The Big & Dandy Psychedelic Books Thread

[Dragynfyr]

http://www.erowid.org/donations/project_shulgin.php

I just sent £50, I suggest we all have a whip round...

How did you do that?

If you would like to make a targeted contribution to support the Shulgin Collection project, enter the value of your donation below. Minimum donations for this project are $500.

I just sent them my info, I'm sure they have tons of help requests coming in but it would be such an honor to be able to help make this Index a reality

 

[Twigs]

Also all the made up names that make no sense. Mephedrone, Methedrone, Flephedrone, etc.

There is actually a little bit of sense in these names.
It comes from the synonym for methcathinone: "ephedrone"

Mephedrone being p-methyl-ephedrone
Flephedrone being p-fluoro-ephedrone

Methedrone doesn't make sense though...

 

[hugo24]

It sounds very cool,thats sense enough here %)

 

[thefantomfreak]

^ Didn't see that bit.. sounds great! I bet loads of people have signed up, hope I'm not too late! It would be really interesting!

I randomly stumbled into this thread, but I just wanted to let you know that there aren't many people working on it. For a better part of this year I was the only one doing anything with it.

It's kind of tedious, most of the pages are charts of date/amt/effects, but occasionally you get to a subjective report, and they are almost always interesting.

So please sign up! We've got a lot of work left to do. It's all online, so it doesn't matter where you live.

 

[Roose]

The Big and Dandy Psychedelic Books Thread

I'm looking for a good book about the psychedelic drugs and the insight the drugs bring. Was hoping some of you trippers would know :]

 

[B9]

The electric kool aid acid test - if you want scientific mumbo jumbo this book is not for you - if you want full bore taking it to the limits and cutting edge ( dated but still valid imo) thinking then it's well wortn a read

 

[swilow]

^Try True Hallucinations by Terence McKenna, DMT: The Sprt Molecule- Rick Strassman, The Psychedelic Experience by Leary, Alpert and Metzner, The Cosmi Serpent by Jeremy Narby, Supernatural: Meetings With the Ancient Teachers of Mankind BY Graham Hancock, A Shamans Apprentice BY...I can't remember. Take it all with a grain of salt...

I'd say the Book of Tao and the I Chng are better descirptors of the psychedelic experience, also some of the writing of Aleister Crowley (especially on yogic magick....)

HAVE FUN OK??? :D

EDIT: Of course!! The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is a must...

 

[Mike E]

A. Shulgin.

I expect tho, you have read these....

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Here's just a list of books every "psychedelic substance" enthusiast should read, even those who are interested in psychedelics:

"Your Brain Is God" by Timothy Leary

"The Cosmic Serpent" by Jeremy Narby

"Food of the Gods" by Terence McKenna

"Remember, Be Here Now" by Ram Dass

"Marijuana Medicine" by Christian Ratsch

"Flesh of the Gods" edited by Peter Furst

"DMT: The Spirit Molecule" by Dr. Rick Strassman

"The Sacred Mushroom & The Cross" by John Marco Allegro

"The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell" by Aldous Huxley

"Plants of the Gods" by Richard Evans Schultes & Albert Hofmann

"The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth" by John Marco Allegro

"Astrotheology & Shamanism Christianity's Pagan Roots" by by Jan Irvin & Andrew Rutajit

"The Holy Mushroom: Evidence of Mushrooms in Judeo-Christianity" by J.R. Irvin, Jack Herer, Jan Irvin

"Breaking Open the Head: A Psychedelic Journey into the Heart of Contemporary Shamanism" by Daniel Pinchbeck

"The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead (Citadel Underground)" by Karma-Glin-PaBardo

"Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies" by Dr. Rick Strassman

"The Emperor Wears No Clothes: The Authoritative Historical Record of Cannabis and the Conspiracy Against Marijuana" by Jack Herer

"The Archaic Revival: Speculations on Psychedelic Mushrooms, the Amazon, Virtual Reality, UFOs, Evolution, Shamanism, the Rebirth of the Goddess, and the End of History" by Satty

Hope these keep you busy

 

[nearjat]

I have this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Open-Head-Psychedelic-Contemporary/dp/0767907434


The parts I've read are amazing, but I misplaced the book Definitely full of pseudoscience, but still wonderful literature.

And I'm sure you've heard of The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley

Ok looks my contribution has been pwned lol.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

I have this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Open-Head-Psychedelic-Contemporary/dp/0767907434


The parts I've read are amazing, but I misplaced the book Definitely full of pseudoscience, but still wonderful literature.

And I'm sure you've heard of The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley

Ok looks my contribution has been pwned lol.

I would be careful there...

