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The Brain, The Mind and Neuroscience (& maybe more)

Journyman16 said:
(..) There are a number of systems in the body that not many people have heard about. Interestingly those places correspond to something many people HAVE heard of, the acupressure or acupuncture locations.
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I strongly believe acupuncture can work, however, you must certify (and how can we do that?) that this person or doctor really understands where exactly the locations are. This is obviously not to press in a location that is not the right one and by that causing unnecessary suffering or just the unexpected.
I once knew one friend of mine who was overweight and with acupuncture he lost precisely 38.7 kilos. That´s amazing. However, the person who performed that was a Chinese who was familiar with the proceedings for over 45 years of work.
So I wonder how can we be sure if we having the best doctor?
By the way: Out of climate changes, what do you expect from this winter. Last winter I was in Quebec City for 18 days and it was colder there like 47 years ago. Not extremely cold, but beyond freezing for a record time.
 
Thank you for referring me to this…
From the intro post, William James's writings on unexplained ineffable experiences, comes to mind… as well as Colin Wilson's bird's eye view… and Alfred Korzybski… He spoke of maps, and how they are not the reality, or territory. Krishnamurti also touches on this.. as awareness of objects verses our psychologic reaction to the object which changes our reality, kinda via memory and conditioning… personal knowledge, story .. thought system etc…. basically, subjective interpretation.

I have not heard of this God Helmut though and am intrigued… I have had some of these experiences, when seemingly dying, but also just out of nowhere in the middle of the day… I am familiar with the frontal cortex, and how it can resist such things. I wonder if the resistance is stronger based on our personal programming or psychological injuries early on… Yet, early set personal or transpersonal trauma can create dissociative states where the frontal cortex iirc is not so intact through these experiences. If I am making sense… which can also bring on seemingly God like experiences. I hope to read some more… quite fascinating… especially the sciences… I am not familiar with those as much… :)
 
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@Erikmen - True dat about picking the right doctor/practitioner. I guess it's a matter of asking around and/or checking their experience. Another way might be the same way you find a good Chinese restaurant - watch who goes there and if there' plenty of Chinese, you know they've got to be doing something right.

You might want to take a look at tapping, or EFT - it uses some of the acu-points and is quite effective at emotional release stuff and often, releasing the emotion behind something is enough to bring healing. The body can do some pretty amazing stuff if we can geet out of the way.

@Smoky - the God helmet uses magnetic fields to stir a part of the brain. That effect gives rise to feelings that a lot of testees see as being a religious experience and many of them claim to have felt a presence.

I think mostly, unless very lucky, early trauma is more a limiting factor than something that enables us. But it could be - a lot of the effort we put into mystical, astral or spiritual experiences is to first of all about how to tell the frontal lobes to shut-the-fuck-up so we can achieve other states.

Hemisync works well for that - not as good as neurofeedback because NFB can help you learn how to achieve altered states by pure mind control, where Hemisync more or less drags you there. But Hemisync can be used quite well and if you are making your own tracks, you can underlay the binaural beats with both music and voice, so you might for example play something elevating and have your own voice giving you instructions on where to go.
 
I would love to try the God helmet sometime…
True, trauma can limit our life experiences… unless addressed. The knots deeply rooted need to be untied, from early on to transcend the pain into healthy conscious energy in present life… The body in itself can hold much stagnation from early psychological injury.
I actually just did acupuncture yesterday, it is one form I utilize to heal.

I cannot listen when my mind is talking…. conflicted and separated from what simply IS. Intuitive wisdom goes out the window when I'm arguing with myself.

There is a term NOSC, 'non ordinary states of consciousness… ' - verses, normal waking consciousness… that of course can be achieved through drugs, but in a healthier way through spiritual experiences … especially when the frontal lobes are quieted.
Some can still utilize these lobes and some cannot during these experiences.
I have done biofeedback before… and inner child work, but not specifically NFB or Hemisync.
I am going to look into it. :)
 
There's a post further up the page about Spotlight and Floodlight awareness - if we can learn to be able to be in Floodlight and aware of it, it would be described as NOSC. The times I've been able to come close to such a state have been, to coin a phrase, :D 'enlightening' for me.
 
