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The Big & Dandy Tripping & Anxiety Thread

Psychedelics aren't for everyone. I tripped on acid literally hundereds of times when I was younger. Quality stuff and did some ridiculously high doses too. And I had a few bad trips. Regardless of how well you plan, sometimes they happen. But the majority of them were good times.

In those days I tripped literally every weekend and never had any big problems with it. After a 10-12 year break from psychedelics, I had a very favorable San Pedro experience and then started working with research chems on a weekly basis, sometimes tripping twice each weekend. After about a year, I had a panic attack that landed me in the ER. 8o Not fun. Do a search on panic attacks in this forum and you'll probably see my thread. I was in the middle of a 4-HO-DET peak and though I was dying since I couldn't breathe.

Since then, almost every time I've tried to trip, It's either been anxiety-laden or resulted in another panic attack. However, psychedelics are my drug of choice, so I haven't stopped trying. I fell I'm finally starting to get over my hump.

I believe a lot of my problems were caused by excessive chronic intake of caffeine and ephedrine. I was actually fine during that trip until I smoked a bowl of really kick ass weed and then it got bad quick. Now, I won't even think of touching pot whether I'm tripping or not. My days of pot smoking are over.

If you're a regular user of any stiumulants (even caffeine or pseudoephedrine) maybe you should cut back. I've been off ephedrine for several weeks and now I'm ready to start testing the waters so to speak.

Preferably stop stimulants if you use them and defintely avoid them the day (or two) before you trip. Pot is also a bad idea for mtyself and I think many others also have anxiety with it. I won't even smoke it when I'm not tripping any more. Even just a few tokes when tripping results in a panic attack.

Having a few good doses of a benzo or a sedative on hand in case you need it is a must. As if panic/anxiety attacks aren't bad enough, while on a psychedelic they are terrible. Even just having them on hand is very comforting to me.

Make sure the music you choose to listen to is relaxing as well. I've had music that's too energetic cause anxiety as well even if it was music I would normally enjoy. Just pick some slow, soft, relaxing sutff. Also, whatever you do, don't allow youself to get bored while tripping. That's when the trouble starts for me.

Do a google search on panic attacks and do bit of reading. There's some good info out there on breathing techniques, managing them, etc. Hopefully I'm on my way back. Regarless of the cause of your anxiety, I wish you the best of luck and hope you are able to be comfortable with pshychedelics again. They are an incredible experience.

-gp
 
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And all trips don't necessarily HAVE to be 'productive'. Just try to relax and have a good time with it and quit worrying about what you're NOT getting out if it. It's all good. %) If you have high expectations perhaps they aren't helping in your scenario.

I've got quite a bit of experience with psychedelics, but once you've have a bad time with panic/anxiety while tripping it's VERY hard to break out of it. It's tends to self-perpetuate since you are watching for it to NOT happen on subsequent voyages.

Be good to yourself.

-gp
 
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i suppose i could combat it with some valium
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I Suggest you either stop psychedelics / xtc / ampetamines/ crack (these eare quite anxious substances) for a year (at least 6 month) so it doesn't get worse OR realize that your anxiety has some cause hidden inside yourself where you do not wish to look at... and just find it, without fighting it, just watch deep in yourself, without anger or pride, faer may occur but as I will always say do not fight it (it's natural), do not resit...and just see.
 
and then, on mushrooms, whenever i do them now i just feel anxious.. about something, i don't know what.
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You need to find out.

i suppose i could combat it with some valium
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That will likely further supress the problem, making it harder for you to find out.

If you don't want to give up psychedelics I'd suggest you do a lower dose, and let this anxiety express itself to you, i.e. don't fear it and don't fight it. Eventually it will reveal its self to you.

Another thing you might do is take the time in your sober life to practise and learn some stress reduction techniques, i.e. breathing, meditation, etc. By learning such techniques first while sober, you will have them available to you to help you cope while on a low dose of a psychedelic.

Also, make sure the setting of any trip you do allows you time and space to work on this problem, i.e. not where there will be distraction from others who want your attention for other things.
 
