cos mice were dying with it following IV injection, but we also saw it destroy chemo-resistant cancer that cannot be resected, so its swings and roundabouts.
 
so the antibody levels drop off. they also drop off after awhile from covid, i'll take mine every six months to ensure i'm taking steps to be there for my kids.

no thanks to viral roullette.
 
lol so what about the flu vaccine racket? hmm....

flu vaccine is also a conspiracy? you need one 1-2x per year, and they've been doing it for DECADES... omg.... did they already mind control all of us? WHAT ABOUT THE FLU VACCINE?!?!?!?!


jesus fucking christ I feel like you argue with flight attendants when they tell you to keep your seat belt buckled on an airplane and scream about your liberty being violated

it's actually a really childish whiny perspective to be THIS LEVEL antagonistic towards BASIC ASS HEALTH ADVICE

tell me, what other things that the government tells you to do that you choose not to do? I'm genuinely curious. What other infringements on your freedoms to you experience? (I'm not joking, please answer, I'm curious)

hey simma down

why ya gotta yell at me?


no i just don't think the flu vaccine does anything...it's a placebo - like the covid vaccine! same same
 
hey simma down

why ya gotta yell at me?
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no i just don't think the flu vaccine does anything...it's a placebo - like the covid vaccine! same same

I think vegetables taste bad, but eventually I grew up, did some research and concluded they are actually good for me. At the time, when I was 8 years old, all my friends told me vegetables were bad. I believed them at the time. Then I looked at hard science and concluded that they were actually healthy. The media kept telling me "vegetables are healthy" but I didn't believe their lies. They probably just wanted to sell me vegetables. What a scam. The vegetable company monetizes their product and is also not liable for various things. Wow.

I don't know how to frame this without sounding aggressive, but if you think the flu vaccine is placebo then... well... *insert insult*
 
i told ya already tho right?

i got the flu shot twice and both times i caught the flu

so that was that....and then i caught the flu once after that in 12 years without the shot
 
wanna know the whole story?
I mean just being real, I've already got a biased assumption which makes any story about getting sick after a flu vaccine (which is kinda how it works, there are hundreds of variants of the flu virus and the seasonal flu vaccine is sort of a "best guess" type of thing as to which variant will be dominant that season) a moot point in my eyes (and in science's eyes).

flu vaccines are like weather prediction, they aren't always exactly right - but if the prediction wasn't made thousands more people would get sick than if there was no prediction at all.

this ain't rocket science... oh wait I forgot, you don't trust in science anyways, nevermind.
 
I mean just being real, I've already got a biased assumption which makes any story about getting sick after a flu vaccine (which is kinda how it works, there are hundreds of variants of the flu virus and the seasonal flu vaccine is sort of a "best guess" type of thing as to which variant will be dominant that season) a moot point in my eyes (and in science's eyes).

flu vaccines are like weather prediction, they aren't always exactly right - but if the prediction wasn't made thousands more people would get sick than if there was no prediction at all.

this ain't rocket science... oh wait I forgot, you don't trust in science anyways, nevermind.

Ok....trying to predict whether you're even gonna catch the flu to begin with might be a reason for you to get a shot or not

its not easy trying to convince a healthy person to take some medicine when they aren't sick and depending what they're up against

there's a lot of variables

like variants

right?
 
its not easy trying to convince a healthy person to take some medicine when they aren't sick and depending what they're up against
No it's not. Look at polio for example. Everyone was RUSHING to get a vaccine... then we virtually eradicated the disease... because of vaccination.

If covid gave you pocks and made you paralyzed I guarantee you that the right would get vaccinated and not say anything.

It's sad how a MEDICAL PUBLIC HEALTH DISEASE has turned into a political issue. Democrats don't wan't to take away your freedom, they just want everyone to be SAFE.

there's a lot of variables

like variants

right?
you can come up with 1000 reasons to have "doubt"

the cold, COLD hard fucking facts are that covid poses much more of a risk to you, those around you, and humanity as a whole compared to the nearly non existent dangers of a free vaccine. COLD hard facts.

at this point you're just choosing to follow your anti-vax cult beyond ALL EVIDENCE, follow youtube videos and shit, rather than follow the majority of people and common sense, all while completely disregarding science

Trump turned people against the media, then he turned people against science, all for his own political gain. Why can't you realize this? The media and science aren't perfect but that's no reason to completely discount them from the truth.

Please just reconsider. I'm not asking you to get vaccinated, but please stop believing the vaccine is more dangerous than covid itself because it simply is not.

If you truly don't want to be vaccinated I respect that, however don't refuse for reasons that are illogical or downright wrong/misinformed. That's all I ask.

I don't want you to get sick man :(
 
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