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Mr_Fluffykins
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some people are dumb as shit, and think breast feeding is "some shit out of national geographic", breast feeding is a natural and beautiful thing, and the proper way for children to grow up, specifically it has antibodies and such that just aren't in formula, but some people are stupid
addictivepersona
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Not only do some people grow up viewing that breast feeding is "gross," "unnatural," or "antiquated," some mother's go back to their unhealthy diet/lifestyle after giving birth.
I hear ya though: It's SO much easier to breast feed than bottle. I don't know from firsthand experience, but I've been around people who have breast fed and those who have bottle fed.
I can understand giving the infant formula if it's away from the mother all day, but isn't that the point of breast pumps? To pump milk for when you won't be around the baby?
I hear ya though: It's SO much easier to breast feed than bottle. I don't know from firsthand experience, but I've been around people who have breast fed and those who have bottle fed.
I can understand giving the infant formula if it's away from the mother all day, but isn't that the point of breast pumps? To pump milk for when you won't be around the baby?
poopie
Bluelighter
Because it's a mother's right to choose what to feed her baby.
Some women just spent 9 months carrying their child and would like the freedom of formula. Some mothers prefer to not have cracked bleeding nipples.
Formula is a healthy choice for babies. More studies are showing that breastmilk and formula are about even in benefits. Just this year a study showed that infection rate was equal between breastfed babies and formula fed babies. Also, the CDC recommends breastfeeding for the first 12 months. The WHO recommends it for the first two years. Not that many Western women continue with breastfeeding this long.
None of my brothers, nor I, were breastfed. It was my mom's choice. Luckily, with her last son, she did choose formula. He was born with an enzyme deficiency (galactosemia) and breastmilk would have been far more harmful.
Some women just spent 9 months carrying their child and would like the freedom of formula. Some mothers prefer to not have cracked bleeding nipples.
Formula is a healthy choice for babies. More studies are showing that breastmilk and formula are about even in benefits. Just this year a study showed that infection rate was equal between breastfed babies and formula fed babies. Also, the CDC recommends breastfeeding for the first 12 months. The WHO recommends it for the first two years. Not that many Western women continue with breastfeeding this long.
None of my brothers, nor I, were breastfed. It was my mom's choice. Luckily, with her last son, she did choose formula. He was born with an enzyme deficiency (galactosemia) and breastmilk would have been far more harmful.
Jamshyd
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One thing I personally wonder about, and that is that I have no doubt that breast-milk contains more than one hormone. Seeing that breast-feeding is a natural phase of mammals' life cycles, I wonder if the lack of exposure to these hormones has any effect (positive or negative) on the baby's development?
MynameisnotDeja
Bluelight Crew
I don't know why. I think it borders on child neglect to not feed your child from your breasts if you are able. It is just selfish. Sorry to offend everyone but that is what I believe.
addictivepersona
Bluelight Crew
Breast milk does contain a compound that, if microwaved, may become harmful. <---I know this doesn't quite relate to the topic at hand, but figured I'd throw this out there just in case someone's reading this and thinking about microwaving breast milk.
I think the lowered rates of breast-feeding have an impact on the amount of allergies children now have. This is just my opinion as I have no scientific evidence supporting my claim, but think about it: There are children with so many allergies nowadays compared to 30 years ago. Compared to 30 years ago, more babies were probably breast-fed.
Mr_Fluffykins
Bluelighter
the milks in your tits, if the milks in your tits, why let it go to waste, theres starving africans that could use the formula too
MynameisnotDeja
Bluelight Crew
Despite whether you think it is morally wrong or not, it's just so strange to me to spend money for formula when FREE FOOD for the baby comes out of your body.
ocean
Bluelight Crew
I won't be able to breastfeed- and my mother didn't breast feed me or my brother.
I don't see anything wrong with either choice-
Formula now is made to be just like breas tmilk.
In the 80's (when I was born and my brother) they did not include DHA, which is one thing you get from breast milk that is important to a child's brain development (among other benefits)- and really caused many people to view breastfeeding as the superior choice. Now it is included in formula.....there are also soy or lactose free options which are nice.
I think, to each their own- for whatever reasons a person chooses, I see nothing wrong with either choice. Every mother wants the best for her child, and will educate herself before making the decision, I am sure.....and by recent studies, the improvements in formula have made it a fine alternative to the breast.
I don't see anything wrong with either choice-
Formula now is made to be just like breas tmilk.
In the 80's (when I was born and my brother) they did not include DHA, which is one thing you get from breast milk that is important to a child's brain development (among other benefits)- and really caused many people to view breastfeeding as the superior choice. Now it is included in formula.....there are also soy or lactose free options which are nice.
I think, to each their own- for whatever reasons a person chooses, I see nothing wrong with either choice. Every mother wants the best for her child, and will educate herself before making the decision, I am sure.....and by recent studies, the improvements in formula have made it a fine alternative to the breast.
