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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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Edited my post replying to @Xorkoth 20 times, It is finished sorry guys! Have a super bad curse of talking too much, and being a know it with a lot of stuff when I don't mean to be... I used to be way smarter, before what brought me to blue light, slowed down my communication skills quite drastically. Takes me an hour to type one post.


Curious in the end to find out which Brand Pfizer or Moderna ends up being the most effective since they use different methods of activating the anti-body immune response, The Covid 19 Vaccines will probably change some of the other vans for say Flu or Typhoid, or dengue for the better! Be back tomorrow guys Bye!!!.
 
I woman I sort of know who was convinced that the vaccines were only happening in order to microchip us came to quite the conclusion recently and flipped and has now gotten the vaccine and is trying to convince her friends to get it too. She said that she thought about it some more, and realized that actually they must not be microchipping us. Her reason? "Think about it. It's a 2 dose vaccine, and it's taken from multi-dose vials. How would they be able to match up the second half of the chip, if it's coming from a multi-dose vial that is going into a bunch of different peoples' arms? We must have been wrong about the microchipping."

🤣 At least the result of this bizarre "logic" is a good thing.
 
I woman I sort of know who was convinced that the vaccines were only happening in order to microchip us came to quite the conclusion recently and flipped and has now gotten the vaccine and is trying to convince her friends to get it too. She said that she thought about it some more, and realized that actually they must not be microchipping us. Her reason? "Think about it. It's a 2 dose vaccine, and it's taken from multi-dose vials. How would they be able to match up the second half of the chip, if it's coming from a multi-dose vial that is going into a bunch of different peoples' arms? We must have been wrong about the microchipping."

🤣 At least the result of this bizarre "logic" is a good thing.

Pfizer and Moderna are certainly not “vaccines” by their definition. It annoys me that most people don’t understand what they are putting in their body.
 
I got the Astra Zeneca first shot on Tuesday. It’s a bit hard to know what the side effects were because I took a bunch of stimulants and acid the same day and the following day. But 4 days later I have a sniffle and a cough that may be lingering effects. I was also very tired for 2 days after the shot despite the stims.
 

Pfizer and Moderna are certainly not “vaccines” by their definition. It annoys me that most people don’t understand what they are putting in their body.

It stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies in the way that it normally does (reading the DNA/RNA of an invader to produce antibodies that attack it), but without introducing an actual pathogen. When people say that mRNA vaccines change your DNA, that is misleading at best. They don't have any effect on mitochondrial DNA.
 
It stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies in the way that it normally does (reading the DNA/RNA of an invader to produce antibodies that attack it), but without introducing an actual pathogen. When people say that mRNA vaccines change your DNA, that is misleading at best. They don't have any effect on mitochondrial DNA.
Completely agree.. but still not a “vaccine” by what the definition is. There are many, many unanswered questions around SARS-Cov 2 (like why can’t you all find the host). The new virus has 72% same genetic code as SARS Cov 1.. things just don’t add up, IMO
 
I don't claim to know everything about what's going on, but I do think the vaccines are an honest and well-intentioned (and needed) attempt to control this thing that, for better or for worse (read: worse) is loose in the population. The vaccines are built off of years of work that was done in trying to develop a vaccine for the original SARS, although many people believe that it was rushed inappropriately. It was rushed, because we are facing an emergency situation, but there was also an unprecedented level of focus on it by the entire world's medical research community, and like I said, it wasn't from nothing, it was built off the back of years of previous work. Bottom line, in my view, is that we need to get back to normal, and this disease, while fortunately not being super deadly, has caused millions of deaths worldwide as well as a significant incidence of long-lasting negative health repercussions for many people. So we needed to take it seriously, and we needed to develop a vaccine. Ultimately, COVID will end up like the flu, another potentially deadly and serious disease endemic to humanity, that we will develop greater resistance against over time, but that mutates regularly. We will have yearly vaccines, like we do with the flu. And over time, we won't be so freaked out by it, and some people will get vaccinated yearly and some won't, vulnerable people will die every year and millions will get sick and it will suck, but we'll get used to it. Whether it was human-made or natural, whether it was released on purpose or on accident, these things don't matter very much right now in terms of what is needed to control it. It DOES matter a great deal whether it had nefarious origins, but it doesn't have any impact on our efforts to try to minimize its harm.
 

Former Pfizer VP Tells RFK, Jr.: Young, Healthy People Shouldn’t Be Coerced Into Taking ‘Experimental’ Vaccines​



COVID vaccines are “a completely novel technology” that should not be called vaccines, according to Dr. Mike Yeadon, former vice president and chief scientist for allergy and respiratory at Pfizer.


In an interview with Children’s Health Defense, Chairman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., on the “RFK Jr. The Defender Podcast,” Yeadon said he was surprised to learn COVID vaccines used mRNA technology.


When he left his position at Pfizer 10 years ago, Yeadon said scientists were “miles away” from creating a product using mRNA technology that could be safely administered to everyone.