Yes, to be in the light and not search to be in the light, or claim ' I ' am in the light, as the the search can negate ever just being … in all that simply IS. Consciousness.
 
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Smoky said:
Yes, to be in the light and not search to be in the light, or claim ' I ' am in the light, as the the search can negate ever just being … in all that simply IS. Consciousness.
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It seems at least possible, the 'Fall' was when we found an 'I' and learned to focus. Original sin would then be the guilt that comes from no longer seeing the 'family' 'clan' or whatever level it was, as paramount and instead being Self. Every time we made a decision that benefited Self instead of Group, we would trigger guilt.

But then again maybe, the Fall was deciding the Solid was so attractive we would let Selfs be more important than group and so we got trapped here in the Solid.

I don't have an opinion but I am fairly sure SOMEONE got control of the re-birth process and now we are all trapped unless we can learn, in one lifetime, enough to take Self with us between lives and bring it back here. I'm guessing at the point of leaving, we are all so low-spirit that we can't (mostly) just decide to leave the game - it must be very addictive or we wouldn't have close to 8 billion Beings here.

Think about it... if we ARE immortal Beingness, there are no explanations for the ever-increasing numbers here unless it is, once here you can't leave. If you have one, I'd love to hear it, but please don't bother with the "We're just a body and when we die that's it" because the evidence is against that view.
 
While I'm here... Karma. Apart from jokes like 'My karma just ran over your dogma' WTF is it?

The usual story is, if you do bad things, you will pay for it in the next (or in a future) life. Some people claim it happens now, as in 'what goes around comes around' but you only have to cast a (possibly jaundiced) eye around the world to see that bastards do well and nice guys finish last. IN SPITE OF the Hollywood schmaltz we are pap-fed. Facts are, you and me normal people struggle to survive while the scumbags willing to sacrifice anyone in their way get to live high on the hog.

So... the next life thing.

Here's the problem. We do not recall previous lives. Almost nobody, including the Hindus does so. So here's how the Karma thing REALLY works. (if it does :D)

I do something bad in my life. Let's say I tread severely on 10,000 peasants and rape all their wives. I get to be rich until I die, but that's OK because Karma says I will pay later.

Except I don't... EVER. The person who wakes into the next life as a peasant (so I can be 'paid back for my badness') has literally NO MEMORY of being that bad person. SO any 'punishment' visited upon me is first, meaningless and second, entirely unfair(Edit here: - unfair in bringing punishment to an inocent life. As well as... end EDIT) bringing karmic debt to the people visiting the Wrath of Karma' :D on me.

Note that Karma NEVER says if you have a BAD life or get harmed in life, you will get a good life next time.

OK, now the normal objection to this is about how it has to do with the Being that is present between lives. THEY are the ones who evaluate the life just led and assign the life to come... or choose it.

So... here's the BIGGIE... If I, as a discarnate Being between lives, can evaluate the life I just had, and assign values to it and decide to 'choose' a life that 'pays me back' for it, WTF do I need to live a life for? Seriously... If I already KNOW what I need to learn, why do I have to go back to a life where I get punished for something that, as an incarnate Being, I have no memory of?

And it gets worse... if I DO go back and live a life where someone else gets to hurt me and punish me, doesn't that then give THEM a karmic debt?

If you work it through, it turns out that there is NO WAY, EVER, for Beings to progress upwards in these lives. EVER! Everything we do invokes negative karma, whether it is what we do or what happens to us because of what we did.

And it doesn't even matter if you propose some higher being or higher self in there - whoever makes the decisions ALREADY KNOWS the consequences and the lessons and even the 'right' path to follow. It's just another version of God inventing Adam and Eve and giving them a test he knows they have to fail so he can punish them.

IMO, Karma is just the Eastern version of the Judaic guilt trip.
 
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One reason I feel (as mentioned above) that someone got control of the rebirth process is by looking at the 0.01% of ultra-rich who appear, as far as I can determine, to rule the planet. I have a thread about 'It IS a conspiracy' where New Scientist presents research showing the multitudinous connectivity between the transnational corporations of the world and how it gives the inner core of them control of large majorities of the world's resources - a figure only going up as the US Govt and to a lesser extent other countries, do the bidding of the Corporations to destabilise countries who have resources to be asset stripped.

