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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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its all garbage. lol

fight the powah
and smoke the flowah!
it was this that i was reffering to but it is all moot, brother... just more static and makin me erratic gonna grab the fo-fiiiiiive automatic.
hahaha
just trippin

easy
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nowhere in any site or google search

wasnt sayin you made it up. just commenting on the way linking sites can show different but same info. i just find it fuckin wierd that i am the only mf that ckicks on a feeakin link and reads the content. or at least weird that i am the only one who notices the anomalies and disconnectedness of our media sources.
ok im out my bad for causing any confusion will refrain from being the root cause of others headaches
over
:)
 
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its all garbage. lol

fight the powah
and smoke the flowah!
it was this that i was reffering to but it is all moot, brother... just more static and makin me erratic gonna grab the fo-fiiiiiive automatic.
hahaha
just trippin

easy
DGaQfVT.png

nowhere in any site or google search

wasnt sayin you made it up. just commenting on the way linking sites can show different but same info. i just find it fuckin wierd that i am the only mf that ckicks on a feeakin link and reads the content. or at least weird that i am the only one who notices the anomalies and disconnectedness of our media sources.
ok im out my bad for causing any confusion will refrain from being the root cause of others headaches
over
:)



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After digesting and digesting the posts here, news, people talking etc the only issue we have can be boiled down to trust. A lot of us don't trust the news experts on TV, science, etc. But when I examined my own trust I concluded this is a good faith effort and not some conspiracy to herd humans. LOL

And it almost comes down to would I rather be a trusting human being and and get screwed or never trust anything to protect my self? Both ways you can get screwed. But I came to the conclusion it is totally ok to trust whatever science we have on vaccines and virus transmission, and if I was wrong then oh well. Trusting is an opening of the heart. And I do not think it is a silly trust at all. Science made us all able to communicate like this. We do advance as humans.

I also wanted to wait till we see what Summer brought. And it brought a whole lot of yonger people dying of covid while their vaccinated relatives had a milder version. I do not think all those news stories are made up. It seems everyday someone younger dies and the rest of the family says get the vaccyine. I do think that is shameful to exploit a family, but now it is done in a matter of fact way. Not sensationalism. So that is what I concluded watching all of this and I am glad I got my first shot. As you know I did not run and get the vaccine, I had to wait till I made m own decision. And as much as I liked to report I had a real hesitancy, I like to report now the feeling of relief and ability to trust a little more. And if this is a big conspiracy oh well, that would be between other people and their God. All I did was trust our existing science and wade through all the biased news stories. Yes people are massaging results but not enough to deny it still is the right path

It came down to a deep level of trust, in myself, the world, others science and the good of mankind.
 
After digesting and digesting the posts here, news, people talking etc the only issue we have can be boiled down to trust. A lot of us don't trust the news experts on TV, science, etc. But when I examined my own trust I concluded this is a good faith effort and not some conspiracy to herd humans. LOL

And it almost comes down to would I rather be a trusting human being and and get screwed or never trust anything to protect my self? Both ways you can get screwed. But I came to the conclusion it is totally ok to trust whatever science we have on vaccines and virus transmission, and if I was wrong then oh well. Trusting is an opening of the heart. And I do not think it is a silly trust at all. Science made us all able to communicate like this. We do advance as humans.

I also wanted to wait till we see what Summer brought. And it brought a whole lot of yonger people dying of covid while their vaccinated relatives had a milder version. I do not think all those news stories are made up. It seems everyday someone younger dies and the rest of the family says get the vaccyine. I do think that is shameful to exploit a family, but now it is done in a matter of fact way. Not sensationalism. So that is what I concluded watching all of this and I am glad I got my first shot. As you know I did not run and get the vaccine, I had to wait till I made m own decision. And as much as I liked to report I had a real hesitancy, I like to report now the feeling of relief and ability to trust a little more. And if this is a big conspiracy oh well, that would be between other people and their God. All I did was trust our existing science and wade through all the biased news stories. Yes people are massaging results but not enough to deny it still is the right path

It came down to a deep level of trust, in myself, the world, others science and the good of mankind.

I kinda agree with you somewhat - but only somewhat :)

Like i don't think that the government is plotting anything, or injecting you with geo-locating gene-altering non-ferrous nanobots or anything along those lines...

but i want to hear the voices of those who've been injured by the vaccines, and there's a lot of ppl who have been, but i see that those ppl who speak about it, are silenced or screamed at for being "anti-vaxx!" by the pinks on the left, and i feel that is a more dangerous path to follow....we must hear ALL sides or we suffer more from the reality of the truth - because the truth is somewhere in the middle of it all

it's a health issue for me and it's a risk/benefit analysis for each and every individual because we're all different and we should all have the freedom to our own health

if you feel that somebody else is endangering you, then you should, as an individual, use more precautions to protect yourself, however that may be, and one of those ways to protect yourself, is by getting one of the shots that are available to you. Nobody should be forcing a shot on anybody who's already been infected with covid, but they are, using coercion, by threatening your job status, and then telling you no unemployment checks either (which is also your money that you pay into) if you're fired for not getting a vaccine. To me, that's wrong. If you think that's right, then i think you're an asshole. :)
 
To me, that's wrong. If you think that's right, then i think you're an asshole. :)
Without a doubt that is another angle of this that has angered me. The self righteous part where people that think they are right can threaten. I agree that is totally wrong. Slippery slope. Yet right in this thread we see people voice they are angered that people are not getting vaccinated. I think that is wrong too. So the behaviors this situation is displaying has almost turned into a game on a lot of levels. I think i just came to the conclusion that the game is a byproduct and not the start.

