The Big & Dandy Entity Contact & Theories Thread

[Portillo]

I believe in the entitys but believe it comes from the spirit or life of the source. So salvia space comes from the salvia plant etc. It has a link to its own psyche mixed with your subconscience and all that.

 

[college_dropout]

When I first K holed I travelled through cosmic pipelines that made up the universe with five other spirits. It was some mad shit.

 

[Ravr]

"both times on large, 750-1000 microgram doses of acid. "


If you had to guess, how many blotters do you think?

 

[DivineMomenT]

Okay I will try and give you an answer to your question. I have never been to the place you speak with lsd because I have only taken up to 6 blotters. The head space on lsd is incredible though. I would like to venture into a further realm from lsd, but that is going to take 10 or so hits. Unfortunately I have not the time or opportunity to take such a high dose of lsd.

I have done DMT many times and have met many different entities. Most of the time they are welcoming and they tell me things about myself and surroundings that I never thought was possible. For me, DMT is a key to my subconscious that tells me the secrets of myself and of the universe. For those few minutes, I feel at home and welcome. When I come back to reality I am in complete awe of what just happened. It is hard to comprehend the experience after a few minutes. It feels like it was just a dream.

Everytime I go back I get a feeling of warmth throughout my body, then I expand to infinity. IMO dmt is one of the finaly frontiers of exploration of the human mind. It is hard to understand where we come from and what we are apart of if you live everyday inside this particular reality. I think it is good to take a vacation once in a while and venture into that unknown territory. I feel at complete peace durring some of the DMT lightshows. When the peak is over, everything becomes so clear.

The entities are as real as anything else I have experienced. Sometimes I tingle just thinking about DMT. The feeling is just so alien, yet natural at the same time. Smoking it produces such an overwealming come up. The DMT hits so hard and so fast that it is hard to integrate the experience into your life. I can imagine that a good dose of lsd would be easier to remember because of the long duration. You should try lsd + dmt and tell me how that feels.

 

[Church]

I've smoked DMT during the peak of an acid trip and it was basically phenomenal! Not much changes, but it seems that it lasts longer, and the "elves" are a bit easier to identify and communicate with. Everything during the DMT flash seems a lot more lucid.

...But still, the DMT just basically takes over for like 45 minutes or so. The acid doesn't really create much of a synergy, or any kind of a different DMT experience. Not for me, anyway. It just feels like acid sort of puts you on a higher plateau to blast off from, but the DMT destination is still the same.

 

[Ravr]

Oh yeah and the only entities I met were aliens when I k-holed...

They were not interested in communicating with me, just examining me8)

 

[Novus Opiate]

Ok this thread has a lot of potential to be exceptionally weird. I like what Dean Luna has to say. also

Tantric said:

for the record, tantric has met both coincidence control central and the prince of flowers, xochipilli. after plateau sigma on dxm, you don't ask whether it was real or not, rather, what the hell are you going to do about it?
xochipilli tried to kill me. i came back covered with weird perfectly square bruises. not to mention the stigmata bit, that was when i knew it was going to be bad.

tantric this sounds bizarre. Could you please explain a little more, if its not too personal?
What did the xochipilla and the prince of flowers have to say? What is this coincidence control centre?

Truly the best way to investigate the meaning of these entities is to share experiences of them and to try express what they are like. No better way to find out if they are real.

 

[Medatripper Tates]

a few days ago i was watching tv alittle stoned and i saw this black apparition in the corner of my eye, and it leaned over my right shoulder right next to my face, it was pretty vivid too..

 

[tathra]

i've seen humanoid figures on many different psychedelics. sometimes emotions can be sensed from them, giving the impression that they are free spirits trying to interact with you; and sometimes they're just there, an effect of the drug, splattered onto your field of vision.

its hypothesized that the universe could be a hologram, and every individual piece of the hologram contains all the same information as the whole. our mind is a piece of this hypothetical hologram.

so what does this all mean? its all in your head

until we find a way to cross into a reality different from our own and take others with us and bring back proof, we cant prove anything like the reality of these "entities" to anyone but ourselves.

