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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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guarantee it's levels of magnitude better than what the virus will give you...

what's this about you not wanting t- cells? you don't want your immune system to work properly?
This is just one case, it's across the board sadly.

Patients affected by lymphoid malignancies (LM) are frequently immune-compromised, suffering increased mortality from COVID-19. This prospective study evaluated serological and T-cell responses after complete mRNA vaccination in 263 patients affected by chronic lymphocytic leukaemia, B- and T-cell lymphomas and multiple myeloma. Results were compared with those of 167 healthy subjects matched for age and sex. Overall, patient seroconversion rate was 64·6%: serological response was lower in those receiving anti-cancer treatments in the 12 months before vaccination: 55% vs 81·9% (P < 0·001). Anti-CD20 antibody plus chemotherapy treatment was associated with the lowest seroconversion rate: 17·6% vs. 71·2% (P < 0·001). In the multivariate analysis conducted in the subgroup of patients on active treatment, independent predictors for seroconversion were: anti-CD20 treatment (P < 0·001), aggressive B-cell lymphoma diagnosis (P = 0·002), and immunoglobulin M levels <40 mg/dl (P = 0·030). The T-cell response was evaluated in 99 patients and detected in 85 of them (86%). Of note, 74% of seronegative patients had a T-cell response, but both cellular and humoral responses were absent in 13·1% of cases. Our findings raise some concerns about the protection that patients with LM, particularly those receiving anti-CD20 antibodies, may gain from vaccination. These patients should strictly maintain all the protective measures.
 
I'm a "anti-vaxxer conspiracy bone headed nut case" lol.

Sorry friend. Your hysterics are lost on me. I'm nothing like that. My 2nd dose is due tomorrow. Moderna or some such thing. I honestly couldn't care less one way or the other.
We got the vaccination, but I'm still a wanker and you're all still a bunch of tossers...there's no cure for that. Might as well relax. Be calm.
Actually I would like to dispute that. I'm definitely a twat. But never or very rarely an actual tosser I don't feel.

And I know things get heated in these places and everywhere but it's not like nobody cares.

A lot of people don't care but some people do however they seem.

I'm not saying that because I felt you were referring specifically to me, the terms and their meanings just struck me and some feelings on it.
 
A family member is sick @nepalnt21 with something very close to that after his 2nd jab. I'm not going into detail as it's private but I will say a man who is terminally ill was ok till he got jabbed, now his bloods are all over the place & his cancer team have no idea what's caused it.
 
How do you know what exactly is possible or not?

that goes both ways. how do you?

discussion in here often derails quickly - a lot of people like to tell others, with whom they disagree, that they are sheep, etc.

i think cep&s would be a more interesting place if people didn't do that but, sadly, a small number of posters just keep doing it so it is what it is.

i also think the forum would be improved if people held themselves to the same standards they hold others. that would be a great start too.

$0.02

alasdair
 
Nope. I assure you not funny and not threatening. Not my style. Never has been. Just heard and seen far too many interviews with people who regret NOT having being vaccinated and wishing like fuck that they had. And again: this survival rate thing? It's meaningless. Doesn't matter. If the only thing the vaccines accomplish is to keep people out of ICU then they've done their job and that's all they were designed for. Nothing more.

Oops. You caught me out. Fucking right. Although fascist is a terrible term no? Authoritarian far more flattering no?

You've 'seen far too many interviews'. What, like two dozen media stories? Pfft. Give me a break. It's called propaganda, and coercion, to get you to take the jabs. If you take those stories at face value as truth then you're a fool. Do you know anything about the persons health history? No. So what proof do you have that any of those people were actually healthy - some of the ones I've seen they look like your typical fat, pasty, average citizen who only gets an elevated heart rate each day when they take a shit in the morning.

Forcing people to take a drug or medical procedure against their will is fascism. There is no wiggle room on that at all. Yes it's a terrible term, and yes you are a terrible person if you're in support of negating bodily sovereignty. Evil in fact. It shows a complete lack of morality, empathy, and just basic logic quite frankly.. it also makes one wonder whether there is actually anything more than just a base level of awareness inside that bag of flesh too. I'd go so far as to call anyone in that category anti-human, because they clearly don't understand much about themselves or other people.
 
I've always been suspicious of that fucking clown.

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I've always been suspicious of that fucking clown.

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Yeah man, FUUUCK. It's "IT", isn't it??

In Plain Bloody Sight!

Just thibk, seriously, decades back now, the millons who went for a bite at Ronald Mcdonald's place after watching Steven King grand premier!

I never saw that before.

Edit. I changed it cos wasn't sure before if it was Steven King, not Spielberg.
 
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follow malone and zelenko all you like, they are charlatans. having done good quality work in the past doesn't make you the lasting authority.

And you gonna follow Fauchi who lied over & over about gain-of function, he worked with the main Covid gain-of function woman in China with the nickname Bat Woman & also headed a meeting with leading bio & nano technology groups where they brag their research is being done now in people.

Also the Pfizer meeting I posted where they say openly the have no idea what mRNA will do long term & I've posted that on her twice now.

You go listen to them and have fun.
 
You know top of my head, I bet over 85% of my posts minimum are independent.

Not replies, quotes, reactions, counter arguments, only or the ratio the other way.

I stay out of people's way really, but I hardly appreciate what often feels like childish persecution.
 
I'm a "anti-vaxxer conspiracy bone headed nut case" lol.

Sorry friend. Your hysterics are lost on me. I'm nothing like that. My 2nd dose is due tomorrow. Moderna or some such thing. I honestly couldn't care less one way or the other.
We got the vaccination, but I'm still a wanker and you're all still a bunch of tossers...there's no cure for that. Might as well relax. Be calm.

yeah whatever mate, piss off, be healthy, happy and have a merry christmas

wanker!

>:)
 
'But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects."

So in all those years it couldn't be made safe yet in a few months all these private bio-tech companies cracked it you say?...........

Yeah right oooowwwkkkaayyy
 
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