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US Politics The 2020 Trump Presidency Thread

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I've worked out your code.

The elite = anyone with any power that isn't on the far right, even if they're the ones trying to get into government rather than already running it.

Deep state = anyone loyal to the constitution rather than Trump.

Fake news = anything that happens that makes us look bad.

The radical far left = anyone more left than Hitler basically.

Censorship = when other people don't let us say what we wanna say uncontested and insist on arguing back!

Bias = when people don't repeat our lies.
 
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That justifies the government preventing Twitter and Facebook conducting anticompetitive practices. Ensuring people actually have the ability to compete with them.

It doesn't justify passing laws to make them de facto public yet also still making a fortune for their share holders.

When companies become too big you make sure other companies can try and compete with them. You don't just make that company a de facto government service.

How fucking laughable is it that the same people arguing that Facebook is a public service they're entitled to use are also the ones generally opposing public health care. Insisting everything should be done through private companies.

Fuck your right to spew propaganda, where's the regulation to ensure all Americans have first world health care like other wealthy countries?

You think I don’t want free healthcare? I’ve had thousands of dollars of medical bills when I was forced to get into an ambulance by 15 state troopers against my will and I had to pay the Bill.

I don’t call myself republican I’m a free spirit I don’t abide by every thing they stand for.
 
I've worked out your code.

The elite = anyone with any power that isn't on the far right, even if they're the ones trying to get into government rather than already running it.

Deep state = anyone loyal to the constitution rather than Trump.

Fake news = anything that happens that makes us look bad.

The radical far left = anyone more left than Hitler basically.

Censorship = when other people don't let us say what we wanna say uncontested and insist on arguing back!

Bias = when people don't repeat our lies.

No. Not even close. Do you even read what I write?
 
Sure thing - obviously it’s dependent upon world events which will likely be caused on purpose. Just like how Corona was intentionally leaked as a bio weapon against the world.

By 2024 Biden will have actively destroyed the NRA. Step by step, mass shootings and staged capital riots will be used as the fire to come after our protections.

Twitter and Facebook will continue to serve the Democratic Party through intense algorithms swaying public opinion.

The concept of democracy will die in America as things like mandatory vaccinations, etc grow. We will slowly lose all freedoms.

Biden will continue to cause the American people to depend on government aid to survive. This will weaken us more as more lockdowns, restrictions and other nonsense violate our ability to work and survive.

By 2030 at this rate and if drastic change is not made, the media will have complete control of our minds.

Anyone who speaks critically of the Democrat party will be imprisoned or killed. And the Democratic revolution of evil will come to a head as America is the rebirth of Nazi Germany but worse - American citizens will be as targeted as the Jewish population was.

I don’t believe any race or religion will protect you. Only the elite and rich will survive or have a say. The rest of us pawns.
There are dozens of communication possibilities in 2021

Obviously free speech is desirable but don't' forget Twitter/Facebook etc are private companies who are free to make their own rules

Trump's words are clearly inflammable and potentially dangerous

If, say you were Jewish/Roma/disabled etc and you owned a theatre, would you allow a modern day Hitler book your theatre with his intention to spread hatred and division in it?
 
If the FBI found out about a bunch of people meeting in private and in person to plan an insurgency, plan attacks on all 50 state capitols, and spread propaganda to bring millions of others into it, those people would be arrested as fuck, and charged with conspiracy and treason. But we're supposed to defend allowing this to happen on online platforms in the name of freedom of speech? It's nonsense.

I believe in freedom of speech, but we have never had absolute freedom of speech. Some stuff, if you say it, has consequences. You're not allowed to radicalize millions into overthrowing the government, sorry, it would be insanity to not try to stop that. What we're facing is hundreds of thousands (at least) of radicalized extremists willing to overthrow democracy to install the leader they want. They're trying to spread this radicalization to many more people. The capitol attack is only the beginning of this thing, or rather the culmination of decades of this thing fomenting, into action. We would be fucking idiots to not do our best to suppress the ability of these people to continue to spread this poison.