 

[EgoDeath]

i have a friend that would say this place you go to isnt something just inside your head, this place is also known as the astral plane, the other 95% or whatever it is of reality that most of us are unaware of, even science says we only exist in a small percentage of whats really out there. kinda makes the entity part scary heh

I on the other hand just have no idea, either way, its bloody interesting

 

[mexican seafood]

i have a friend that would say this place you go to isnt something just inside your head, this place is also known as the astral plane, the other 95% or whatever it is of reality that most of us are unaware of, even science says we only exist in a small percentage of whats really out there. kinda makes the entity part scary heh

I on the other hand just have no idea, either way, its bloody interesting

I think you're referring to "dark matter", which is essentially a physicists way of explaining why the universe is the way it is.

Because of certain apparent properties of the universe, the current scientific belief is that there must be another kind of matter that we cannot see that makes up the majority of the universe.

That doesn't mean we have proof that this "dark matter" really exists...it's more we have proof that the universe shouldn't exist the way it appears to us, and so there must be something more to it that we can't see.

As for the entities, I have yet to experience this personally.
However, as a Buddhist I'm inclined to believe that such things are creations of the mind, just as the table that we sit at is really a creation of the mind in that it exists as a "table" only in our perception of it. Is it not true that if we were to look at it at another level, for example, the atomic, it would appear nothing like a table? It may be made of different elements, different kinds of atoms to other things, but split these open and look inside the atoms, and then look inside the neutrons and quarks so on, and is it not true that at it at the most basic level, anything is really the same as everything else in the universe, everything else we perceive and experience? All things are made of the same building blocks, and are distuingished by mind alone.

Someone also mentioned the idea that everything in the universe is a little universe in itself...that they are one and the same. This idea was (as far as I'm aware) first cultivated by the Hua-yen school of Buddhism, which derived this theory from the last book of the Avatamsaka Sutra, an ancient collection of texts probably originating from India.

So, this is an age-long debate...

 

[redgreenvnes]

I get three kinds of entites:

in one kind of entity encounter, the matrix or fabric of reality seems composed of animated motifs, or cartoon celluloid creatures, layered and vital, full of energy and intelligence. (sometimes they are detailed and sometimes they are a bit smeared and stretched into elves) always it seems layered to me but just as frequently it pops out like plastic smooth and shiny and otherworldly. (which may just be extreme smearing of the layers)

it is like a walpaper of entities, and, depending on my attitude at the moment it is either a welcoming or cynical body of entities that are enmeshed with that totality (mind) of experience. (often some sense of family, mother and brothers are involved)

another kind of entity that I encounter is more shadowy, a full sized being that could be a tracer of my own self (the way that tracers or strobed sensations and vision may double up or become a persistent sequence) with strong doses, it is as if, beings have been deposited in space that I have occupied, and that these beings are actually echoes of self. sometiems there are so many and it is so confusing that I do not know which one is the real one (the last one? the most fresh one? can you tell? who is asking?)

the third kind of entity, is composited, from memory or imaginings, or out of the matrix of motifs or fabric of mind space, and this one can be seen or heard or both. with many of the psychedelic effects, layers will blend or smear, and often with this type of entity the smearing creates elongated ears, smoothed striped clothing and, voila the imp or elf type creature(s) emerges.

(-salvia, shrooms, lsd, but mostly salvia)

 

[mexican seafood]

As for the entities, I have yet to experience this personally.

I must admit, this is a lie.

I forgot until I was talking to my friend last night...but I did have one "entity" experience.

I took about 495mg of DXM by myself one night, and decided to record what happened. I listened to the entirety of "De-loused In The Comatorium", which didn't exactly put me in a comfortable place, but made for an interesting trip...

Anyway, towards the early hours of the morning I began to get really tired...dozing off for a few seconds although I was still tripping pretty hard. As I was doing this, I began panicking, thinking that if I fell asleep I would surely forget to breathe and die. This kept me up for a while, and I got pretty frustrated with this fear...and that's when I had another dreamlike dxm-vision.
The details are sketchy, but I remember some kind of aztec-style pattern with checks, and a skull...
Well, when I came out, I had this memory that I had met "The Death God", and I was no longer afraid of dying in my sleep.