I'm not wanting to start a conversation about that issue here, just pointing out where I am coming from with the next part.

So, here's the thing.

It seems apparent that, if there IS a family conspiracy to control the world, and I think there is, then what we see is strange. These people are mostly psychopaths - their behaviour and greed, their lack of empathy for those they are destroying and subjugating and their willingness to disregard all ethics or morals the instant anyone dares to even get in their way for a moment defines them as such.

But you don't look for long at this scene to realise they are running programs across decades and centuries.

Also it is quite apparent the ultra-rich, the Royals of Europe, the Rothschilds, Krupps, Warbucks, Rackefellers etc have easily enough control to impose whatever order they want and simply kill anyone who dares dissent - and they've had that level of control for at least a couple of decades and maybe longer.

These are, after all, the people who start wars and bankroll both sides, who determine in secret which conflicts will happen and escalate and which will be resolved in favour of whom.

There are not many scenarios which can fit those items side-by-side.

#1 - One is along the David Icke line - the hidden rulers are aliens who sit in the background and manipulate - humans are less than cattle to them so there is never slip-up when it comes to the hidden agendas - would you go and tell a cow about the abattoir at the end of the truck ride? Maybe there just aren't enough of the aliens to let them come out from cover and run things in the open, or they might be worried that us seeing them would unite us all against them - Reagan mentioned how he thought we needed aliens to allow us to unite as humans.

#2 - Another is there are some VERY long-lived people behind all this - whether immortal of just thousands of years old, they could have the power necessary to hold the reins on the psychopaths so that things only get implemented according to a specific plan. The same possibilities exist here as for the aliens - very few of them, adverse reactions to exposure...

#3 - There is also a possibility that this life we lead is NOT all there is, and that someone is sitting in control and making sure that all people do not get subjugated unless they ask to be - this would fit with the increasingly obvious process used around the world - create the problem, wait for the reaction, provide the solution that was planned in advance. Whether or not you believe the official version of 9/11, it is highly suspicious that within days there was a 700+ page document delivered to Congress along with a demand to pass it immediately due to terrorism. Also suspicious is Rumsfeld and GDubya BOTH having slips-of-the-tongue and accidentally saying Iraq instead of Afghanistan - because clearly those two country names are so similar.

It seems to me, 9/11 was planned in advance by the people who gained the most, not some guy in a cave, even WITH his CIA training. Problem - reaction - solution...

#4 - The final possibility I can think of kind of ties in with #3 - that we live lives just like we drive cars. We buy a car and we quickly get used to it, so much so the limits of the car become OUR limits and it is like our body. (at least that's what occurs with GOOD drivers :D) Just so we get into a body, drive it around for a while until it passes it's use-by date or is in an accident, then we go pick up another body.

Evidence for this can be found in Robert Monroe's books, where he details his lifetime experiences in astral travelling - there is a VERY interesting section where he describes the processing station where 'Beings' can enter the Earth scenario to live lives in the Solid. In book 3, Ultimate Journey (think it's that one) he talks about how a being has to agree to conditions, then enter a terminal and turn right - there is an instruction NOT to turn left and Monroe never explores what this meant. I can't help but wonder if maybe some beings can rock up to the terminal and turn left and pick right up where they left off, in a new body.

Ever wondered why the ultra-rich and Royals always marry and breed within their select little coteries?

Remember, what I am trying to explore here is NOT the background stuff, but why psychopaths would agree to plans that will not bear fruit until well after they are dead - it just does not fit with the personality type. They couldn't give a shit about children nor are they altruistic in any way - any such appearances are specifically designed to obtain particular ends for them and them alone.

Given all the posts before this one, I lean towards #4 - it fits with many of the oddities I've come across, it fits the type, it explains the secrecy and it relies on us being programmed to never understand what our lives are, nor that we are more than just bodies.

I'm curious as to what people think of the reasoning...
 
We are absolutely much more than a body, I do agree.

