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US Politics The 2021 Former President Trump Thread - I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge.

^ according to qtards he’s being reinstated in August 🤣. Trump won in 2020, but the ‘’fortification’ of the election made it impossible for him to win. If they can stop the establishment from passing HR1 which changes the rules to how they won the 2020 election, then they may have a shot. Otherwise they will pump in as many ballots with zero checks and be unstoppable regardless of if it’s 90 million for trump and 90.1 million for Biden’s corpse or copmala.
 
cduggles said:
But to your point, I think in the last election (I think the last two Dem presidential primaries were tinkered with for different reasons), Dems wanted to win and many felt Sanders couldn’t win a general election, which I think is true. So Clyburn and a few others got together and made sure Biden got nominated.
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This is what I think too. The trouble is, I don't think that Biden appeals enough to the fairly substantial progressive voting bloc in the Democratic party to motivate them to get out and vote in house and senate elections. Say what you will about Sanders, he actually got those people to vote. That's exactly why I think Biden was the wrong candidate. From the pool of candidates that were there, I think Kamala might have been the right candidate (best of a bad bunch). She's centre enough to win over the centre voters and left enough to get the progressive bloc to vote. If the progressives don't turn out in the house and senate elections Biden's presidency is going to be another lame duck.
 
Dropperneck said:
^ according to qtards he’s being reinstated in August 🤣. Trump won in 2020, but the ‘’fortification’ of the election made it impossible for him to win. If they can stop the establishment from passing HR1 which changes the rules to how they won the 2020 election, then they may have a shot. Otherwise they will pump in as many ballots with zero checks and be unstoppable regardless of if it’s 90 million for trump and 90.1 million for Biden’s corpse or copmala.
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This is a pipe dream, I hope you know
 
aemetha said:
This is what I think too. The trouble is, I don't think that Biden appeals enough to the fairly substantial progressive voting bloc in the Democratic party to motivate them to get out and vote in house and senate elections. Say what you will about Sanders, he actually got those people to vote. That's exactly why I think Biden was the wrong candidate. From the pool of candidates that were there, I think Kamala might have been the right candidate (best of a bad bunch). She's centre enough to win over the centre voters and left enough to get the progressive bloc to vote. If the progressives don't turn out in the house and senate elections Biden's presidency is going to be another lame duck.
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I think you've got a good idea about this. Please don't lose sight of it.
 
iridescentblack said:
Wasn't Sanders kind of anarcho-syndicalistic?
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Lol if only! No, he was wedded to the idea of using the state to enact positive change, which makes his lack of political acumen that much more inexcusable imo. He should’ve gone for the jugular on some of these people in his own party but that’s just not his way

And there was undoubtedly enormous pressure within the party to conform, to present a united front and not give the opposition get any talking points, lest Trump win. But there will always be another Trump...in 2024 no doubt it will be, don’t bring up our dirty laundry lest Trump get elected! Then it will be, oh no we can’t have ambitious plans for reform, or call out potential corruption within our own party, because some new reactionary who has taken on the Trumpian mantle/program will win! In every election from here on that’s what it’ll likely be, vote for our person or Hitler/Stalin 2.0 will gain power and it’ll be game over for you

It’s quiet now but the Dems are living on borrowed time. Unless they give the people an actual reason to vote FOR them, whenever the next real downturn comes along (which will inevitably happen), the next reactionary to hit the scene, either Trump or somebody (god forbid more competent and less of a lazy doofus) like him, is gonna pillory them like crazy. And the perfect foil for them will be a doddering old cretin who has been in politics for decades and decades, and his VP from the Bay Area Democratic power elite and her horrible fake laugh. The same conditions which led to Trump’s victory in 2016 will be replicated

The idea of there being crossover between Sanders and Trump supporters doesn’t seem that strange to me...they were both “anti establishment” candidates. That’s the commonality. With Trump I think it was mostly of a rhetorical/performative nature...his administration was a pretty typical Republican admin if subjected to a sober, relatively objective analysis IMO, and until almost the very end “the establishment” was fine with him being president, although they may have had misgivings about his mean tweets or whatever. Still, it’s still significant in a field like politics, where messaging and the ability to make serviceable propaganda
 
trump is 100% going to come back in 2024. Just everybody wait and see. This circus show is only on hiatus for the writers of it (the illumnati) to pull further strings in their agenda to control the minds of the american people.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
trump is 100% going to come back in 2024. Just everybody wait and see.
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i don't think that's a particularly challenging prediction to make. i think his ego will definitely propell him to run in 2024 if he's healthy enough (he'll be 78 years old).

TripSitterNZ said:
This circus show is only on hiatus for the writers of it (the illumnati) to pull further strings in their agenda to control the minds of the american people.
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if this shady cabal is controlling everything, and having trump in the white house, is part of "their agenda to control the minds of the american people", why's he not in the white house right now?

alasdair
 
What sort of system of government are people supporting when they go after communists?

If whatever comes around again Trump goes up for re-election he's going to have a bit of a tripping hazard. Whatever anxiety he isn't facing now is sure to affect his demeanor and gait. In the meantime there's a boatload of trials against him. I for one think this is going to be a lot like the typical insanity plea in court related drama. Trump is going to attempt to seize the bench in an attempt to prove his innocence. He's a liar after all.

I however don't see his attempts at manipulating the mass populace as subtle at all. Someone's bound to ruin the entire event leading up to his alleged reinstatement. He will be a much darker man by the time the next election roles around.
 
Yep America’s attention span is infamously short so I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened. I also think that they will turn on Joe in a split second if things start to get really bad

Then again, I heard a recent Trump interview (with lazy propagandist Sean Hannity) and it wasn’t anything to write home about. He just seemed like he was going through the motions, almost like he was tired of it or something. The classic wisecracking demagogue Trump was nowhere in sight, instead replaced by whiny Trump who bitches and moans that he’s not getting the requisite attention he craves. But who knows, maybe he just needs to start working the crowds again or something, get the blood flowing
 
Donald Trump Phoenix, Arizona Rally Speech Transcript July 24

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The county has, for whatever reason, also refused to produce the network routers. We want the routers, Sonny, Wendy, we got to get those routers, please. The routers. Come on, Kelly, we can get those routers. Those routers. You know what? We’re so beyond the routers, there’s so many fraudulent votes without the routers. But if you got those routers, what that will show, and they don’t want to give up the routers. They don’t want to give them. They are fighting like hell. Why are these commissioners fighting not to give the routers? How simple could it be? That will tell the truth.
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he's delusional.

i read that the trump 'campaign' has raised $75M and there's no word on whether he's even running again...

alasdair
 
it's just a stream of words, disconnected thoughts...

"In my opinion, there is no way they win elections without cheating. There’s no way. There’s no way. No second amendment. They’re against energy. We were energy independent two months ago, energy independent. Now we’re not energy independent."

wut?

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
he's delusional.
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Who isn't?

alasdairm said:
there's no word on whether he's even running again...
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He's running.

Also, I assume it's not legal to raise funds for a presidential campaign and then pocket them? (Not that he is particularly concerned with the law.)
 
Trumps association with Zionism is concerning to all, but the fact that the seculars that run America hate him so much and see him as a wild card makes him a no brainer in 24. Hopefully the filibuster remains so they can’t put the voter fraud methods they used to steal the 2020 elections into permanence. If the elections are somewhat fair then 2022 and 2024 will be a blood bath imo
 
i'm not convinced he's running but i would not be surprised if he does.

and, yes, it is illegal to raise funds for a campaign then pocket them for personal use.

alasdair
 
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