Mr. Krinkle
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small pox wasn't a problem here anymore right, do you still get a small pox vaccine or do you not?
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cduggles
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We use one type of vaccine here and they use another one overseas. There are logistical and cost considerations that aren’t in play in the US.
Well, they invented something called a vaccine…
Mr. Krinkle
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and why did they stop giving that thing that was called a vaccine for small pox?
cduggles
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Because there was a worldwide vaccination effort that lasted decades, and humans are the only reservoirs for the disease.
It’s kind of like what they are trying to do for polio, but informed consent was less of a consideration with smallpox.
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no need for a smallpox vaccine, due to the vaccination program. its almost like vaccines work when takeup is sufficient....
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No use crying over spilt milk now Wizard.
ageingpartyfiend
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Just peruse any covid thread on here, will do the trick nicelyBoo! I want to work myself into a frenzy!
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ok, you're truly fucked - doomed!My life is not worth living unless people tell me that I am wrong. I am ultimately a self-defeating narcissist/wizard disorder!
Make it hurt people! I would hate to think that I did something right by getting vaccinated. I’m such a pussy that I got the “easiest” vaccine to vacation in the Greek Islands (Americans are allowed to that now and I just got a $1600 check bitches).
Please keep me informed about side-effects of the J&J vaccine.
Bill was in your pill.
cduggles
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What if you win the lottery and are fine? How will you survive? 
cduggles
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Don’t worry, the anti-vaxxers will come and scare you plenty.
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I don't have a paper for you on it, but my personal research has indicated there is a serious risk of stress-induced hypertension associated with the vaccine, specifically with having second thoughts and catastrophizing
Seriously, there's no point worrying now, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. From the statistics I've seen you really are more likely to harm yourself with the stress of worrying about it.
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Wizard you will be alright, if you are worried see a doctor. The worst case is that your arm hurts from the jab of the needle.
Millions of people have taken the covid vaccines and most do not have negative side effects. I know people who are HIV+ or who have had cancer that took the covid vaccine and they had no horrible reactions.
Millions of people have taken the covid vaccines and most do not have negative side effects. I know people who are HIV+ or who have had cancer that took the covid vaccine and they had no horrible reactions.
I got pretty sick the night of! Felt like I had COVID all over again. Thankfully, it only lasted a day, and I'm feeling fine now.
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05/13/21
Officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Wednesday they see a “plausible causal association” between the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine and potentially life-threatening blood clot disorders after identifying 28 cases — including three deaths — among people who received the vaccine.
Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, deputy director of the CDC’s immunization safety office, presented the new cases at a Wednesday meeting of CDC panel advisers, The New York Times reported.
Shimabukuro’s presentation identified 28 cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) among people vaccinated with the J&J shot. The cases were based on reports submitted to the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, known as VAERS. TTS involves blood clots accompanied by a low level of platelets.
Shimabukuro said four of the 28 people with TTS remained in the hospital as of May 7, one of whom was in the ICU. Two were discharged to a post-acute care facility, 19 patients were discharged and three resulted in deaths.
Current evidence “suggests a plausible causal association” with the J&J vaccine and cases of TTS, Shimabukuro said.
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) is one form of TTS reported with J&J’s vaccine where clots form in the veins that drain blood from the brain, putting patients at risk for a stroke. The condition appears similar to what is being observed following administration of the AstraZeneca COVID shots in Europe, Shimabukuro said.
Most of the J&J cases in the U.S. were among women ages 18 to 49, and six cases were in men, the CDC said. Rates among women 30 to 39 years old and 40 to 49 were particularly high — 12.4 cases per million and 9.4 cases per million — according to the presentation.
Of the 28 TTS cases, 19 affected the brain, with 10 of those patients suffering from a cerebral hemorrhage, Shimabukuro said. The other clots formed in the lower extremities, pulmonary arteries or other areas of the body.
All of the patients received the J&J vaccine before the vaccine was temporarily paused on April 13.
The CDC’s Dr. Sara Oliver said the benefits of the vaccine still outweigh the risk and no updates to vaccine policy are needed at this time.