Look, Americans are at an all-time low with regards to trust in government. And rightfully so. The establishment is looking out for the wealthy. There are people (not many) trying to re-establish trust by getting our government to operate as it is supposed to, for it to be for the people like it once was. Trump and the radical right know this, and have co-opted this deep need that all Americans feel, in order to push their own agenda. The same as all dictators do. The same as the dictators that Manafort and Stone and friends have propped up in Africa for decades (they literally have made a career of it). A bunch of angry racists who want America to go back to how it was before civil rights don't care because it serves their purposes, and sadly, a bunch of other people have been sucked into this fantasy, too. Trump is an awful person, there have been people saying so his whole career, since way before he ever dreamed of running for president. The truth is right now, you just need to be willing to admit that you got duped by a con man. I hope everyone opens their eyes because I want our government to be held accountable and start working for the people again, too. But Trump is not the guy to do it, and this insurrection will only make things worse for everybody. Biden isn't the guy to do it, either, let me be clear. But the status quo is better than this, mark my words. Let's focus our collective desire to better this country into producing good people to lead, and then voting for those people.

It's okay to admit you have been taken in by a con man trying to gain power. People have done it over and over throughout history, it's understandable. The rest of us will forgive you. Well some people won't because some people like to feel smug, but whatever, fuck them. Quit being useful to these people.

I didn't vote for Trump because when I watched him speak at rallies in 2015/2016, I saw what he was. But I wanted to believe in him, in fact, my ex-wife and I had a discussion back when he first said he was thinking about running, and we thought hey, I'd probably vote for him, we need someone to cut through the bullshit. It was during The Apprentice and he seemed like a savvy businessman, I figured someone outside of politics must be better than someone inside the system. I wanted to believe he'd be good, I was actually excited for a brief time when he announced he was running, but I couldn't believe in him anymore once I heard the things he was saying and the manner in which he was conducting himself. Even after he got voted in, I held out hope that I was wrong and that he would be a good thing. My hopes were quickly dashed though, because I was not willing to close my eyes for the sake of my wish that someone worthy would lead us. Sadly, he is not our savior, I wish he was but he's very clearly not. The results of his presidency are worse than my worst case scenario in my head was back then, though. He didn't cause these problems, but he sure has enabled them to grow to an extent I hadn't believed possible.

It's not too late. A lot of people have turned away from Trump now that it has also become clear to them that they were taken in by a dangerous person. Not enough though. So can you.
 
If the FBI found out about a bunch of people meeting in private and in person to plan an insurgency, plan attacks on all 50 state capitols, and spread propaganda to bring millions of others into it, those people would be arrested as fuck, and charged with conspiracy and treason. But we're supposed to defend allowing this to happen on online platforms in the name of freedom of speech? It's nonsense.

I believe in freedom of speech, but we have never had absolute freedom of speech. Some stuff, if you say it, has consequences. You're not allowed to radicalize millions into overthrowing the government, sorry, it would be insanity to not try to stop that. What we're facing is hundreds of thousands (at least) of radicalized extremists willing to overthrow democracy to install the leader they want. They're trying to spread this radicalization to many more people. The capitol attack is only the beginning of this thing, or rather the culmination of decades of this thing fomenting, into action. We would be fucking idiots to not do our best to suppress the ability of these people to continue to spread this poison.

Look, Americans are at an all-time low with regards to trust in government. And rightfully so. The establishment is looking out for the wealthy. There are people (not many) trying to re-establish trust by getting our government to operate as it is supposed to, for it to be for the people like it once was. Trump and the radical right know this, and have co-opted this deep need that all Americans feel, in order to push their own agenda. The same as all dictators do. The same the dictators that Manafort and Stone and friends have propped up in Africa for decades. A bunch of angry racists who want America to go back to how it was before civil rights don't care because it serves their purposes, and sadly, a bunch of other people have been sucked into this fantasy, too. Trump is an awful person, there have been people saying so his whole career, since way before he ever dreamed of running for president. The truth is right now, you just need to be willing to admit that you got duped by a con man. I hope everyone opens their eyes because I want our government to be held accountable and start working for the people again, too. But Trump is not the guy to do it, and this insurrection will only make things worse for everybody. Biden isn't the guy to do it, either, let me be clear. But the status quo is better than this, mark my words. Let's focus our collective desire to better this country into producing good people to lead, and then voting for those people.