Formula is not just like breast milk. when the mother breastfeeds, her antibodies pass thru the milk into her child, which helps the baby develop immunity and breast fed babies have less problems with many illnesses and common problems for babies becuz of this. Hormones also pass thru the breast milk to the baby that promotes bonding with the mother. You cant get those things from formula.
It seems like a lot of people who think that formula is a better or equal option aint totally aware of the differences between breast milk and formula and believe that they are the same thing. Its actually ILLEGAL to market formula as being equal to or better than breast milk, did yall know that? There is international regulations that restricts the kind of advertising that formula companies can do , and they aint allowed to make claims that formula is "just as good as breast milk" or say anything makin it seem like its better.
It aint a matter of opinion, factually, scienfically, breast milk is the healthier option if you are able to and your baby is able to drink breast milk. There aint no disagreement or debate about it, its the recognized fact by doctors and scientists these days. there is over 13,000 studies that support this.
I aint saying that people who feed their baby formula are some kind of demon or some shit. If you think formula is good, fine, you want to give it to your baby, that is fine--but just dont make no mistake about it that breast milk is the better option if its possible. They aint equal, they aint "just the same", they aint nothing like that, there is significant, clear differences between both of them and formula lacks certain things in breast milk that promotes the babys health, shit that cant be reproduced. You cant put mothers antibodies and immunity in formula, you cant put the hormones that helps the mother and baby bond in the formula. they may be pretty similar as far as the calories, as far as the nutrition content goes, but they absolutely aint the same overall, and i think a lot of people dont know that.
If you cant breast feed you just cant do it. it aint your fault. you aint a bad person for givin formula to your baby cuz its the best you can do and you just do your best, its all you can do. But honestly, yea, I do feel that it is selfish not to if you are able, Deja, I am with you here. it just gives me a big giant "does not compute" in my brain when i try to imagine why would a person choose not to. Like its some kind of awful thing.
I think most of those ideas tho, come from the propaganda shit that the formula companies spread in the 60s and 70s. peoples moms grew up bein told formula was just as good as breast milk or better and then passed that on to their kids who are usually the only people i see who defend it.
It seems like a lot of people who think that formula is a better or equal option aint totally aware of the differences between breast milk and formula and believe that they are the same thing. Its actually ILLEGAL to market formula as being equal to or better than breast milk, did yall know that? There is international regulations that restricts the kind of advertising that formula companies can do , and they aint allowed to make claims that formula is "just as good as breast milk" or say anything makin it seem like its better.
It aint a matter of opinion, factually, scienfically, breast milk is the healthier option if you are able to and your baby is able to drink breast milk. There aint no disagreement or debate about it, its the recognized fact by doctors and scientists these days. there is over 13,000 studies that support this.
I aint saying that people who feed their baby formula are some kind of demon or some shit. If you think formula is good, fine, you want to give it to your baby, that is fine--but just dont make no mistake about it that breast milk is the better option if its possible. They aint equal, they aint "just the same", they aint nothing like that, there is significant, clear differences between both of them and formula lacks certain things in breast milk that promotes the babys health, shit that cant be reproduced. You cant put mothers antibodies and immunity in formula, you cant put the hormones that helps the mother and baby bond in the formula. they may be pretty similar as far as the calories, as far as the nutrition content goes, but they absolutely aint the same overall, and i think a lot of people dont know that.
If you cant breast feed you just cant do it. it aint your fault. you aint a bad person for givin formula to your baby cuz its the best you can do and you just do your best, its all you can do. But honestly, yea, I do feel that it is selfish not to if you are able, Deja, I am with you here. it just gives me a big giant "does not compute" in my brain when i try to imagine why would a person choose not to. Like its some kind of awful thing.
I think most of those ideas tho, come from the propaganda shit that the formula companies spread in the 60s and 70s. peoples moms grew up bein told formula was just as good as breast milk or better and then passed that on to their kids who are usually the only people i see who defend it.
Roger&Me
Bluelighter
I definitely agree with Lacey. Formula is inferior to breast milk.
When you think about it, a newborn baby is only recently a separate entity from their mother. When they drink their mother's breast milk, they are drinking a nutrient solution designed by nature specifically for them-- dispensed by a body they were recently a part of. You can't find anything more suited to a baby's health and well-being than that.
It may not make a huge overall difference in the child's life whether you breastfeed or not, but it's just a really good thing to do for your baby. It reduces the likelyhood that they'll spend their early years sick and feeling crummy, and it helps them feel closer to their mothers which can be considered the most valuable thing in the universe for a baby.
I think its a good thing to do if its a viable option.