That's all I know for sure...other than that this god was definitely of aztec or incan origin.

As I said before, I don't really believe this was an actual spirit or being, but it was an interesting look at death and mortality.
Who knows, I could be proved wrong when this life ends...

 

[ford442]

i was informed by entities about the 9/11 attack on the world trade buildings.. i knew ten days before it happened that it was comming up and that it would be in NYC.. i just wasnt sure which building(s) would be struck..

this was in between acid trips, but while i was quite stoned on pot...

 

[orbital_forest]

the closest thing ive come to entity contact was on lsd,brdf,e and some K...i saw throiugh a tear in reality a large hospital looking space full of greenish gray tube beings taking apart and rearranging themselves and one another

 

[RavinRaphael]

I belive the "entities" are real. Just as i belive a trip is more then just a Drug fuelled psychosis, but as a real way of seeing the same life albeit from a diff POV.

 

[ILLBEGOODTHISTIME]

Its a likely scenario that these pre-conceived notions of meeting entities has much to do with the experiences to be had during these 'trips'

 

[hedfeelslikeafrisb]

Well I think we are all gods, while tripping I believe the gods visit our bodies and show us what they see. And while tripping extremely hard one day I was watching the computer visualizations and thinking to myself "I bet this is what the gods do, watch thier high tech equipment dance to music" It was very startling to me when I thought this. As soon as I went outside I pictured myself as a god. I walked around and felt this super power (not stupid power like when your high on coke) just felt sorta invincable. I wanted everyone to see me. I felt as though I was the god and everyone who looked at me had a glimpse of what "it" looks like. Like I created this world. And why should I be locked inside my cage (house) we all live in cages just like our pets do... It was one amazing experience to remember. Considering I just remembered it.

Also I believe that things really do look as they do while tripping (visually) because our brains have totally adapted to the environment and only allow us to see the cut and dry version of this planet. look at it this way. Trees are always sitting still when you look at them when the wind is blowing they sway a little. But while tripping they tend to move and may even speak sometimes. They are living creatures right? I notice dogs and cats get very wierd when you try and play with them while tripping like they have this sense that you are watching visiting thier world for that brief period of time and space.... I could go on and on but I think this is the wrong thread to be posting in about this but I wanted to find a place to put it besides my journal so some of you psychonauts can maybe comment on it or break this down a little bit more for me please.....

 

[StagnantReaction]

I'm inclined to believe that they are a mirror of some sort of persona within yourself. Whether it's a direct reflection of your self or a crystal-split divided into a few entities, I would say they are subconscious constructs put into your visual field. Since at high doses of psychedelics everything is amplified enormously, it's quite possible you are seeing yourself closer to the core than ever before, and your mind is grasping at straws to put an image on it.

 

[Xorkoth]

As far as I can tell, the feeling of being god happens because when tripping hard at an ego-loss level or nearly so, you tend to realize that the force of consciousness is singular, that is, we're all the same universal consciousness experiencing itself separately as just one of the possibilities of existence, but while you're locked inside this particular life, you're only aware of that one.

And I agree with you about the perception of the world. Daily survival causes you to heavily filter your perception to make it easier to survive. This is why babies are almost non-functioning, and small children are endlessly fascinated by everything, because they're still figuring it out. Tripping alters that perception, letting some more of it come in unfiltered for you to perceive it anew once again. I also think that sometimes the visual alterations you see are definitely constructed by your mind, quite often in fact, in order to put meaning to the complex emotional and revelatory experience.

And I also definitely agree with you on animals while tripping. My cats give me a very different sense while I'm tripping. I find I can relate to them on a more one-on-one level, and they definitely treat me differently, more curiously, more communicatively. If I'm fille with anxiety or freaking out, they freak out as well and stay far away. All animals react to you, however, differently than they ordinarily would. In fact, ever since I've started tripping, I haven't even gotten a single mosquito bite... I shit you not.