Are we a container moving around in this organism we live in on this island called earth until it's time to leave the shell? Maybe… Yet, who is leaving the shell, or suit? Who are "we" though? I don't think we can know this, herein lies the dilemma. We just might always be what we are looking for.
Perhaps aliens are the solution to bridge the gap. Doesn't mean we can't keep asking the questions though and live 'in the mystery' so to speak, as some psychopathic gurus use to claim. (I just ordered the Guru Papers (old), another topic but looks interesting. About spiritual authority).

I would not r/o any authoritarian type family lineage control… nor the top 1 % that has 16% or so monies of the entire world. So I hear?
Nor psychopathology, which is different than sociopathy and could quite fit your description. Sociopaths are too scattered, and symptoms more based in nurture vs psychopath's expressions thread back to nature… Which could point to reproducing more psychopaths.
They cannot be trusted as their true nature isn't suspected…

If one doesn't like the effect they can learn not to produce the cause, sure - but as far as reincarnation… I agree with you.. To me this is just a mortal fear It.just.doesn't.add up.. Once again, 'who' is begin reincarnated? And yeah, guilt indeed plays a role… and an excuse for this lifetime, perhaps.
Learning how to die is living, in a sense.. so if there is a going somewhere else or into another body/mind organism after this, sure … I wouldn't mind that, but to live this as truth… isn't possible as no one can truly know. It would be mere delusion, imo. To claim a knowing of truth
There is no progressing upward, silly stuff to me… I agree with your theory. 'Who' is progressing, and is someone making this progression based on a past life? I highly doubt it.

I am familiar with astral traveling. There are claims it's possible. If I were to choose from above, #4 seems fitting…

We are not supposed to understand, if we did, what would be the point? We will continue to look though I'm sure, and chose belief systems to ease the suffering while here…. living in what cannot be known.
 
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One possibility comes via Robert Monroe's books. If I understand what he went through (& of course, presuming it is 'real' - more on that further down) then we begin as pure Self, just kinda basking the the 'light' or realm in which all Beingness is - some might interpret that as God and there are some hints in his astral travels that there IS a higher Beingness - and eventually we get restless? curious? bored? and we go looking for elseness.

Apparently Earth is just one such elseness and beings come here to learn Self and to get understanding of the universe - whether our universe is all there is or perhaps this universe is just the basement level where we learn to express and grow I'm unsure. Monroe didn't seem to chase down some things that I'd have been onto like a flash... :D

I think, in that scenario, we have explanation for concepts (interesting the word starts with 'con' :D) for heaven etc. From Monroe's visits to astral it appears that when we leave the body for the final time, we will go seek what we expect, so there are 'constructs' in astral that give Christians what they want, Muslims get their heaven, Vikings get Valhalla etc.

What I wonder is whether those constructs are traps, collecting devices for TPTB running the rebirth process so they don't have to go hunting for their victims to throw them back into lives. Strangely, one of the first stories I wrote when I was a kid was about an Amnesiac Pulser, a device designed to collect us as we left our lives and program us and send us back into bodies. And that was almost 50 years ago.

Is the astral 'real'?

There is definitely something there. I have astral'd a few times and there is something other than the world we live in.

The impression I got from Monroe's descriptions is something like, where we go when we leave is like a huge fog bank and every so often, scattered here and there, we can find 'worlds' where more able Beings have set up their own little world. Apparently Earth is special for complexity and realism and there are 'tours' run for Beings to come have a look at it, but there are astral spots that have different levels of complexity, including some that are clearly traps. For example there seem to be levels for sex addicts and horror levels - if you expect to go to Hell then you find one of those - but there is also the implication that when you have run the program long enough you can simply leave and restart your growth.

There is the possibility all Monroe experienced was imagination, not 'real' in any sense but that's not the impression I got reading the books. He seemed quite clear about which levels were alternates and which were part of the wholeness.

So, to put at least some of it together... we seem to be particles of Beingness who have a Self and not much more. When we get to a point where we need something else, there are places we can find and enter to learn and grow. Earth is one such place and is special compared to many places, but there are alternatives. Those alternatives might be places we 'visit' when we dream, where we seem to live complex lives that are strangely different to earth lives - the rules might be different or the technology or the environment etc.