I find that i am always anxiousl on psychedelics ( doesn't stop me from doing them all the time) But a candyflip ( LSD + MDMA) combination gets rid of all the anxiety and makes me feel perfect.
 
i suppose i could combat it with some valium but i'd rather just figure it out. i want to get that first acid trip back. does anyone have any input?
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You'll probably never have an experience quite like your first trip because tripping isn't new anymore.

And as for the anxiety thing... have you considered simply not tripping anymore. Even animals without the ability to reason generally refrain from experiences they know will be unpleasant...
 
lsd when it starts to set in has a very edgy contrary to the myths speedy nature

it could be u got such a low dosage that the only fx u felt were the noddings and hints to a sep reality.......also psychedelics are random and uncalculatable because of the glorious design of the synapses and their infinite bridges....always eat with a clear heart mind n soul.......and once u get the message.....its not necessary to repeat over n over......lsd is for self revelation and spiritual growth......not a wooooohooooo lets get high drug ithink
 
Anxiety on shrooms (benzo?)

Does taking a benzo help with the anxiety you get when you are on "a bad trip" caused from shrooms or acid?
 
it may even help if you don't take them. simply knowing you have a bottle of benzos with you may make you feel more relaxed.
 
Anxiety/Mood Disorders and Psychedelics

I ran a search here on bluelight, found some interesting posts but no hard evidence. Ive also checked MAPS and Erowid without much luck.

Basically I was hoping someone could point me out to some info relating to Manic Depressive, Bi-Polar and their interactions with psychdelics. Preferably I am looking for some hard evidence and studies, along with accurate psychological evaluation of the situation, but any personal experiances would be appreciated too.

The story behind this whole situation being that I have a very close friend, who was briefly institutionalized and diagnosed with Bipolar and Manic Depressive. She has a single experiance with psilo-mushrooms, but wants to continue further. Perhaps even going as far as a low dose of LSD with me.

Personally I was hoping through the right setting and dosage, the two of us could have a very intimate session and help her to work through some of her issues.

Thanks in advanced, sorry this turned out so long!
 
Doesent sound like a great idea to me being that she is dealing with mental issues. LSD is a powerful drug it could make matters alot worse I would suggest maybe 2cb its not quite as powerful hallucination wise compared to acid but def does the trick & it also has similar effects that closely resemble MDMA in my experiance that is. So basically you get good visuals without the paranoia that often accompanys acid . Just my advice what do I know
 
^^and DMT
DPT
5-MeO-DMT

I've tripped pretty hard from bees at least to the point where I had to walk around the block for the rest of the trip but for me it depends on the day really
 
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I ran a search here on bluelight, found some interesting posts but no hard evidence. Ive also checked MAPS and Erowid without much luck.

Basically I was hoping someone could point me out to some info relating to Manic Depressive, Bi-Polar and their interactions with psychdelics. Preferably I am looking for some hard evidence and studies, along with accurate psychological evaluation of the situation, but any personal experiances would be appreciated too.

The story behind this whole situation being that I have a very close friend, who was briefly institutionalized and diagnosed with Bipolar and Manic Depressive. She has a single experiance with psilo-mushrooms, but wants to continue further. Perhaps even going as far as a low dose of LSD with me.

Personally I was hoping through the right setting and dosage, the two of us could have a very intimate session and help her to work through some of her issues.

Thanks in advanced, sorry this turned out so long!
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I would think that if you are careful and prepare well, know your dose, it should be a good thing, however it may take many times to succeed at your goals.
 
^Agreed, but I think it would be wise to let your friend decide what the set and setting should be.I dont know about you or what your relationship with this friend is but making my emotional issues the focusing point of a trip would definately make me a little sketchy, maybe even counterproductive.

Good luck.
 
Anxiety on Psychedelics Partially from Vertigo/Dizziness

So I saw recently that some of the concurrent effects of dizzyness and vertigo, even when it's only an inner ear disorder, are panic attack and anxiety, in folks who've never been diagnosed with any psychiatric disorder. I know that a strong psychedelic experience can cause one to experience effects similar to vertigo, where the world is spinning or rotating constantly.. Could this actually be where some of the anxiety on trips stems from? It seems as if vertigo actually causes a NE-esque fight-or-flight reaction in and of itself when experienced.
 
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