As of April 25, the CDC had acknowledged only 17 cases of clotting among nearly 8 million people given J&J vaccines.
Children’s Health Defense queried the VAERS data for adverse events associated with blood clotting disorders between Dec.14, 2020 and April 30, and found 2,808 reports associated with all three vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S.
Of the 2,808 cases reported, 1043 reports were attributed to Pfizer, 893 reports to Moderna and 860 reports to J&J — 832 cases more than the 28 cases reported by the CDC Wednesday.
According to Shimabukuro’s presentation, the CDC and U.S. Food and Drug Administration search VAERS daily for blood clotting disorders associated with vaccines, including rare thromboses (like cerebral venous thrombosis), deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary thromboembolism, ischemic stroke and myocardial infarction.
Using only the CDC’s search criteria, VAERS revealed 1,082 cases of blood clotting disorders associated with all three vaccines, including 315 reports attributed to J&J, 437 reports attributed to Pfizer and 328 cases to Moderna.
Yet according to the CDC, there were only 28 cases of blood clotting disorders associated with J&J’s vaccine and no confirmed cases of TTS associated with Moderna or Pfizer.
As The Defender reported May 10, a Utah teen remains hospitalized with blood clots in his brain after receiving his first dose of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine.
Everest Romney, 17, received the vaccine April 21 and one day later began experiencing neck pain, fever and severe headaches. After more than a week of symptoms and being unable to freely move his neck, he was diagnosed with two blood clots inside his brain, and one outside.
The Utah Department of Health told FOX 13 the CDC is tasked with investigating possible vaccine side effects. After administering nearly 100 million doses of Pfizer’s vaccine, the CDC reported there hasn’t been a single related case of a blood clot forming in the brain as of April 12.
The CDC’s April 12 statement contradicts numerous news reports, studies, scientists and the agency’s own system for monitoring adverse reactions.
‘Plausible’ Link Between J&J Vaccine and Blood Clots, CDC Says After Confirming 28 Cases, Including 3 Deaths
Officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Wednesday they see a “plausible causal association” between the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine and potentially life-threatening blood clot disorders after identifying 28 cases — including three deaths — among people who received the vaccine.
Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, deputy director of the CDC’s immunization safety office, presented the new cases at a Wednesday meeting of CDC panel advisers, The New York Times reported.
Shimabukuro’s presentation identified 28 cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) among people vaccinated with the J&J shot. The cases were based on reports submitted to the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, known as VAERS. TTS involves blood clots accompanied by a low level of platelets.
Shimabukuro said four of the 28 people with TTS remained in the hospital as of May 7, one of whom was in the ICU. Two were discharged to a post-acute care facility, 19 patients were discharged and three resulted in deaths.
Current evidence “suggests a plausible causal association” with the J&J vaccine and cases of TTS, Shimabukuro said.
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) is one form of TTS reported with J&J’s vaccine where clots form in the veins that drain blood from the brain, putting patients at risk for a stroke. The condition appears similar to what is being observed following administration of the AstraZeneca COVID shots in Europe, Shimabukuro said.
Most of the J&J cases in the U.S. were among women ages 18 to 49, and six cases were in men, the CDC said. Rates among women 30 to 39 years old and 40 to 49 were particularly high — 12.4 cases per million and 9.4 cases per million — according to the presentation.
Of the 28 TTS cases, 19 affected the brain, with 10 of those patients suffering from a cerebral hemorrhage, Shimabukuro said. The other clots formed in the lower extremities, pulmonary arteries or other areas of the body.
All of the patients received the J&J vaccine before the vaccine was temporarily paused on April 13.
The CDC’s Dr. Sara Oliver said the benefits of the vaccine still outweigh the risk and no updates to vaccine policy are needed at this time.
As of April 25, the CDC had acknowledged only 17 cases of clotting among nearly 8 million people given J&J vaccines.
Children’s Health Defense queried the VAERS data for adverse events associated with blood clotting disorders between Dec.14, 2020 and April 30, and found 2,808 reports associated with all three vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S.
Of the 2,808 cases reported, 1043 reports were attributed to Pfizer, 893 reports to Moderna and 860 reports to J&J — 832 cases more than the 28 cases reported by the CDC Wednesday.