Yeadon, who has 32 years of experience leading new medicine research in the pharmaceutical industry, said:


“I was intrigued as to what they’ve done to fix the difficulties, which are safe delivery, really safe delivery of a message into a cell that will allow it to then copy that message and do something useful without in any way being harmful. I don’t really understand how they’ve succeeded because those were always the problems in the lab. Can’t get it into cells without hurting them to do what you want. Of course, I’m not sure they have succeeded.”


Because COVID vaccines use experimental technology that may pose serious side effects such as blood clots, Yeadon said, “we should absolutely not be offering them to young, healthy people who are not at risk from the virus.”


He said:


“I have two healthy adult girls, 25 and 29 years-old, and I would be really upset if they ended up being coerced into taking these products because they’re healthy and young, and there are not any measurable risks from COVID-19.”


Listen to the full interview to hear Yeadon and RFK, Jr. discuss the totalitarian nature of vaccine passports and why the push for COVID vaccine booster shots is clouded in deception.

 
And yet there have been many more young, healthy people who have experienced substantial health problems or death from COVID, than from vaccines.
 
I am having a hard time getting the vaccine. And I am one that agrees they are good science and the track record of what they curbed is documented. I have no real worries about tracking devices (lol) or magnets or anthing conspiratorial . Yet I can not get myself to get it. As a result I am still sort not being around people. So for now I have to honor that feeling in me. I still may but there is an invisible wall between me and the vaccine for now and I don't know why. I am doing some soul searching. My wife gets her second tomorrow.

Yeah, no strong feelings I am not an anti vaxxer. But for some reason the feeling I get is like someone telling me to go steal something. Something not sitting right. I can say one thing feeling this way we have to have a lot of patience with people that do have strong feelings. Telling people to just get it will not work.

Covid did get some young people. My neighbor works for a power company and he saw some young healthy people die and other sick. Last year during the peak. So the notion of a vaccine is sort of a relief in a way. If I were to travel from the US to Africa I would need some vaccines. I understand that. Yet still can't do this Covid one yet.

I just don't think we should get mad at each other over this. I respect everyone. Covid will go away too. Odd how it hits spots and leaves. I speak with people in India in meetings and some areas were real bad last month. Meanwhile the East Coast of the US that got hit last Spring is opening back up and hospitals just fine.
 
Not sure if this article is paywalled or free (many Covid-inspired articles have been free over the last year). But the tl;dr of it is that German researchers now believe they've discovered why the adenovirus vector vaccines (AZ, J&J etc) are causing the autoimmune responses which have resulted in clots and deaths. They also think it should be possible to tweak the vaccines to prevent the issue. Though whether they'll do so, and whether this really fixes the issue, remains to be seen....


Scientists claim to have solved Covid vaccine blood-clot puzzle

German researchers say side effect is caused by adenovirus vector and can be fixed​


Scientists in Germany claim to have cracked the cause of the rare blood clots linked to the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccines and believe the jabs could be tweaked to stop the reaction happening altogether.

Rolf Marschalek, a professor at Goethe university in Frankfurt who has been leading studies into the rare condition since March, said his research showed that the problem sat with the adenovirus vectors that both vaccines use to deliver the spike protein of the Sars-Cov-2 virus into the body.

The delivery mechanism means the vaccines send the spike protein into the cell nucleus rather than the cytosol fluid found inside the cell where the virus normally produces proteins, Marschalek and other scientists said in a preprint paper released on Wednesday.

Once inside the cell nucleus, certain parts of the spike protein splice, or split apart, creating mutant versions, which are unable to bind to the cell membrane where important immunisation takes place.

The floating mutant proteins are instead secreted by cells into the body, triggering blood clots in roughly one in 100,000 people, according to Marschalek’s theory....
 
I got my first shot a couple days after catching COVID and had a pretty extreme reaction to it for about 10 hours (probably because I was already Infected, unbeknownst to me). Once my covid symptoms did start they weren’t much more than some allergy or mild cold symptoms. I wonder if getting the vaccine helped tone down covid effects.
Im getting my second shot in few days.
 
wondering if i should report the epic hangover i'm experiencing the day after my pfizer jab to VAERS, we don't know for sure it wasn't caused by the excessive alcohol consumption that took place afterwards.

other than that only side effect seems to be very sore arm, which my boyf has too and i gather is pretty common.
 
I'm willing to bet you've just got a hangover. Occam's razor and all. If it keeps going on longer than a normal hangover, then maybe start to consider whether it is an adverse reaction.
 
I'm willing to bet you've just got a hangover.
so would i. i was taking the piss out of VAERS (which literally has car crashes on it ffs but is taken as gospel truth by anti vaxxers)

i'm actually experiencing quite severe muscle pain now which is a common side effect but 0 regrets in getting the vaccine- a day or two of soreness is better than risking ending up on a ventilator or passing covid to someone vulnerable.
 
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