 

[nearjat]

What? By labeling some of it as pseudoscience? It's just fact man, if it can't be proven through experimentation is it isn't a scientific approach. I'm not even saying I oppose any of the less-solid theory's he introduced, but they definitely can't be called science.

 

[B9]

Also Stanislav Grof - I highly rate this guy tho I have read only fragments of his writings - the fragments I read made an impression


Realms Of The Human Unconscious: Observations From LSD Research (1975)
The Human Encounter With Death (1977) with Joan Halifax
LSD Psychotherapy (1980)
Beyond Death: The Gates Of Consciousness (1981) with Christina Grof
Ancient Wisdom And Modern Science (1984) Edited by Stanislav Grof
Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death And Transcendence In Psychotherapy (1985)
Human Survival And Consciousness Evolution (1988) Edited with Marjorie L. Valier
The Adventure Of Self-Discovery: Dimensions of Consciousness And New Perspectives In Psychotherapy (1988)
Spiritual Emergency: When Personal Transformation Becomes A Crisis (1989) Edited with Christina Grof
The Stormy Search For The Self: A Guide To Personal Growth Through Transformative Crisis (1990) with Christina Grof
The Holotropic Mind: The Three levels Of Human Consciousness And How They Shape Our Lives (1992) with Hal Zina Bennet
Books Of The Dead: Manuals For Living And Dying (1993)
The Thirst For Wholeness: Attachment, Addiction And The Spiritual Path (1994) by Christina Grof
The Transpersonal Vision (1998) book and audio
The Cosmic Game: Explorations Of The Frontiers Of Human Consciousness (1998)
The Consciousness Revolution: A Transatlantic Dialogue (1999) with Peter Russell and Ervin Laszlo. Foreword by Ken Wilber
Psychology Of The Future: Lessons From Modern Consciousness Research (2000)
Caterpillar Dreams (2004) with Melody Sullivan
When The Impossible Happens: Adventures In Non-Ordinary Reality (2006)
The Ultimate Journey: Consciousness And The Mystery Of Death (2006)
"New Perspectives in Understanding and Treatment of Emotional Disorders," Chapter 13 in Psychedelic Medicine: New Evidence for Hallucinogens as Treatments, Michael J. Winkelman and Thomas B. Roberts (editors) (2007). Westport, CT: Praeger/Greenwood.
LSD: Doorway to the Numinous: The Groundbreaking Psychedelic Research into Realms of the Human Unconscious (2009)

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

What? By labeling some of it as pseudoscience? It's just fact man, if it can't be proven through experimentation is it isn't a scientific approach. I'm not even saying I oppose any of the less-solid theory's he introduced, but they definitely can't be called science.

If you think about it in that manner, then all science, regardless of whether they conducted "experiments" or not, would still be considered pseudoscience since science is primarily reliant on theories or models.

 

[B9]

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/Files/Books/General/LSD_Psychotherapy-Stanislav_Grof-MISSING_PAGES.pdf - Stan Grof - LSD psychotherapy - online & free

 

[nopipesdfw]

If you think about it in that manner, then all science, regardless of whether they conducted "experiments" or not, would still be considered pseudoscience since science is primarily reliant on theories or models.

Theories and models still need to be able to be testable and repeatable, which is what makes them science.


There's nothing wrong with these concepts, they just aren't really scientific by definition.

 

[Armoth]

I was happily surprised that more than one person posted "Food of the Gods", it's an excellent read.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Theories and models still need to be able to be testable and repeatable, which is what makes them science.


There's nothing wrong with these concepts, they just aren't really scientific by definition.

Yes, except, we cannot test these certain theories only because of our lack of "science, technology, and understanding," you see where I'm getting at? Meaning, these theories, they can't be subjected as simply pseudoscience, because we don't know how to prove or disprove them...

 

[helium-4]

Yes, except, we cannot test these certain theories only because of our lack of "science, technology, and understanding," you see where I'm getting at? Meaning, these theories, they can't be subjected as simply pseudoscience, because we don't know how to prove or disprove them...

Theories have to be based on something, be it some form of empirical evidence or calculated math, or it would just be speculation.

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.[1]

A scientific theory can be considered a deductive theory, in that its content could be expressed in some formal system of logic in which its elementary rules are taken as axioms. In a deductive theory, any sentence which is a logical consequence of one or more of the axioms is also a sentence of that theory.[2]

1# ^ Merriam-Webster.com Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Theory in Science
2# ^ Curry, Haskell B. (1977), Foundations of Mathematical Logic, Dover, ISBN 0-486-63462-0

Taken from wiki.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Theories have to be based on something, be it some form of empirical evidence or calculated math, or it would just be speculation.

You're missing the point though, it's all speculation... even down to the math