Earth is apparently addictive - some of the Beings in Monroe's experiences were clamouring to get back into a life - there was a line at the processing station of Beings waiting for bodies. But there is a 'forget' clause that Beings have to agree to (except maybe the 'elite' don't have to?) and there is a puzzle about that - who could impose such a thing?

I think, to get to the mechanics of it, the processing station attaches the Being to a field, which is either the Mind or one of the fields we see attached to the body. I tend to the latter as I think perhaps the Mind is more like something the Being develops with experience, a kind of recording area for experience that shapes who the Being becomes in this life.

Perhaps the addictiveness comes from the sheer depth of complexity of being in a body - the trillions of processing units (cells) along with the control of complex fields and the richness of the input. I must say, in reading Monroe's work I kept being reminded of Number 5, (Johnny 5) the robot who kept rolling around looking for 'input, input.' :D (movies were called Short Circuit)

There is also in Monroe's work, a place he is not allowed to go, a place that seems to be where Beings go when they reach a level of knowledge? power? ability? that lies behind a barrier. That's maybe the part I am least confident in because it sounds a little like an adaptation to the Christian Heaven and so maybe Monroe still had some of his 'this life' programming going on - but equally that might just be my suspicious nature recoiling from any suggestion of Religion. :D
 
Every so often, something strange happens once one gets involved is speculations about source or examinations of human make up. Recently i have been having what I call 'Story' dreams, dreams where I am in a self-consistent story, usually nothing to do with my life or even any life that might be possible on Earth.

It is most puzzling to wake up semi-convinced THIS world is strange and abnormal and with the attitudes and expectations of a different world.

A regular occurrence are dreams about a city, often named as one we know of but nothing like those places, and not usually one I have visited. e.g. the same dream (or very close to it) happens in Peking or Djakarta or maybe Lima or Rio etc. The common factor is they are normally 2nd or 3rd world places, not modern western cities.

In these places I usually speak the local language and I travel across the city looking for (usually) an old lady to learn something. (occasionally it's an old man) At some point I get lost and have to try to work out how to get back to where I need to be. Sometimes (maybe all the time but sometimes I don't recall it) I meet the person I am seeking before I get lost, sometimes I have to ask and find out how to find them. But when I need to find my way I seem to suddenly have very limited language skills.

I have no idea what these might mean as dreams, but I do wonder about the srouce of them - they tend to be very real while I am in them and the structure has internal consistency to the point it feels like a life I am living, not just a scene I am visiting.

I wonder if these are Astral in nature - could I be 'visiting' someone's astral creation that is similar to an earth-style creation?

I have other 'real' dreams on occasion - dreams where the detail is finely displayed and that are normally just every-day in nature. The problem is, a couple of years later I will be in exactly that situation!

The detail is what makes these dreams stand out which is why I tend to recall them. The deja vu experience is extremely strong and very finely triggered. e.g. once I was sitting in a lounge in a place in Sydney; we'd moved the BBQ inside due to weather. I was playing chess. Nothing triggered until my opponent moved his Queen and his wife walked around the divider with snacks - THEN I recalled the dream I'd have 2 years before, in Perth.

I am unsure if the deja vu feeling is somehow reaching back to the earlier me and causing the dreams or whether the earlier me is reaching forward, but it has happened WAY too many times to be just my imagination or the normal 'consensus' explanation for deja vu. (that it's an artefact of brain activity and has no actual reality)

And it is puzzling just why they are almost never significant moments, just ordinary daily-type activity.

But these sorts of events are what started me back into a spiritual mode; although I was already feeling let down by what people were doing with Science, I was still very Solid-oriented. Until I began trying to understand why I had these dreams...
 
Yes, investigation into the unknown enters the dream perhaps, and dreams, ime leak into reality especially with deja vu. I've been having dreams again where I am trying to get home, yet in waking life I know this is not real.. there is no home to go to again.. in a way, mere illusion. Perhaps to revisit… but I've done that… and these homes are not mine anyways - I've never seen them in the reality I speak in now. :)
Sometimes this feeling (if that) enters my dreams. Traveling mostly, but not sure where… and if it's something Jung used to talk about, like our basement subconscious archetypes .. and maybe not even from my own life in the dreams but another traveler, or time?