According to Shimabukuro’s presentation, the CDC and U.S. Food and Drug Administration search VAERS daily for blood clotting disorders associated with vaccines, including rare thromboses (like cerebral venous thrombosis), deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary thromboembolism, ischemic stroke and myocardial infarction.
Using only the CDC’s search criteria, VAERS revealed 1,082 cases of blood clotting disorders associated with all three vaccines, including 315 reports attributed to J&J, 437 reports attributed to Pfizer and 328 cases to Moderna.
Yet according to the CDC, there were only 28 cases of blood clotting disorders associated with J&J’s vaccine and no confirmed cases of TTS associated with Moderna or Pfizer.
As The Defender reported May 10, a Utah teen remains hospitalized with blood clots in his brain after receiving his first dose of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine.
Everest Romney, 17, received the vaccine April 21 and one day later began experiencing neck pain, fever and severe headaches. After more than a week of symptoms and being unable to freely move his neck, he was diagnosed with two blood clots inside his brain, and one outside.
The Utah Department of Health told FOX 13 the CDC is tasked with investigating possible vaccine side effects. After administering nearly 100 million doses of Pfizer’s vaccine, the CDC reported there hasn’t been a single related case of a blood clot forming in the brain as of April 12.
The CDC’s April 12 statement contradicts numerous news reports, studies, scientists and the agency’s own system for monitoring adverse reactions.
Xorkoth
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Yeah it's possible that the J&J vaccine does cause blood clots (VERY rarely), but considering the huge numbers of people who have gotten it, if there are 28 cases and only 3 deaths, that chance is vanishingly tiny.
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05/17/21
Eric Clapton said he had a “disastrous” health experience after receiving the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine, and the 76-year-old musician blamed propaganda for overstating the vaccine’s safety, Rolling Stone reported.
Clapton detailed his experience with AstraZeneca in a letter to Italian architect Robin Monotti, who shared it May 12 on Twitter.
In February, Clapton said he took his first dose of AstraZeneca and immediately suffered severe reactions lasting 10 days. About six weeks later he was offered and took the second dose, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers.
“Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks. I feared I would never play again,” Clapton said. “But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone.”
Clapton suffers from peripheral neuropathy and said he should never have gotten the jab. Peripheral neuropathy occurs as a result of damage to the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord (peripheral nerves). It often causes weakness, numbness and pain, usually in the hands and feet, and can also affect other areas of the body.
Clapton said he met a member of an online group who counseled him to be careful and look at what’s going on.
“I felt like a veil had been lifted, that I was no longer alone, that it was okay, in fact essential, to hold on to my intuition and follow my heart,” Clapton said. “I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know,” he added.
The AstraZeneca vaccine is not authorized in the U.S., but three COVID vaccines — Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — are. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends even those people with weakened immune systems and underlying medical conditions be vaccinated for COVID despite what the CDC states is limited safety data for people who fall into those categories.
Vaccine makers running ad campaigns in hope of winning over non-takers
Days after Clapton’s criticism of vaccine “propaganda,” the Wall Street Journal reported on how, in the U.S., vaccine makers are sponsoring ad campaigns targeting the roughly one-third of Americans who are reluctant to get a COVID vaccine.
Pfizer, Moderna, Regeneron and other pharmaceutical companies are sponsoring ads on TV, radio and social media to tout COVID vaccines and medications.
Unlike typical pharmaceutical ads that focus on specific drug brands, the COVID campaigns employ general messaging without mentioning manufacturers’ names. For example, some ads feature people spending time with loved ones, and end with “Why will you get vaccinated?”
One of Pfizer’s commercials shows a baby announcement as a reason to be vaccinated. According to iSpot, it was viewed 8.3 million times and had $78,000 in TV ad spend, the Wall Street Journal reported.
In another example, last month, late night host Jimmy Kimmel performed a skit in a white lab coat and answered medical questions about COVID vaccines that use mRNA technology. The skit was sponsored by vaccine maker Moderna.
Moderna declined to comment on its advertising budget but said the company increased marketing spending by $10 million during the first three months of 2021, compared to its 2020 first quarter.
