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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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JGrimez said:
Because powerful people never meet together and make plans to increase their power. That's just insane psycho-babble that never happens, EVER.
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Of course that happens, I was just being an ass, but referring to the tendency of some people to automatically believe with strong confirmation bias that anything and everything is part of a plot by evil people against the rest of us, when in fact some things have less exciting and mysterious reasons.
 
Xorkoth said:
Of course that happens, I was just being an ass, but referring to the tendency of some people to automatically believe with strong confirmation bias that anything and everything is part of a plot by evil people against the rest of us, when in fact some things have less exciting and mysterious reasons.
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I find this generally to be projection from the other side i.e confirmation bias strongly dissuading people from looking into the agendas and plans behind certain movements and just attempting to explain away all the BS that happens to them with "oh well I guess shit just randomly happens!"
 
So none of you anti-vaxxers have any explanation for the situation in NSW? Clearly, the vaccines work and herd immunity is achieved somewhere near the 90% mark.

To give you some more context, Australia has had less than 0.7% of the population test positive for the virus. If we assume a certain number of asymptomatic cases that weren't alerted from contact tracing, maybe (it's unlikely, but what the hey) the cases are as high as 2%... That's more than generous... So, let's assume 2% have natural immunity. Around 90% of the population is vaccinated. The virus is dying. They peaked at around 1,500 cases per day and plateaued there for a couple of weeks. This was the highest numbers NSW has seen, which is to be expected when finally coming out of lockdown with delta in the community.

The case numbers in NSW are now less than 200/day.
There is no room for the virus to exist here.
 
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Here's what the Queensland Government is reporting on their health site:

"Due to the large number of adverse events being reported throughout Queensland we are unable to routinely contact every reporter individually. Someone from the Public Health Unit in your area may contact you or your health provider if they require more information for reporting and surveillance purposes. If you have any concerns about ongoing symptoms or future vaccinations, please speak to your GP or Healthcare provider."

Scroll down to 'Reporting Symptoms'

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/condi...lf-others/covid-19-vaccine/about/side-effects
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@birdup looks like there's no more room for the large amount of vaccine induced adverse events either in your country
 



look how twisted this fuck is....

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'We're never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it'​


yea let me get my kid down to the vaxx shack asap
 
birdup said:
So none of you anti-vaxxers have any explanation for the situation in NSW? Clearly, the vaccines work and herd immunity is achieved somewhere near the 90% mark.
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If you've received the covid vaccine but believe people should have a choice to take it then you are by definition an anti-vaxxer.

Also someone can support the concept of inoculation yet still expose Big Pharma corruption. Just because they produce a "vaccine" doesn't mean that it is as effective as what they claim, or that it's not contaminated etc. If I don't want poison in my food that doesn't make "anti-food".

As for the effectiveness of the vaccine, I remember when they said it was close to 100% and now it could be below 20%.
It's easy to bring up NSW but why not bring up Israel? They promised their population that 2 shots would get them back to normal. Then the vast majority of the 8 million people there got 2 shots and they started getting more cases and more deaths than the year previously. Now "fully vaccinated" doesn't mean 2 shots anymore, you need a 3rd shot (and they're already discussing the 4th).

Another study out of Israel showed that natural immunity is more effective than the vaccine. Although I think according to some media sources, "natural immunity" (while being a scientific truth pre-2020) is now considered "mythical" - and the vaccines are the only answer (how amazingly fortuitous for the manufacturers).

But something that I've seen in at least 2 people that I know - is their behavior significantly changing after receiving the vaccine. Has anyone else seen this?
And does anyone know anyone personally who has experienced a serious side effect due to the vaccine?
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
yea let me get my kid down to the vaxx shack asap
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I remember when the idea of vaccine mandates were considered crazy talk conspiracy theory.
Then the vaccines came out for the elderly/immune-compromised. The thought of giving them to children then was crazy talk.
Now you can't work at your job and they're talking about vaccinating all the 5-year olds.
Soon it'll be newborns.

For a virus that doesn't hurt children

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Is it though? Is it "normal" to die? Was it always this way? Or did something happen somehow, sometime, a hack, bringing us our mortal conditions?

Which are only temporary. And everything is normal anyway, it's such a relative and semantical concept with a lot of contextual flex.

Like I have never been "normal". In more than one way lol. None ifvthem are "bad", some are purely positive.

Other times "you're not normal" a co-worker may say for example, meaning something else specifically lol.

If simply being dead was officially regarded as "normal" then I will be normal one day.

But I am normal anyway. People have a warped imaginary concept of what normal means at it's route.

I can think of maybe a dozen or more words, concepts, themes, where normal is used as a blanket.

What does normal actually really truthfully mean? I ask myself. Because on the face of it it appears so meaningless and unreal. It's fabricatd, conjured, and imaginary.

But then it is a concept I see now- "back to normality" is perfectly fitting after I come down from some serious tripping. But I know exactly what I mean in that thought.

It has real obvious meaning and application. It's just so heavily misused as a cliche with no real meaning or context too often IMO.
 
So nobody has an explanation?

@JGrimez

I hear what you're saying. I wasn't really posting that for you. Numerous posters around here have said the vaccine doesn't work. NSW is evidence that it works.

So, can we agree that the vaccines work?

Or does someone have a sensible explanation for NSW.

I'm not defending the Israeli government. This has nothing to do with promises made by Israel. I'm examining (based on evidence) whether or not the vaccine is working in NSW. Something is working. If not the vaccine, what is this mysterious force that's preventing transmission and preventing hospitalization?

@Mr. Krinkle

I'm not defending vaccine mandates or suggesting that there are a relatively low number of adverse reactions. I'm doing something specific here. Don't go off on a tangent. See if you can actually respond with an explanation.

Can you explain NSW?
Yes or no?
 
birdup said:
So nobody has an explanation?


@Mr. Krinkle

I'm not defending vaccine mandates or suggesting that there are a relatively low number of adverse reactions. I'm doing something specific here. Don't go off on a tangent. See if you can actually respond with an explanation.

Can you explain NSW?
Yes or no?
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what am i supposed to explain now? NSW has a low amount of positive cases than before the shots? is that it? start from the beginning and then i'll show you how you're just being fooled into believing that they're really working
 
bird did you know your country is a lab experiment?

because you guys are all the way down there cut off from everybody else....so that's why you have to have full compliance down there or it's curtains for you
 
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Australia has had less than 0.7% of the population test positive for the virus. If we assume a certain number of asymptomatic cases that weren't alerted from contact tracing, maybe (it's unlikely, but what the hey) the cases are as high as 2%... That's more than generous... So, let's assume 2% have natural immunity. Around 90% of the population is vaccinated. The virus is dying. They peaked at around 1,500 cases per day and plateaued there for a couple of weeks. This was the highest numbers NSW has seen, which is to be expected when finally coming out of lockdown with delta in the community.

The case numbers in NSW are now less than 200/day.
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well so far it's been going in waves....so as of right now, i would say let's revisit this every couple months to see how it's still going
 
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