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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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  • About 3% of vaccinated people were hospitalized, .5% were in an ICU and .2% needed a ventilator.
  • Among the unvaccinated, nearly 8% were hospitalized, 1.5% were in an ICU and .5% were on a ventilator.

they left out the part that 3.8% vaccinated were admitted to the hospital

but i see this differently....

i see it as 98.5% unvaccinated didn't end up in the ICU with delta

so im still not seeing why i should gamble with the shots when my odds are still excellent of not ending up in the ICU

:shrug:
 
cduggles said:
This study is all over the news. However, protection from the vaccine is definitely waning.

More controversially, insurance companies want to limit coverage for unvaccinated individuals treated for COVID (which I see as a money grab), and hospitals want to prioritize vaccinated patients over unvaccinated for admission to the ICU if beds are highly limited, which they are in an alarming number of stares. Their reasoning is that they want to allocate those resources to those who are more likely to survive.

Unvaccinated 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19, CDC study says​



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Unvaccinated 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19, CDC study says

The two datasets out Tuesday add to the emerging evidence that protection from COVID-19 shots decreases over time.
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So now one life is more valuable than another cause they did what the government told them to do…you see how this is all downhill from here ?
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
  • About 3% of vaccinated people were hospitalized, .5% were in an ICU and .2% needed a ventilator.
  • Among the unvaccinated, nearly 8% were hospitalized, 1.5% were in an ICU and .5% were on a ventilator.

they left out the part that 3.8% vaccinated were admitted to the hospital

but i see this differently....

i see it as 98.5% unvaccinated didn't end up in the ICU with delta

so im still not seeing why i should gamble with the shots when my odds are still excellent of not ending up in the ICU

:shrug:
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Hmm 98.5 vs 99.5, let’s weight the risk reward here, 1% for the low price of trying a new technology vaccine that went through practically no trials before being unleashed on the public, I know there is a common sense answer but I can’t put my finger on it
 
“Aliens” arnt even physical beings, more like inter demential beings, they are consciousness, how do you think they can travel the distances required for universal travel…I don’t think they are hostile in any way, they are prolly beyond that barbaric way of life, if they are real that is ;)
 

Richmond-area ERs are seeing more non-COVID patients, and they're sicker now than when the pandemic started​


now pay attention here:


But now patients often have a higher acuity of illness, meaning they are generally sicker. At Henrico Doctors’ Hospital, low-acuity issues, such as ankle sprains or minor infections, made up 13% to 18% of emergency room visits before the pandemic. Now, they represent less than half that.

More ER patients are being admitted to Henrico Doctors’, a reflection of the seriousness of their illnesses. The percentage of ER patients admitted to the hospital increased 10% in 2020 and an additional 9% in 2021. The percentage of high-acuity issues, such as strokes and heart attacks, ballooned 9% this year.

A Bon Secours spokesperson said their facilities are seeing more sick patients, too. More ER patients are being admitted to their hospitals, and fewer people are showing up with low-acuity problems.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
and then you guys try to tell me it's just a coincidence when somebody has a stroke or heart attack 2 weeks after being vaxxed....and that's what they're telling everybody....just a coincidence - would've happened anyway
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Yes, its a coincidence. Something like 30% of people from developed countries die from cardiovascular disease, in a country where 60% of people are vaccinated against covid.. well you do the math.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
I am genuinely curious to why you are so heated about these vaccines? Just saying that vaccines are a new hellfire that they have released on us, and are sterilizing us, all isn’t good enough for me. You lose me when you say they are using a gene therapy as an “operating system” that the government has deployed on us to control us.

On that subject, My partner, who I love is an ancient alien theorist (big time). She tells me that it’s actually the aliens that introduced this virus to acclimate us and they are actively changing our genetics to suit their needs from us, and she says this isn’t the first time they have done this is in human history. What you are saying doesn’t really sound that much different than what she is saying about the aliens preparing to subjugate us. Maybe you are both right? I’m not saying that either of you are wrong, shit I’m just a small town country wizard, what the fuck do I know?

I was just wondering where all of your guidance about this vaccine came from? How are you able to be so certain about what is actually going on with this vaccine? How am I to believe you, or my partner? Both of you are making extraordinary claims about what’s really going on, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to back it up, otherwise what you guys are saying is just noise.

I’m not trying to invalidate your perspective at all, just like I don’t invalidate my partner understanding. I am genuinely curious to how you know what you know about these vaccines? Just saying that vaccines are a new hellfire that they have released on us that is sterilizing us, leaves me asking a lot more questions? I’m just trying to understand the conviction you both seem to have about this subject in particular. What evidence can you provide to make your case for all of this?

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I will respond to this tomorrow.
I’m tired. Need to sleep.

The short answer is I am heated about this issue because they are taking away our freedom.
They have lied and been caught in major lies and cover ups.
Bill Gates literally said he wants to depopulate the world and that a pandemic would be coming before the pandemic came.
I will have to find video’s tomorrow.
The elite’s of this world have a plan for depopulation and total control - a New World Order- Transhumanism.
There is evidence that they made COVID-19 in a lab in Wuhan, China and it is a bio weapon.
They all have stock in these pharmaceutical companies and are making tons of money off this pandemic.