Pfizer, Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. (maker of a monoclonal antibody drug treatment) and Eli Lilly & Co. (maker of a rival antibody therapy) are running ads on TV, radio and social media platforms targeting people who use search engines in areas with high infection rates.
Regeneron spent about $545,000 on national TV ads related to COVID, and its commercial was seen 142.5 million times, according to iSpot.tv Inc., a TV ad-measurement firm.
Regeneron ran its first TV ad in late April just before the Academy Awards broadcast on ABC. The 30-second spot features actors repeating the phrase “monoclonal antibodies” in an attempt to familiarize the public with a term.
Lilly and Pfizer declined to say how much they have spent on COVID advertising.
Eric Clapton ‘Feared He Would Never Play Again’ After AstraZeneca Vaccine, Says ‘Propaganda’ Overstated Safety
Eric Clapton said he had a “disastrous” health experience after receiving the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine, and the 76-year-old musician blamed propaganda for overstating the vaccine’s safety, Rolling Stone reported.
Clapton detailed his experience with AstraZeneca in a letter to Italian architect Robin Monotti, who shared it May 12 on Twitter.
In February, Clapton said he took his first dose of AstraZeneca and immediately suffered severe reactions lasting 10 days. About six weeks later he was offered and took the second dose, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers.
“Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks. I feared I would never play again,” Clapton said. “But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone.”
Clapton suffers from peripheral neuropathy and said he should never have gotten the jab. Peripheral neuropathy occurs as a result of damage to the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord (peripheral nerves). It often causes weakness, numbness and pain, usually in the hands and feet, and can also affect other areas of the body.
Clapton said he met a member of an online group who counseled him to be careful and look at what’s going on.
“I felt like a veil had been lifted, that I was no longer alone, that it was okay, in fact essential, to hold on to my intuition and follow my heart,” Clapton said. “I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know,” he added.
The AstraZeneca vaccine is not authorized in the U.S., but three COVID vaccines — Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — are. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends even those people with weakened immune systems and underlying medical conditions be vaccinated for COVID despite what the CDC states is limited safety data for people who fall into those categories.
Vaccine makers running ad campaigns in hope of winning over non-takers
Days after Clapton’s criticism of vaccine “propaganda,” the Wall Street Journal reported on how, in the U.S., vaccine makers are sponsoring ad campaigns targeting the roughly one-third of Americans who are reluctant to get a COVID vaccine.
Pfizer, Moderna, Regeneron and other pharmaceutical companies are sponsoring ads on TV, radio and social media to tout COVID vaccines and medications.
Unlike typical pharmaceutical ads that focus on specific drug brands, the COVID campaigns employ general messaging without mentioning manufacturers’ names. For example, some ads feature people spending time with loved ones, and end with “Why will you get vaccinated?”
One of Pfizer’s commercials shows a baby announcement as a reason to be vaccinated. According to iSpot, it was viewed 8.3 million times and had $78,000 in TV ad spend, the Wall Street Journal reported.
In another example, last month, late night host Jimmy Kimmel performed a skit in a white lab coat and answered medical questions about COVID vaccines that use mRNA technology. The skit was sponsored by vaccine maker Moderna.
Moderna declined to comment on its advertising budget but said the company increased marketing spending by $10 million during the first three months of 2021, compared to its 2020 first quarter.
Pfizer, Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. (maker of a monoclonal antibody drug treatment) and Eli Lilly & Co. (maker of a rival antibody therapy) are running ads on TV, radio and social media platforms targeting people who use search engines in areas with high infection rates.
Regeneron spent about $545,000 on national TV ads related to COVID, and its commercial was seen 142.5 million times, according to iSpot.tv Inc., a TV ad-measurement firm.
Regeneron ran its first TV ad in late April just before the Academy Awards broadcast on ABC. The 30-second spot features actors repeating the phrase “monoclonal antibodies” in an attempt to familiarize the public with a term.
Lilly and Pfizer declined to say how much they have spent on COVID advertising.
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yea but you have to catch covid first and whats the odds of that and then whats the odds of clots from covid and then you'll have the correct answer
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