When you think about it, a newborn baby is only recently a separate entity from their mother. When they drink their mother's breast milk, they are drinking a nutrient solution designed by nature specifically for them-- dispensed by a body they were recently a part of. You can't find anything more suited to a baby's health and well-being than that.
It may not make a huge overall difference in the child's life whether you breastfeed or not, but it's just a really good thing to do for your baby. It reduces the likelyhood that they'll spend their early years sick and feeling crummy, and it helps them feel closer to their mothers which can be considered the most valuable thing in the universe for a baby.
I think its a good thing to do if its a viable option.
MynameisnotDeja
Bluelight Crew
Well put, thanks.
TINK
Bluelighter
When I was pregnant, I chose not to breast feed for some of the reasons poopie mentioned. I have extremely sensitive nipples and I just couldn't bare the thought oh the chaffing and cracking...etc.
And, also if you have any medical conditions and are on medications, sometimes you don't have a choce because the drugs pass through breatmilk.
And, also if you have any medical conditions and are on medications, sometimes you don't have a choce because the drugs pass through breatmilk.
Yea, i already mentioned that i understand there is medical reasons for not doing it sometimes.
I also know that certain medications can be a problem...depending on which ones they are , some can be stopped. For example I am prescribed adderall and stopped takin it when i found out i was pregnant, and i would love to be able to go back on it when i have the baby. It really was a huge help to me and made a incredible difference in the way i got shit done, becuz i was severely affected by adult ADD. But Ima just make that sacrifice and not take it til the baby is done breastfeeding becuz its more important to me to give him the best than i can. thats just how i feel. But obviously certain meds you cant just stop and it aint a choice. Thats the type of shit i was referrin to when i mentioned that i know there are medical reasons.
Im just curious how people know that their nipples will be cracked and raw and chapped if they never tried breastfeeding before? That dont happen to all women. it aint like some kind of definite thing that will absolutely happen to everybody. And there are plenty of treatments and ways to prevent it. Without intending no disrespect to you tink, just talkin in general, the "i dont want to get chapped nipples" excuse seems like kind of a weak reason to me since its something thats so easy to treat and aint even necessarily something that WILL happen, you feel me? If somebody starts it and cant stand it and has extreme problems with it and they try a bunch of treatments and nothing helps, and wants to stop, then that makes sense to me even tho I would not personally go that way. but to just not even try it altogether just becuz you are afraid you might have that issue, when it aint something that you can even expect to happen in the first place dont make sense to me, you dont even know that it will be a problem, it might not happen to you at all and it aint some kind of untreatable incurable problem that nothing can soothe, so it seems odd to me that some women avoid breastfeeding just for that reason alone.
Even in that case if you have those issues and cant deal with them why not just pump your breast milk to avoid those problems so you can still give the baby the benefits of breast milk? Im curious why more mothers who dont want to breast FEED for titty health related reasons dont just pump the milk so they can get around any hangups they might have actually breast feeding while still giving the better food source to their baby.
I also know that certain medications can be a problem...depending on which ones they are , some can be stopped. For example I am prescribed adderall and stopped takin it when i found out i was pregnant, and i would love to be able to go back on it when i have the baby. It really was a huge help to me and made a incredible difference in the way i got shit done, becuz i was severely affected by adult ADD. But Ima just make that sacrifice and not take it til the baby is done breastfeeding becuz its more important to me to give him the best than i can. thats just how i feel. But obviously certain meds you cant just stop and it aint a choice. Thats the type of shit i was referrin to when i mentioned that i know there are medical reasons.
Im just curious how people know that their nipples will be cracked and raw and chapped if they never tried breastfeeding before? That dont happen to all women. it aint like some kind of definite thing that will absolutely happen to everybody. And there are plenty of treatments and ways to prevent it. Without intending no disrespect to you tink, just talkin in general, the "i dont want to get chapped nipples" excuse seems like kind of a weak reason to me since its something thats so easy to treat and aint even necessarily something that WILL happen, you feel me? If somebody starts it and cant stand it and has extreme problems with it and they try a bunch of treatments and nothing helps, and wants to stop, then that makes sense to me even tho I would not personally go that way. but to just not even try it altogether just becuz you are afraid you might have that issue, when it aint something that you can even expect to happen in the first place dont make sense to me, you dont even know that it will be a problem, it might not happen to you at all and it aint some kind of untreatable incurable problem that nothing can soothe, so it seems odd to me that some women avoid breastfeeding just for that reason alone.
Even in that case if you have those issues and cant deal with them why not just pump your breast milk to avoid those problems so you can still give the baby the benefits of breast milk? Im curious why more mothers who dont want to breast FEED for titty health related reasons dont just pump the milk so they can get around any hangups they might have actually breast feeding while still giving the better food source to their baby.
8L4YN3
Bluelighter
I beleive women should breastfeed, but lol i'd never tell one this. To me, like my best mate just had a kid, well his girlfriend.. They bottle feed, i assume out of selfishness and lazyness.
