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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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On the topic of the vaccine it seems it has created almost the same amount of fanaticism as religeon.
 
If you can’t present your opinion without calling other people names (I can’t believe I have to type this), then don’t post.

I’ve been more than accommodating with this thread and I’m beginning to feel a lot less so.

No personal insults and take it down a notch.
 
I didn’t get the vax but I identify as a pro-vaxer, so calling me a anti vaxxer is a hate crime and a insult to my very existence, you should be locked up or at the very least fined a couple thousand dollars
 
Right. Few things clear. One- I ain't no fearmongerer. Just saying in advance.

Nor in any slight whishful or convenient way looking to confirm bias on this topic especially.

It's the absolute far opposite. I want to look at the horror film and see a happy trailer.

It is in fact ofc and very understandably the people who have complied, I'll put it like that, who I do NOT want to frighten, mislead, or see any harm or pain come to at all, on any level.

My comments are indeed the most unusual here arguably, and not popular with all every time as we have such radically different belief systems.

We are all gullible. It's the only way to form belief systems vital for living. Beliefs are all we have. Even when we believe we have empirical evidence.

As evidence can be a plain illusion.

So I won't deny being gullible. I'm open minded.

I have also I argue not actually tried to put fear itself into anybody.

I talk about things openly.

I have not tried to make people afraid of the (not) vax. Or regret it, worry.

I speak from my own position. I have presented it this way pretty consistently.

I also am guilty actually, of downplaying individual's personal fears of Covid.

Which on reflection was wrong now in a way. Well no because I still don't encourage fear.

But I respect Covid. And anybody's concerns over contractng it. Do I think jabs are the answer?

Hell no. I ain't changing there. I have not stopped mentally musing how to go about this from the off. Managing my own actually very severe year long personal case.

Helping others with symptoms, support.

Now, show me "proof" like a nice little video saying everything is alright, bells and whistles. Make it convincing. I'll be cautious but not becaue any part of me doesn't WANT to believe.

It's the opposite again.

The balance is however much shifted the other way round.

Like boarding the Titanic and not wanting or being able to contemplate the Gipsy's prediction on the top deck.

That is confirmation bias.

Now, unless the MSM or Government actually comes out now and says, what this says below as an example, it is dismissed with (feelings of) aggression.

Not violently opposed, which the truth commonly has been though history until it becomes too evident to deny.

Nothing is nearly evident enough yet. A video was sent to me yesterday.

I delayed sharing here for the reaons above. I don't want to instill fear. I am believe it also quite sensitive just too damn gobby for my own good lol.

And I was somethere near Saturn too. I had caused enough stir here already. My nerves needed a retreat too.

But I have to share this. Again, I am damn sure we could put a poll up- Jabbed or not? propaganfda or...?

My money would be on over 90% of already jabbed, or close ones who have, outright rejecting this. It scares me.

I do NOT want t believe it.

I didn't enjoy watching this yesterday where I (still am tbf) was.

In my mind, I've been telling myself (because I actually really care anoiut everybody. I know lots of people already "treated" is actually, the word!

Telling myself it's okay, it will be alright. It's maybe a worse dream than it seems. Lying to myself. The opposite of confirmation bias.

I'm longing for that uncomfrmation.

That is my position.

I am ready to receive understandable distaste and rejection. I doubt scorn because I don't really deserve or invite it, aside a difference of opinion and belief.

I resisted all day yesterday as I wasn't in my body.

I've slept now. My astral chords are still way wa out there. But I have a duty to myself.

With that said, this is simply for your individual dissecting.

I have steeld myself. Well not exactly but this will do. So don't worry about lettng your own emotions speak.

I won't take it personally. And please remember where I am coming from.

Because as much as every cell in my body does not want to consider, let alone believe any of this, I am not at all biased here, well okay my belief system biases me.

People who support this agenda, basically have a lot of (misplaced IMO) trust in the government.

I am the opposite.

And in this light and the overall one presented above, I feel my specific point about the jabbed community leaning subconsciously, largely now as a reality coping mechanism, towards being exceptionally prone to individual confirmation bias.

Without more ado, NOT for your viewing pleasure as much as I really wish it was (no pleasure in this for me at all), dissect!

Pretty elaborate too. For (propaganda fearmongering?) I'll let you decide what to believe, and think basically.

Gonna shower now. I get a bit nervous here at times because I hate going against the grain. I just follow my heart and gut and put principle before myself. (Don't be too mad at me basically)

Under 5 minutes.

 
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J & J scientist and employee saying don't take the jab. Not for my kid. Unknown consequences, too risky.

What's it about?

"Money, politics.."

"Numbers".

In first 90 seconds.



"In no capacity should we trust anything they say" (the Media)
 
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@AutoTripper

Statistically, I would expect some employees of J&J to be anti-vaxxers so I'm not sure if that's breaking news honestly.

Not sure why the J&J janitor and the J&J lunch lady's opinions trump those of impartial experts... Or how their opinions change data from all over the world?

People on the anti-vax side of the equation are treating this like archaeology. We aren't studying dinosaur fossils. The data is clear.
 
@AutoTripper

Statistically, I would expect some employees of J&J to be anti-vaxxers so I'm not sure if that's breaking news honestly.

Not sure why the J&J janitor and the J&J lunch lady's opinions trump those of impartial experts... Or how their opinions change data from all over the world?

People on the anti-vax side of the equation are treating this like archaeology. We aren't studying dinosaur fossils. The data is clear.
I don't see that. I am seeing an increasing number of people in my community suddenly hospitalised worth blood clots and other extreme symptoms following.

You could ask them or relatives "do you think it was the vaccine?"

Confirmation bias has backed people into a corner so that the only answer they dare conceive to give is "Naaah!"

This is going to be the theme here.

The govt will continue to shine flashy alleged data and claims through the media. Pump it up, pump it out.

I see no evidence the jab is working safely as it should.

We need to go door to door ourselves around the world and get the real, actual data.

We are dealing with the most cunning trickery, deception and bewitchment of the mind by the most evil people and corporations.

They have REALLY done a number on people here.

No janitors. No female J&J Employees here though?

She is the journalist. No janitors. Scientists.
 
saying you should trust nothing the media says is as moronic as saying you should trust everything the media says.

alasdair
That hardly contributes. It was colloquial obviously. Like the nedia says it's the 4th July, big show here, heavy rainfall in Minnesotta.
 
alasdairm said:
saying you should trust nothing the media says is as moronic as saying you should trust everything the media says.

I disagree.

Trusting everything is clearly much more moronic.

I don't trust media. I look at the data. I guess that makes me a moron?
 
IMO a moron is somebody who is fully or sufficiently aware of the actual true facts and permutations of a matter as well as the possible/likely/probable or guaranteed consequences of set actions, and then still makes moronic decisions.

Not well meaning citizens brainwashed since birth by governments.

I include myself there. They brainwashed me too. I just woke sharp up at at an early stage in life.

Bob Marley sings "Brainwash education, to make us the fools."

Bob was no moron. He wouldn't trust most of what the media says.

There needs to be some baby in the bath water obviously.
 
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