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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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birdup said:
If you consume 400mcg of acid and make as much sense as you do, I wouldn't be concerned about brain damage.

Wizard was being a dick.
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Thanks. I am aware. Literally but figuratively here.

I am no target for a bully. And I will never stand by and watch bullying either.

Some people are just bullies and completely full of themselves this is a general statement and it's also a fact for which I'm not going to produce evidence this morning lol! 🙂

Now just imagine if our imaginations could only consider possibilities which have already been reported and recorded in history!

Because this is apparently what the sound minded, Intellectually superior rational thinking man is positing here.

Sense does come and go, because it isn't fixed. It's a flowing process.

Nonsense is fixed. I do appreciate you. I know I'm always opposing. It's such a shame it has to be that way imagine a world without this.
 
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The Wizard of the Creek said:
You’re right, I absolutely don’t believe you at all, but that doesn’t give me the right to patronize you. So I went ahead and deleted that post, but I’m glad you read it. I don’t believe anything you post here, and know that you have hooked people into bad faith arguments where at the end of it you say, “well let’s agree to disagree”, but even though your argument was super confusing and ultra right wing neo-nazi propaganda. You can get just fool people into agreeing to disagree with some extreme white supremacist taking points just because you are polite.
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Polite is a misinterpreted term I am mature and I use language mostly correctly, as meaningfully as I can to express myself I also use it very cuttingly as well.

Don't ever be suggesting that I am being deliberately polite in order to soften or neutralise any reaction or retaliation that again is a mistake in perception and a lack of comprehension.
I don't mean that you are suggesting that but it's also not in around about manner either I'm just natural.

That is both superficial and cowardly I am neither.

As for the big problem in my life of you not believing anything I say I don't have a solution for that at the moment. 🙄
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
He refers to white supremacists talking points all of time here and uses that flawed logic to justify some of those beliefs (sometimes using sources that are authored by well known white supremacists). I highly doubt that he is ignorant of that fact. I’ll point it out again when he undoubtedly points those references again. It’s not that hard to find those either, because he posts those types of articles all of the time. It just pissed me off when he posted a doctored video making fun of Biden’s stuttering. The source of that video came from well known white supremacists to discredit Biden’s mental health and to make people laugh at him. Coming from someone else that suffers from debilitating tics that I sometimes can’t control, really pissed me off for obvious reasons.
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Again it's just a miscomprehension entirely on your part I did we did discuss that that day he is telling lies essentially if he was telling the pure truth we would see a very different picture and I would not mock a single action or word.

Biden lacks adequate memory to be a convincing enough liar. Plain.

That is my objection to the man- Both the fact that he is lying through his teeth and also what he is lying about more importantly.

Actually I think it was just convenient for you to solidify your outright rejection of me.

A logical consideration I had anyway.

I explained to you as well how I overcame a crippling speech impairment which took me years and was complicated heavily by Lyme disease and severe allergies in 2005 but was already in motion from 2003 after heavy prolonged MDMA abuse led to an induced state of neurosis.

I worked extremely hard to overcome this it took me years.

I do not take the piss out of people because they have a disability FFS. So it's another criticism you are ladling at me which is actually completely unfounded based on incomprehension.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
It just pissed me off when he posted a doctored video making fun of Biden’s stuttering
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Fuck Biden in his stuttering face.

How can you be so outraged by @AutoTripper posting a video when you're telling him that he's a liar and brain damaged and that he's making up (or at least exaggerating) his own medical condition?

And what about Trump?

Where were you when everybody took turns to shit on him and his family?
 
He doesn't actually stutter though that's the thing he hesitates.

The stutter is the inevitable consequence of being so censored.

I overcame my own stutter. It was way worse than Biden's. It's cured 100% now.

But I didn't achieve that by censoring myself. It's the entire opposite actually.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
If that’s true than you should be ashamed of yourself for posting an obviously doctored video of Biden editing it so that it looked like his stutter was dementia and Biden just escaped from the Alzheimer’s ward. You laughed at that and posted it as if you believe it was real footage on the Biden thread. First of all that little doctored clip was made by a well known white supremacist, and it wasn’t the first time you posted shit from the white supremacist news feed you undoubtedly read a lot, enough so to continually post that propaganda on BL to make a point.
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I don't like Carl Vernon personally I don't agree with his vibe he is an intelligent man though intellectually and I don't doubt that he cares about the world and wants a better one and I'm not saying that I am identified or aligned with him either.

Doesn't mean we can't share views.

The clip itself was completely irrelevant anyway. There are hundreds of legitimate clips if I was into video editing I could make my own video and it would probably be 50 minutes long and you wouldn't be able to say it wasn't genuine.

It would be a bloody waste of time now to make a point that doesn't even need making and I cannot believe can be so misinterpreted and built up so much.
 
I'm not ashamed because I did not do anything intentionally or inadvertently to feel ashamed of there. I've explained where I was coming from I did on the day we already had this exact discussion if you could find the posts check my words you will find they have slipped out naturally in prose each time but the stories will be tightly aligned always.

When I am ashamed I admit feeling sorry without shame because that is the responsible and mature thing to do.

I don't need other people telling me what I should feel ashamed about because I actually trust myself and my own perceptions and intellect more than I trust the next person necessarily but it's a case by case thing.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
If that’s true than you should be ashamed of yourself for posting an obviously doctored video of Biden editing it so that it looked like his stutter was dementia and Biden just escaped from the Alzheimer’s ward. You laughed at that and posted it as if you believe it was real footage on the Biden thread. First of all that little doctored clip was made by a well known white supremacist, and it wasn’t the first time you posted shit from the white supremacist news feed you undoubtedly read a lot, enough so to continually post that propaganda on BL to make a point.
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I don't read a news feed. I hate news. I avoid it.