But then on the other hand i see where these girls are coming from they just spent 9 months carrying around a growing fucking fetus, gave birth and now feel as though breastfeeding will land them with even more work where as bottle feeding, the dad can get up and make the bottle while mum stays in bed ect..
But yeah i honestly think it's just laziness, it's the choice you make to become a fucking mother, you should take all the bad with the good.(well it really shouldn't even be perceived as "bad" perhaps difficult)
Another issue i'd like to bring to light (upon further thought of my friends' situation) is women opting to get a fucking cesarean section done just to avoid vaginal birth... It's a growing trend..
Mothers... they dont make em like they used to eh. But i dont know, Lacey K are you a male or female? Because i dont think males really have a say in this unless it's their child, we dont know what it's like to be pregnant..
But then on the other hand i see where these girls are coming from they just spent 9 months carrying around a growing fucking fetus, gave birth and now feel as though breastfeeding will land them with even more work where as bottle feeding, the dad can get up and make the bottle while mum stays in bed ect..
But yeah i honestly think it's just laziness, it's the choice you make to become a fucking mother, you should take all the bad with the good.(well it really shouldn't even be perceived as "bad" perhaps difficult)
Another issue i'd like to bring to light (upon further thought of my friends' situation) is women opting to get a fucking cesarean section done just to avoid vaginal birth... It's a growing trend..
Mothers... they dont make em like they used to eh. But i dont know, Lacey K are you a male or female? Because i dont think males really have a say in this unless it's their child, we dont know what it's like to be pregnant..
HoneyRoastedPeanut
Bluelighter
I gotta agree that unless it's medical condition or other special case, just choosing not to breastfeed is lazy and a disservice to the child.
The justifications of "well she just carried a baby for a whole nine months, it's her choice" is bullshit to me. You just gave birth and you're already looking for ways to cut corners? Seems people don't realize that having a child means you're putting them ahead of yourself for the next two decades.
The justifications of "well she just carried a baby for a whole nine months, it's her choice" is bullshit to me. You just gave birth and you're already looking for ways to cut corners? Seems people don't realize that having a child means you're putting them ahead of yourself for the next two decades.
ocean
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I really doubt that anyone actually chooses to bottle feed out of laziness.
This thread is sadly not about sharing opinions on breastfeeding, there is a lot of insulting and bad mouthing people who choose to not breast feed- Whatever their reason is, it is their choice.
Just like abortion. I may not agree with it but I would not be bad mouthing someone, calling them selfish and lazy and whatever else b/c they made a choice that is right for them.
I can appreciate being given information like
But insulting others over a personal choice is not exactly the makings of a good thread.
Who is going to want to come in here and have a differing opinion when they've already been attacked?
This thread is sadly not about sharing opinions on breastfeeding, there is a lot of insulting and bad mouthing people who choose to not breast feed- Whatever their reason is, it is their choice.
Just like abortion. I may not agree with it but I would not be bad mouthing someone, calling them selfish and lazy and whatever else b/c they made a choice that is right for them.
I can appreciate being given information like
But insulting others over a personal choice is not exactly the makings of a good thread.
Who is going to want to come in here and have a differing opinion when they've already been attacked?
BrotherSport
Bluelighter
Formula being "just like breast milk" is pure bullshit propaganda thrown by the big food companies.
Many studies show breastfeeding leads to higher IQ in babies :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17984066
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188802
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14630603
Of course IQ isn't everything.
But to me it is a clear sign that you shouldn't mess with nature. Who knows what else we may find out about in some studies to come.
Thanks to evolution we are able to breastfeed our babies. I wouldn't risk poisoning mine because "I don't have time" or "It's gross" or whatever...
Many studies show breastfeeding leads to higher IQ in babies :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17984066
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188802
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14630603
Of course IQ isn't everything.
But to me it is a clear sign that you shouldn't mess with nature. Who knows what else we may find out about in some studies to come.
Thanks to evolution we are able to breastfeed our babies. I wouldn't risk poisoning mine because "I don't have time" or "It's gross" or whatever...
ocean
Bluelight Crew
^I'm not trying to say formula is better or anything b/c Lacey has a point about certain hormones and antibodies- but the articles above are from 07 and before and while DHA/ARA were added in like '03 I believe?- More formula companies started following suit afterwards..........
Those articles studies may have been from before that.
Still though- Currently, The APA, AMA and ADA all agree that breastfeeding is better.
But I wouldn't go so far as to say you are 'poisoning' your child by not breastfeeding........
Those articles studies may have been from before that.
Still though- Currently, The APA, AMA and ADA all agree that breastfeeding is better.
But I wouldn't go so far as to say you are 'poisoning' your child by not breastfeeding........
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