There is no way out of the dream perhaps 
we are a dreamt character … and all maps out are simply ways back in, maybe? We can still investigate.
(Have more to add on last comment.. who is 'me' and who is reaching back or forward? The only way I used to make these experiences solid was to paint them, make them real. But yeah, might just be brain activity artifact.

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On previous comments above. I would indeed be more inclined to believe we are occupied via outside energies, or non physical beings that come here and live within us, or arrive in the womb.
Interesting you mention 'elseness.' I often use the word ISness, but perhaps allowing ourselves to have these traveling experiences (mentioned above), is part of the ISness as well… in seeking something outside of ourselves that could often reside within us. Out of our physical realm, that is. People have been attempting this for years.

We seek relief as young children even, trying to alter our consciousness in simply mere 'play'…. being on a merry go round, or swinging very high on a swing set. With addiction, for me it’s indeed about the body (+bio/psycho/social) … being in it 'seemingly' (from this viewpoint), that has historically wanted to escape human form.
Non duality (yet another belief system), might postulate it's a mental construct … or mere illusion. Also, The energy is there… in the body. Proof visually exists, even tho we can't see it. Most of us. There is a percentage of the body upon death that has not been accounted for yet. We just don't know. What’s that, where does it go, does it travel or just another story? Many stories one truth,,,, hmmm.

As far as astral traveling, I am wondering if more than 25 % as Monroe postulates having OBE (in modern terms), is true. Perhaps people just 'don't know' they are having the experience in delta sleep. Or better said, they don't remember.
I’ve had 2 of these astral type experiences, and I know they are real (what is real? true), as they were real 'to me' and that is valid. Subjective.
What is real and felt to the individual and 'happens' to them is an experience, so it's likely not to be false. Of course the mind 'can' exclude the experience, or interpret it as not happening distrusting the experience via relying on outside authorities, or feel like we are inherently flawed, different … might have some mental health disorder. Or, it's only imagination. What is real asked the rabbit one day?

I've had dreams where I was flying about my house and over the ocean where I resided. The difference is in the dreams I didn't see my body, nor have a 'choice' - this is how I know the difference. In the OBE I could see my body on the bed as well as my cat sleeping there, and I was floating near the open window with the sun shining through as it began to rain. It wasn't raining when I went to sleep. I almost left through the window, but I decided (choice), to go back into my body, as I didn't know if I left my physical self, if I could come back… When I awoke it was raining.

Then again there are pineal gland experiences and those that travel on drugs… outside induced traveling and it this considered real? And how is this tied into it happening without outside stimulation. Perhaps what is real isn't the physical. We give too much emphasis on this, but this is where we are at now.

I do recollect the movie Short Circuit, interesting metaphor.
Colin Wilson discusses how we are robots and need to be jerked out of this robotic state. To me this is genetics, conditioning in this lifetime. Survival mode… Perhaps a blocking out of the only… or consciousness, or truth ought I say? A separating oneself from this life on earth. Coping in unhealthy fashion. I don't know but it's interesting to keep an open mind, as long as I don't lose myself as I know in my waking state of 'this' reality. :)
 
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Was Monroe religious at one point? Upbringing? This could be just lifetime conditioning that crosses over with what he sees traveling, his thought streams that sets one up for misery ... a self fulfilling prophecy that is only human (and somewhat delusional). Based on what you mentioned in last paragraph before. Unresolved issues so to speak, some that we have in dreams. :)
Aside from ^, religious stuff… I would say he has traveled. :

Anyways, fascinating. I want to travel again… I think there I am blocked..
 
I think Monroe had the usual 'Religion' upbringing. I don't recall him mentioning it but it would be a rare person back then who DIDN'T get churchified. Certainly some of his contacts were clearly in the normal realm of Religion because he was concerned about them finding out about his astral-travelling ways... :D But I don't think he was 'into' religion as in a minister or similar.