It was angering me that some side effects were not being reported ON PURPOSE just as the number of covid deaths were fudged ON PURPOSE. That is the game I do not like. I think all I am saying is when we peel all the layers away the whole initiative has started with integrity. A real desire to protect people. But personalities got involved and twisted some things on both sides of the vax opinion to suit people's purposes.

Lastly I do not think the vaccine is going to harm "most" people. Yes it will hurt some people. And people are willing to chance that as the other end of the spectrum is covid can also harm you. And the roll of the dice of who gets past it and who falls to it it not an option for most people. So people decided to take chances with the vaccine.
 
2x Pfizer a while ago, some pain in my arm for the first shot. If the rest of the country would hurry up so things can go back to normal that would be fantastic.

I don't know about vaccinating children though, you just never know for sure do you..... But I'll gladly avoid any discussion regarding this.

Big business too for the respective pharma companies, already talking about third and fourth shot........ =D
 
it doesn't matter how many ppl are vaccinated.....that's what you guys won't let sink in....


Israel, once a global leader in coronavirus containment, has one of the highest daily infection rates in the world.

Nearly one in every 150 people in Israel today has the virus. An average of nearly 7,500 people are infected per day - double the infection rate of two weeks ago.....
 
the main focus should be on treating covid at this point since it really can't be prevented.....and in the meantime, keep working on the development of new preventatives to test out on the willing
 
it doesn't matter how many ppl are vaccinated.....that's what you guys won't let sink in....
Well it does matter as you have a larger chance at surviving. Do you agree with this statement?

The unvaccinated life is tough (in my country), have to get tested every time you wanna do something etc.... I expect them to make the life of the unvaccinated tough in the next half year. It doesn't make much sense to me that you can go anywhere with a vaccine while you still can carry the virus. But it's the rules our fearless leaders set.
 
Well it does matter as you have a larger chance at surviving. Do you agree with this statement?

The unvaccinated life is tough (in my country), have to get tested every time you wanna do something etc.... I expect them to make the life of the unvaccinated tough in the next half year. It doesn't make much sense to me that you can go anywhere with a vaccine while you still can carry the virus. But it's the rules our fearless leaders set.

i do somewhat agree....if it helps with hospitalization, then it matters for some....at least for now anyway.....but between it still being able to infect everybody just the same, and it being able to mutate to be able to spread more easily, i don't see how any of these vaccines can ever stay ahead of it....so eventually, natural immunity will play the greatest roll in ending it, which sounds and looks to me, to be the inevitable
 
i do somewhat agree....if it helps with hospitalization, then it matters for some....at least for now anyway.....but between it still being able to infect everybody just the same, and it being able to mutate to be able to spread more easily, i don't see how any of these vaccines can ever stay ahead of it....so eventually, natural immunity will play the greatest roll in ending it, which sounds and looks to me, to be the inevitable
Yeah there is no endgame. As far as I understand vaccination does slow down the mutation rate but there are still loads of less developed countries where the virus just roams free.
 
Well it does matter as you have a larger chance at surviving. Do you agree with this statement?

The unvaccinated life is tough (in my country), have to get tested every time you wanna do something etc.... I expect them to make the life of the unvaccinated tough in the next half year. It doesn't make much sense to me that you can go anywhere with a vaccine while you still can carry the virus. But it's the rules our fearless leaders set.
Fearless? No. They create those rules because they fear the population, not because they are fearless. Our power structures in society are governed by insecurity and fear of rebellion and uprising. If they were truly fearless we would live in a society that governed itself in every way that would be possible. With control comes power and that's what governments want. They want more and more of it and so they have to cajole entire populations into giving them that because they know if the table was set in a different way and the illusion came crashing down, their control would mean nothing and society would seek to balance the books naturally. The fact you can do very little without vaccination proves my point. If your rulers were fearless they would face their populations head on and allow their populations to take control. In which case, we wouldn't have ended up at vaccinations or vaccination passports. We wouldn't have gone through all this if it was left to society to deal with and their collective intelligence, common sense, awareness and capacities. You wouldn't want to believe that though perhaps because we are told we cannot live without these power structures we currently have and we are powerless to do the right thing when necessary.

