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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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cant believe i got played by big pharma the plandemic and the NWO. I thought i was pretty woke but i had so much faith in science that these vaccines would acutally save us lol i was fucking wrong
 
birdup said:
I call bullshit.
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i don't necessarily disbelieve him though it seems certain posters in this thread are ignoring the stimulant abuse and family history as it doesn't fit their narrative... its awful though i've had times when the reason my heart was still beating was a medical mystery (thanks anorexia!!) and its really scary so i hope he's ok.

what does confuse me is why he got the vaccine? in this very thread, months ago now and i'm supposed to have started work so i'm not digging out, he was saying he wouldn't get the vaccine because he 'knows chemistry'- he never specified what that had to do with refusing a vaccine. i don't think the state of chemistry (or more relevant sciences such as immunology and vaccinology) has changed significantly enough in this time to make such a large 180.

its amazing how many doctors are telling people things that 'they would get sacked if they told people.' and these people are exactly the ones with an antivax agenda....
 
I'm not going to accuse someone of lying when I don't know. I will say that leading up to this he was making comments that adderall was helping him become a better person and drug/stimulant abuse certainly is a factor in heart problems. Then again, I know some people are experiencing heart problems (generally temporary) from the vaccine. As for my lived experience, most everyone I know in real life has been vaccinated, some have even had the booster, and none of us have experienced any serious side effects at all, and no one I know has told me any stories about anyone they know personally experiencing any side effects beyond some dizziness or flu-like symptoms that cleared up. The only people I have seen share stories of serious aide effects are people online that have been railing against the vaccine from day 1. Someone on here was saying that "half the people they know who got it" are dead or dying. I dunno, either some people are lying in order to try to convince others of a position they feel strongly about, or there are bad batches affecting certain areas and not others. And I know I'm not lying. So it makes me question extraordinary claims. Again I'm not accusing you on lying, TripSitter, I'm speaking generally here. I realize severe side effects do happen with some people but the claims of very high incidence of severe side effects do not add up to the lived experiences of me or anyone I know in real life. So the obvious conclusion to draw is that a lot of people are either believing propaganda (when they appeal to data) or outright lying (when they share personal anecdotes that go beyond a single isolated example - like krinkle has long been saying he has a single friend who experienced severe side effects, which is easily believable. People saying they know various people, not so much). The other feasible possibility is, as I said, bad batches that affect specific localities disproportionately, which have not affected any of the areas that people I know personally are in.
 
chinup said:
i don't necessarily disbelieve him though it seems certain posters in this thread are ignoring the stimulant abuse and family history as it doesn't fit their narrative... its awful though i've had times when the reason my heart was still beating was a medical mystery (thanks anorexia!!) and its really scary so i hope he's ok.

what does confuse me is why he got the vaccine? in this very thread, months ago now and i'm supposed to have started work so i'm not digging out, he was saying he wouldn't get the vaccine because he 'knows chemistry'- he never specified what that had to do with refusing a vaccine. i don't think the state of chemistry (or more relevant sciences such as immunology and vaccinology) has changed significantly enough in this time to make such a large 180.

its amazing how many doctors are telling people things that 'they would get sacked if they told people.' and these people are exactly the ones with an antivax agenda....
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I got the vax because its been mandated. You will no longer be able to even buy food in nz without a vaccine its next level mandates here
 
we're gonna need to see some paperwork on this heart attack, Trippy


i've been to the hospital twice in my career for a heart attack, only to walk out with paperwork about costochondritis


im left handed too so my left side takes the most abuse


someday im gonna have a heart attack and think it's just costochondritis
 
RomanJ said:
Even though I am all for people taking care of they're health and getting the vaccine, I think it's dead wrong what the government are doing with NHS staff and forcing them to have the vaccine.
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The majority of the population don't want frontline healthcare workers to be unvaccinated which is fair enough, isn't it? The majority of frontline healthcare workers also want their co-workers to be vaccinated... It seems like your attitude (not you specifically @RomanJ) is: a very small minority should call the shots? That's not a democracy.

You can always move to another country or work in another profession.

Nobody is forcing needles into anyone in America or Australia or the UK.

If you want to quit your job because you can't go to work without wearing shoes, I'm not terribly sympathetic. Just put on some fucking shoes... and, while you're at it, go get your jab and stop being a pussy. ;)
 
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