Lots more. I worked for the government for over 15 years and it isn’t good.

Bottom line too is, why the rush to run out and get an experimental ”vaccine” that is not a vaccine by definition.
This is a new technology.
This is an EXPERIMENTAL technology being done on the human population that is signing right up for something we have no idea what is going to cause.
We have no idea of all the side effects and so far they have been deadly.
They work hard to cover that up.

Do some research.
Other Than the mainstream media.
Use COMMON SENSE.

Would you even know we were in a pandemic if they didn’t tell you that?

More tomorrow.
I am tired.
I certainly don’t want to be at odds or have any hard feelings with you good friends here.
We can all talk about things and make the best choice for ourselves as long as we still have the freedom to do so.

I love you.
Good Night
❤️
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
I and @ageingpartyfiend were talking about that a few pages ago... Pay attention
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Keep pushing. 🙂
Las Veghost grower said:
So now one life is more valuable than another cause they did what the government told them to do…you see how this is all downhill from here ?
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I was actually reading an article about medical ethics because some doctors want to stop treating unvaccinated patients. I’ll try and find it. Interesting stuff.
The Wizard of the Creek said:
It seems this has turned into a anti-vax thread now.
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Yes it seems like it has. But I think it’s just a loud minority.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
If you weren’t brainwashed than you would simply not get vaccinated and that would be the end of it. But you all have bought into a false narrative that nothing is what it appears, facts are not fact and what you think is up is really down. You all feel like you are good guys in all of this and therefore the saviors of humanity, and it seems like you all are on holy crusade against what you think is the biggest threat to individual freedom, the vaccine. Am I right?
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Good observation. Let me add though I would not be suprised if ANY of the conspiracies are true. I will state that. I just don't think there is meat on the sandwhich.

Let me give my very cosmic view of some things. (Total woo woo speculation) As humans walking the earth we intuitively know we are giant Free Spirits. Deep down we are. But when circumstances make a person feel tied down or not free then they need to point to something VERY BIG outside of themselves to justify feeling that way. I mean we all do it. Meanwhile nothing can touch your Spirit, not even the vaccine. lol And no outside force can control you.

I know some of you work in the medical field and I have chosen to trust you. I would never say you are part of a plot. Yes evil exists, but I would need to see the blueprint of the mass sterilization project. If it is organized we can tap into it and have proof. But I trust a lot of the work you all do. So when regular people work on a vaccine I have to trust they have my best interest in mind. It could be they don't, but I would have hoped for some more substancial proof of that.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
It seems this has turned into a anti-vax thread now.
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yea yea yea

you guys all say that when the momentum swings the other way.....there's been plenty of times in this thread where it's been purely pro-vax - so quit your whinin,,,,


i dont throw outlandish conspiracy theories out there - the only thing i have an issue with is that these shots do in fact cause health problems for some ppl - and it's a fact, that it gets covered up

we're also dealing with a story that keeps changing


i think you're brainwashed to believe the way out of this is by injecting yourselves with vaccines, and that's clearly not the answer, and you're seeing it play out in real-time, which a lot of you continue to ignore
 

Thousands of suspended Moderna jab doses used in Japan amid contamination fears​


Here’s the latest full story on Japan halting the use of 1.63m doses of Moderna’s Covid vaccine after reports of contamination in several vials.

AFP reports that the drugmaker Takeda, which is in charge of sales and distribution of the Moderna shot in Japan, said it had “received reports from several vaccination centres that foreign substances have been found inside unopened vials”.



GREAT! shit floating around in those bottles.....real cool
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
science got us into this mess, so science will get us out of it, right?
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I said elsewhere today, how I have personally seen and done things which no scientist could really discuss with me within the framework of "science".

Extra sensory perception, psychic experience, crystal visionary premonitions.

And what happens to our consciousness, where do we go, how does it feel or not, when we die?

"Science" does not have all the answers, a true grand understatement but so underappreciated IMO.

Another place altogether, I saw a question earlier... When will the twice poked start becoming second class citizens?

I replied "At the same time that "we" become 3rd class ones I imagine lol"
 

Pharma companies' liability 'modified' as boosters roll out without EMA approval, says EU​


EU countries that decide to administer booster shots may face increased legal risks because the additional dose has not yet been given emergency recommendation by the EU drugs regulator, the European Commission has said.

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) has repeatedly said that more data is needed before it can approve the use of boosters, but eight European countries have decided to recommend the additional dose, and more than a dozen are to make similar moves shortly.

It comes after World Health Organization director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, again said yesterday the data on the benefits and safety of a Covid-19 vaccine booster shot is inconclusive.

“Booster doses are currently not part of the marketing authorisation of Covid-19 vaccines and have not yet been subject to a scientific assessment by EMA in the absence of sufficient data,” the EU Commission said in a statement to Reuters.
 
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