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The "American" parts of BL

used to be (not sure about the 100 times thing).

govt hates black people I actually agree with Kanye
 
Cornishman said:
Is it true that in America you get 100 times the punishment for possession if your coke is in smokeable form as opposed to powder for snorting/shooting?
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In an episode of Oz a biker gets life for getting caught with a kilo of weed. It was his 3rd time caught so mandatory life sentence. I've always wondered if that was true because life for a bag of weed is pretty brutal. Rapists and paedophiles don't even get life (or anything near it).
 
Cornishman said:
Is it true that in America you get 100 times the punishment for possession if your coke is in smokeable form as opposed to powder for snorting/shooting?
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it was a 100:1 ratio for punishment, now its at 18:1 after they passed the 'fair sentencing act' still not sure how that is fair but it's still much better than the previous 'mass incarceration of the darkies act'

Information gathered in 1995 indicated that although crack users in America were made up of 52% whites and 38% blacks, African Americans accounted for 88% of those sentenced for crack cocaine offenses, while whites accounted for just 4.1%(source)
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trip2themoon said:
In an episode of Oz a biker gets life for getting caught with a kilo of weed. It was his 3rd time caught so mandatory life sentence. I've always wondered if that was true because life for a bag of weed is pretty brutal. Rapists and paedophiles don't even get life (or anything near it).
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Three strikes law - some states have decided that once you've been convicted a third time that you are a career criminal. people have been given 25 to life on their 3rd conviction for stealing cookies.

good news for the highly profitable privatised prison industry.
 
trip2themoon said:
In an episode of Oz a biker gets life for getting caught with a kilo of weed. It was his 3rd time caught so mandatory life sentence. I've always wondered if that was true because life for a bag of weed is pretty brutal. Rapists and paedophiles don't even get life (or anything near it).
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If you think that's stupid, check this out:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1995/03/03/NEWS7012.dtl

But hey, it's better than executing people with the mind of a child almost every week. O wait...
 
It depends.

You guys gotta remember that laws vary considerably from state to state, and then varies just as much in different parts of each state. On top of that, police enforcement and court attitudes are extremely random from situation to situation and from place to place.

Also, bear in mind that our criminal justice system and criminal law is based off English law.
 
I already knew it varied considerably from state to state NT. That's why you've got to wonder why anyone with 2 strikes is stupid enough to stay in the same state when they are released the second time?

I think that English and American law diverged quite substantially quite some time ago didn't they? I mean sure you have common law that is binding, but a lot of the ratio decidendi is entirely different to here. So too are a lot of the statutes, and we don't have a constitution either.
 
yoyo50 said:
so stealing a cookie is a serious criminal offense?
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SANTA ANA, California CNN A parolee could spend the rest of his life in prison for breaking into a restaurant and stealing chocolate chip cookies.

Kevin Weber was sentenced to 25 years to life Friday under Californias tough three strikes, youre out law.

Orange County Superior Court Judge Jean Rheinheimer said shehad no choice because of Webers two previous felony convictions stemming from a 1988 burglary.

Prosecutors said the sixtime parole violator broke into the restaurant to rob the safe after a busy Mothers Day holiday, but he triggered the alarm system before he could do it. When arrested, his pockets were full of cookies he had taken from the restaurant. Family members called the sentence ridiculous and unfair.

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I think the sentences are also harsher if double chocolate chip is found as opposed to single chocolate chip, but for that i have no sources
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
If you think that's stupid, check this out:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1995/03/03/NEWS7012.dtl

But hey, it's better than executing people with the mind of a child almost every week. O wait...
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That's disgusting. I hope the judge got a decent back hander from the owner of the prison for his new cheap labour. I've heard that white collar and non violent offenders are exactly what they are looking for as they'll work in prison for 50 cents an hour without too much hassle. I thought the Yanks had abolished slavery.


@ Watson: Single choc is not worth life in prison but double choc that's a different matter...:)
 
death penalty for white chocolate macadamia nut.


on that note, I can't believe we still execute people. And yes, life for smoking crack is some fucked up shit when Charles Taylor got only 50 years for Genocide.
 
curious_24 said:
When I first went to uni in Atlanta, I got sent a welcome pack detailing what is expected of me in terms of cleanliness and hygiene. It read as though nobody outside of the US ever showered or had ever heard of deodorant.
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That's because the majority of foreign exchange students are Asian, and smell horribly. I used to live down the hall from them in the dorms, and we had to keep the hallway windows open even in the winter, and constantly had to spray air fresheners outside their doors. I just took the long way to avoid passing their rooms after a while. So that's who that welcome pack was aimed at.

curious_24 said:
Imagine you took those "Kandy-Kids" to a proper night out here? Including full after-party at some cunt's house, Sunday afternoon booze treks, early morning coke deliveries, sniffing ecto because you can no longer swallow them etc. They'd fucking die.
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I've never seen one of these Kandy Kids in real life. I thought they were pretty much extinct until I stumbled across the "show us your kandy" thread in ED.
 
Aye if an AS in government & politics taught me anything it was that there exists an uncodified constitition for the UK.
 
knockando said:
As my Dad kept banging on at me as a child for reasons still unknown and with the only benefit being me getting to post this now, no written constitution, MSB, but a constitution we do have.
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Yes, there is a set of laws that have been around for a long time, but they are pretty freely changed at will by the government of the day. If our unwritten constitution gave us the right to bare arms, the government could take it away over night. We aren't exactly protected by a rigid set of rights that we will always have, apart from possibly the HRA, Habeas Corpus, and the Magna Carta right to due process? (Although there is talk about dropping the ECHRA/HRA I don't think it will happen) I quite like that we don't have a fixed constitution though. Rigid rules seem to have caused more problems for America than they have solved. Broadly speaking we do have almost all of the rights Americans have, and more, but they aren't half as set in stone.
 
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