Look into Hemisync for ways to help with 'travelling' and also learning to use energy around your body can help. Also you should be able to get a system that combined hemisync or holosync with LED glasses - the idea is the sound and visuals are synchronised and increase the entrainment effect. I have an older version that was called Mind Machine but the company moved on into EEG and neurofeedback systems - they were in Germany anyway so postage could bite...

If you get the system instead of just hemisync downloads, you can design your own 'travel' itinerary - you can add music or sounds to the binaural effects and also underlay it with voice that guides you even in Delta to where you wish to 'travel.' :D
 
Tyvm fellow traveler. I am not a body type, can often float elsewhere - looking to reconnect with my natural energies in healthy ways, spiritually. I relate. For me nothing used to exist without proof, today I have a another perspective, new lens. Yet, not a deluded specific religious church like god.

I wonder if people that have firm beliefs have deluded dreams. Not that I can't be deluded myself and I appreciate other's beliefs, but just those they 'think' they know truth. How do they dream? I think living in the unknown (which resonates with me to some of the awareness and unawareness of your dreams of the 'reaching' you mention), could have deeper potential to be open to more elaborate dreams in dream state and waking reality, as well as traveling… without those hardened religious constructs.

Growing up with religious beliefs, not to say non religion could be religious to some, would narrow one's dream potential, blocking it maybe. Having an answer etc in real life, makes for a better dream state, 'seemingly'
Oh, on a tangent..

Anywho,

I will investigate the downloads. You actually included a link once, I still have it. :P)
I've done Tai Chi and this is where I began to notice energy, long ago…
 
You can use 'energy hands' to stimulate areas of the body and (hopefully) release energy blocks that can cause problems. Harry Oldfield shows the energy flows of a dog that he then works on using one of his active crystals - the flows definitely change and I doubt we could blame the dog for placebo effect. :D

The energy hands thing is a bit oddball - you try to feel hands and arms that are not your physical ones - a bit like the amputees who can still feel the missing limbs. Then you use those energy hands to stroke along skin, perhaps legs, or maybe around the scalp etc. It's weird but after a while there are distinct sensations in the parts you concentrate on - note you are not actually touching the body at all, just using (what some might call) imagination to simulate stroking.

Another way to expose and smooth blocks is to use EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) if you can't find it, PM me - I know after the main guy died his family went commercial on it, but the manual (all you need) used to be a free download. EFT uses what seems to be a modified acupuncture technique (or acupressure is probably more accurate) to bring forward trauma or other causes of emotional pain - once this is done there is often a radical change in illness or other body problems.

I think a strong belief in a given dogma DOES change dreams, even if o0nly through rejection. When I was growing up there were any number of people in the church who would talk about having evil dreams and praying to get rid of them. I would think actively trying to reject dreams of particular content would be as effective as trying to dream of answers for a problem etc. i.e. it might not work the 1st time or 2 but eventually you DO get the dreams you are wanting.

Personally I still want evidence, if not proof, but the types of evidence I will accept have broadened. From the placebo effect to the observer effect we have ample evidence that what we think or expect can radically alter outcomes.

So when I see (say) Randi loudly bragging how he never sees real evidence, that says more about him than it does the poor victims of his ruthless approach. e.g. there was a girl who claimed she could (I think it was) read minds, but she was anxiety-prone and would do her thing from a separate room - Ranid made her sit in with groups of people and perform to his demands - clearly more interested in keeping hold of his million than actually finding evidence of Psi or ESP.

Physicists might have brought in the idea of an observer being important or even essential to events, but they very rarely do double-blind experiments. After reading Nature and SciAm for 40+ years I came to realise they mostly will not follow their own advice because they want the results they are expecting - for most, non-locality and other 'spooky' actions are anathema.

It has to do with how Science has altered across the past half century or so. Once upon a time, basic research was considered not just worth the investment, but probably the best possible investment - it almost ALWAYS pays off. Now, to get funding, a scientist has to put in a proposal not just of what they wish to investigate, but what they expect to find.

Take the money and come back with a negative result and you're highly likely NOT to get any further funding. So there is pressure to always get the results you said you would find. Getting a result that says, "there is no such effect" will get a new result - no more work.
 