I focus on hobbies and interests for the most part and distraction as a coping mechanism.

I actually have self distractive tendancies too.
 
You should stop, wizard.

People with and without disabilities deserve respect. Same for black/white and gay/straight. You cant have different standards for different people. I'm not defending trump.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
If that’s true where on earth are you getting all of this alt right shit from? You have to be getting it from somewhere because no one would come to believe such extreme alt right anti-vax propaganda all by themselves. That type of belief system is a cult of personality type thing. Does it come from your mom with whom you chose to spend your life with?
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I forgot to check back here. But I can't provide a fair, easy or adequate answer to that fair question.

My mum does not instill beliefs into me. I believe that I do. I don't know the details the devil is in the details I froze never more appropriate then currently I don't know what the grand plan is and the scheme of things and I'm willing to admit when I am mistaken I wish I was wrong and I hope to be about this particular subject I've stopped actually talking about it in debate I'm just talking generally now about my own life and the world as I see it I'm not trying to tell people do this or don't do this and I never actually have as well.

I don't know how I can answer this question his deep he goes back a whole lifetime not just reinforced by media I didn't even start using the Internet until I was 25 and that was when my life appeared to go down the drain in one sense with the onset of lime but really it was an educational gift because it took me away from the path of not really learning that I was otherwise on.

It forced me to dig and search and question and query and look for answers. I'm still looking for answers but I've got ideas and theories and views which are much more based down they appear not just something which has been impregnated into me sadly without my awareness as such or ability to consider and reflect on this or something which has occurred recently or overnight either.

It's in this light that I make the joke and it is a joke by the way about the button clicks not applying to me in the same full manner as they can do I recognise we are all influence and targeted with Miss information from both those points are valid.

Now, I'm a hothead at times. I do things I regret in the moment and if I feel that I will say so.

I'm taking a breather now and considering that I have been unnecessarily retaliational. I don't retract or regret any particular points I have made today.

But then a part of me thinks is this person who I have argued with wherever actually not a bad soul in any way in which case it's my bad still but sometimes it feels like things need to be said.
 
birdup said:
Maybe I am blind to the pro-vax propaganda. That's probably because I don't read the news. That's not entirely true, actually. I do read articles, but (if anything strikes me as interesting) I don't assume at face value that it's accurate. I do the opposite. I assume it is false. Then I check the data. I don't discriminate. I watch Louder with Crowder and read Al Jazeera. Everything is bullshit.

The data is clear. All the regulars around here have had more than enough time to produce a sensible anti-vax argument.

Whether or not some capitalist swine lied about the efficacy of their vaccine is irrelevant. The facts are more relevant than what anyone says. We can see the effect of the vaccines. This international rollout is an experiment with literally billions of participants. We know the vaccines work.

If you look at the numbers honestly, you can see the truth as plainly as a cloud in the sky.
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Al jazeera has some decent stuff. It keeps getting censored off yt, but they have an excellent docuseries where the follow the Israel lobby and highlight their majorly subversive tactics, and manipulations.
 
AutoTripper said:
He doesn't actually stutter though that's the thing he hesitates.

The stutter is the inevitable consequence of being so censored.

I overcame my own stutter. It was way worse than Biden's. It's cured 100% now.

But I didn't achieve that by censoring myself. It's the entire opposite actually.
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It’s not a stutter from childhood, it’s due to the stage of dementia he’s at, and the effects of the treatments he’s on. He really
Lost it for a moment at that CNN town hall event. Looks like he may have pooped himself at one point too. You could tell Anderson cooper was very uncomfortable.
 
Dropperneck said:
It’s not a stutter from childhood, it’s due to the stage of dementia he’s at, and the effects of the treatments he’s on. He really
Lost it for a moment at that CNN town hall event. Looks like he may have pooped himself at one point too. You could tell Anderson cooper was very uncomfortable.
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I really never tried to insinuate mockery about a stutter as such nor the dementia specifically I'm actually pretty compassionate generally but in his case he does not have the mental capacity to remember what he is supposed to say or not supposed to say and has said beforehand so he is permanently having to think every word that comes out of his lips and try not to say something too close to the truth that's what I object to and it is that which above all else makes his limited cognitive and memory condition which I'm not mocking itself, well exacerbated.

A lot of the time when he is struggling and hesitating and backtracking and stuttering and not making sense it's because he realises he's not keeping to script who is in danger of slipping up they're probably people shouting in his here the whole time as well it's a lot of pressure to be under even if he feels like he has a free ride and nothing to lose now.

I would say I feel sorry for the man except I don't feel sorry for people I see as plotting against humanity basically.
 
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birdup said:
@Mr. Krinkle

Cut and paste isn't an argument. I can do that, too. You're either willing to have an honest discussion about it or not. You have a tendency to post a bunch of shit that other people have written and then spend very little time explaining why you think it is valid despite other BLers criticisms.

The problem - mainly - with your posts, is: there is no context.

Nobody is arguing there aren't adverse reactions. Posting stuff about people dying from vaccines is anecdotal and irrelevant unless you contextualize it. How many people are dying? How many people would have died from the virus, had they not been vaccinated?

All you do recently, it seems, is post examples of adverse reactions.

I don't see your point.
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Bird...you told me to shut off the TV and don't watch and to clear my mind and follow the data

i show you the data i follow and you tell me all i do is copy and paste lol

if i wouldn't have copied and pasted that data, you would've told me to PROVE IT! like you do sometimes lol

i have made my own points - plenty of them....and then i comment on current events as they come about instead of beating the drum from the past

thats how i roll

:)
 
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