You don't have a larger chance of surviving. The vaccines doesn't aid in survival. It doesn't cure the virus. It treats the symptoms and so it has nothing to do with larger chance of surviving at all. The mitigation of symptoms is what they are treating, not the actual virus. This is on the record. This is why more and more people who are vaccinated are still getting sick. If it cured the virus then we wouldn't be here now introducing vaccine passports. We would have seen the evidence and it would be glaringly obvious they work and they are a gift from the heavens and that would have been it. As it turns out, it was never meant to end there. And that's because your rulers saw how your population fell for the tricks and sold themselves to a life that is now greatly restricted. It's a test, a feeling out process, they see how far they can take you and then raise you on your response. If your response is what they want they go all-in knowing you will call and lose the hand. If it hadn't been bought into, the game would have been up. That's called control of the population. Nothing to do with a virus. And again, it's based on the basis understanding that governments that are allowed to flex the boundaries will do so and that's why it's down to the citizenry to hold them to account and reduce the power and influence they have. This hasn't happened and what power and control we have we have given away, hence why we are here today. That's also not fearlessness, it's simply manipulative and predatory tactics people play with each other everyday to see what they can get out of their victim. And it only works because they can get away with it! They know this so their false sense of security is reinforced. People give authorities the power, it's not a process of them simply being powerful to begin with. We believe in their authority and then they simply expand on this authority until they get what they want and are in the greatest position of power possible. Only it's on a far greater level and involves millions around the world. On our daily level, we would refer to these people as domestic abusers, sex predators, opportunist criminals, narcissists, sociopaths, your typical cluster B personality traits. They wear a facade that gets beyond most peoples attention and then go for broke destroying everything they touch. These people work in the same place as us, they live in the same house, they go to the same university as us, they are our family members, friends and loved ones. It's just not on the grand world stage and you can say thank your lucky stars that isn't the case! We struggle to draw the parallels though as we like to believe there is normal people and then better people and those better people are those who put on pedestals like they belong to another species entirely and are made of better stuff. In terms of a narcissistic abusive relationship, you might refer it to as giving them the fuel and idealization of their delusions of grandeur. They thrive off the reality you superimpose for them, even when it's not actually how things are. But you try telling yourself that after spending days, months or even years as a victim of it. It becomes different to tell the difference and at one point, you made that distinction and then put it into reality which then cemented the abusive relationship. When you take everything away from them, they are so small and insignificant and with time they will simply wilt away as the unfulfilled broken and eternally damned individual they are. That's when you see rulers hauled down the street and their heads put on stakes while the masses rightfully celebrate their victory. That doesn't just happen in far-off countries. It has happened throughout history everywhere only the power structures and systems created in later times prevented rulers from facing that fate, as best as possible anyway. But.. the crucial point is, we have to get to that point. In terms of society, we are nowhere near close to doing that and everything around us prevents us from doing so. It's normalized. Western culture for example permeates toxic lifestyle choices reflective of superficial narcissistic and parasitic traits. We think it's normal. So why are we going to deal with the problems when we encourage it on every level? We encourage predatory competition, we encourage cheating, lying and manipulating. We encourage abusing our connection to the planet over endless futile pursuits of happiness i.e consumerism and materialistic ventures. We encourage disconnection, detachment, alienation and abandonment. We encourage Messiah complexes and then praise those who think they are God and want to take over the world. We encourage the demise of ourselves under the delusion we will become more than what we are. We play roles everyday to fool ourselves into believing we are okay and then we go out and project this out onto the world knowing everyone else is doing it and our systems encourage it while we see the destruction it does simply not returning to who we really are and what really matters. We have grandiose visions of superiority that only a select few people actually attain and these are the worst among us who have exploited everybody and everything to get there, and we call them role models. We idolize people with status, fame and fortune because we think it equates to success, happiness and solves the problems to our lives.

There are people out there who do the same as what world leaders do on a daily basis, just not with such a mammoth platform. Psychopaths, sociopaths and extremely calculated and intelligent tyrants who simply haven't assumed the highest position in office. They are everywhere. And because we are talking about the human species and not a separate branch of humanity i.e politicians are just like you and me when you take away their power, the same traits are in government and positions of authority too. People with these traits are drawn to positions of power naturally. We have these people everyday on the street level. They exist among us. It's not otherworldly. And we let these people assume their positions and then we simply reinforce their darkness and tidy up and brush away their lack of traits we really need for the positions they take. We want these people running the world, and so they do. Or we don't know what we want and so we are told what we do want.
 
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"Some county-level officials said they track as many breakthrough cases as possible even if their state and the CDC does not.

For instance, in Clark County, Nevada, home of Las Vegas, the public health website reported that as of last week there were 225 hospitalized breakthrough cases but 4,377 vaccinated people overall who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

That means that less than 5% of reported breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization. “The Southern Nevada Health District tracks the total number of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for COVID-19 and it is a method to provide a fuller picture of what is occurring in our community,” said Stephanie Bethel, a spokesperson for the health district in an email."
 
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