Thank you for the tips. For these therapeutic methodologies, one needs to be very open minded, sometimes even to placebo I would imagine. Have you tried them?

I was working with a wholistic type chiropractor (most stagnation and stored injury trauma is in my neck, disc degeneration/scoliosis/stenosis etc) We all have something I’m no different. :P) Anyways they barely touch you, the chiropractic clinicians. They use techniques to move the energy around in the body. I did this for a while, it was somewhat helpful but I still use my cmt that is more hands on and less expensive. I'll look into what you mention. I use other techniques myself at home.

BTW: Do you write? You express yourself very well with the written word, it just seems to flow.

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Well said about religion. Attempting to reject dogmatic type dreams won’t keep them away.
The mind's movement to disregard something held above or fearful, while sleeping would seemingly make it worse. With fear, ime it's better to embrace, or integrate these archetypal visions or shadows through transcendence, in order for them to be let go of, 'not' to put up a wall of rejections as they will remain in that space, unseen … but there, and continue to emerge and agitate the agent seeing them

I grew up in a Catholic household, with my grandparents in a carnival – lots of threatening religious nonsense, sadism, abuse. Ok now, just my observations. Faulty messages about god… authority issues via faulty programming. " If this, then that " type stuff. "If you do that you will go to HELL." "If you do well … god will love you." Pray on your knees and so on" A lot of hocus pocus. My dad (oldest of 7 children), told me he used to see a little devil creature sitting on his door every night watching him sleep.

Yet, on other side of family I used to go to Krishnamurti talks .. and this is when I began to understand another way of moving through the world, without religion. He would say, " reject all authority " -or- " One is never afraid of the unknown; one is afraid of the known coming to an end. "
I began to see how religion was truly based on authority, fear and a lot of misleading truisms. "Truth is a pathless land… is another one."
Of course any guru has his own past into his teaching to an extent, but just some of his talks woke me up a little… from the dream like state my family seemed to be living with sin, confession and Sunday church.

He never got into synchronicity though, nor understood some broader understandings…. like unexplained happenings, of events that appear significantly related but have no connection.

In this and from others I have learned from, I began to see how beliefs destroy the mind and being. Even atheism to an extent… shuts off possibility in a way
What is thought or expected can indeed change our outcomes, but can also set us up for loss. This is tricky, cos magical type thinking for example, or false hope… or even 'hope' in itself can reside in ignorance ime. On the other hand it can help one heal even based on faulty premises. The brain can actually release pleasure chemicals if one is in denial… or clinging to hope to avoid pain. Mind is so powerful. As you mention placebo basically. I've seen folks that seem to be very deluded and happy, as they think they have ‘the’ answer. They might say I am the deluded one. Perhaps it doesn't matter. :)
 
BTW, I can expand more anther time, but I know of this Randi person, good example.
Growing up in a carnival for me is an example… with magic. I knew the tricks behind the illusion of the games I worked in, but people believed they were real magic, sometimes… and enjoyed the game regardless if it was wired to take their money out of their pockets.

I try to remain intellectually open to what hasn't been proven… For me it's important to understand one's own mind, feelings, actions.. desires (fantasy or real) and biases… Not in a dissociated detached witness state, but more with a participating observant type of awareness of oneself in the world in relations to others.
I am a healthy skeptic to some degree, but remaining open to the unknown. To not assign meaning to happenings is freeing in some ways, but boring in others. It's not always, necessary ... but can be fun. Depends on the context.

I am not familiar with Nature and SciAm but I do follow you.. I have studied a little psychology, but not so much science.
I'm not a psychologist but most of my practice was under MFTs. Which was quite insightful to my own upbringing. :)
 
You might like to read Alfred Korzybski's Science and Sanity. It lays out a Non-Aristotelian system for dealing with being a human.

Mind you it is heavy reading - clearly there was disdain for the lay person back then. :D You could see if you can get hold of A.E. van Vogt's Null-A books. 'The World of Null-A' and 'The Pawns of Null-A' explore what it might be like to be trained in Null-A (non-Aristotelian) systems and to have it take hold in a society.

Worth a read...
 
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