It's okay to admit you have been taken in by a con man trying to gain power. People have done it over and over throughout history, it's understandable. The rest of us will forgive you. Well some people won't because some people like to feel smug, but whatever, fuck them. Quit being useful to these people.

I didn't vote for Trump because when I watched him speak at rallies in 2015/2016, I saw what he was. But I wanted to believe in him, in fact, my ex-wife and I had a discussion back when he first said he was thinking about running, and we thought hey, I'd probably vote for him, we need someone to cut through the bullshit. I wanted to believe he'd be good, I was actually excited for a brief time when he announced he was running, but I couldn't anymore once I heard the things he was saying and the manner in which he was conducting himself. Even after he got voted in, I held out hope that I was wrong and that he would be a good thing. My hopes were quickly dashed though, because I was not willing to close my eyes. Sadly, he is not our savior. The results of his presidency are worse than my worst case scenario in my head was back then, though. He didn't cause these problems, but he sure has enabled them to grow.

It's not too late. A lot of people have turned away from Trump now that it has also become clear to them that they were taken in by a dangerous person. Not enough though. So can you.
I feel like it's gonna be quite some time before most of Trump's fans will admit they've made any kind of mistake.
 
I am at an all time low for any patience with this nonsense. All I see are a bunch of sore loser victims that blame everyone for their own ills with this Trump cult. Jesus even Tom Brady learned sportsmanship. He use to annoy me but he matured. So when I see some of these people at the Capitol crying because they are being arrested I feel like watching this video again. I know I posted it before but it verbalizes what I think. (Rappaport annoys me but this hit it)

(listen to the whole 1:30 minutes lol)

The only thing Trump should be doing now is a sincere prayer asking for strength to deal with what he has to deal with. lol But we know that won't happen. I would help anyone that is sincere enough but I don't see any of that. Trump is spending his last days very angry and screwing people so whatever karma he incurs is all self doing.

Kindness people. Try it. Everyone wants it. I work with and have family memebers that are Trump supporters including my brother (who just admitted he is a low life finally). I find it sick and pathetic that some congressman that they get on they knees and blow trump to get votes. I need a shower after seeing some of these people. I hope when they die they go to planet Trump for a lifetime and have to serve the devil.
 
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It’s funny to see all these people who were SO BRAVE while storming the Capitol begging Trump for a pardon because there are real consequences for what they did.
After his hollow disavowal of violence, I don’t think Trump will pardon the Capitol protesters. Not good for the brand.
 
It’s funny to see all these people who were SO BRAVE while storming the Capitol begging Trump for a pardon because there are real consequences for what they did.
After his hollow disavowal of violence, I don’t think Trump will pardon the Capitol protesters. Not good for the brand.

I doubt he will either. Maybe then it will show some of his supporters that they shouldn't support him.

It's possible he will in order to avoid that, but I think he's probably more keen to avoid adding to his criminal charges. He's gotta be scared right now, particular with the way everyone has turned against him except for his die-hards.

Actually, and apparently 87% of the republican party still approves of his job performance. 8(

I hope he doesn't, mostly because they shouldn't get to escape consequences, but also because it will show people his character who still think he's looking out for them. Not only was he not there with them as he claimed he would be, but he threw them under the bus when it became personally expedient for him to do so.
 
Trump’s popularity nosedives. Apparently, the biggest drop is with Republicans and right-leaning individuals.

Trump's approval rating plunges to all-time low of 29 percent in new Pew poll​

President Trump's approval rating has fallen to the lowest level of his presidency, with a significant drop among Republicans.

In the latest Pew Research Center poll released Friday, Trump received a job approval rating of 29 percent, which is his lowest-ever number in this poll and a decline of nine percentage points from August. Additionally, Pew notes that "much of the decline has come among Republicans and GOP leaners," 60 percent of whom approve of Trump's job performance compared to 77 percent in August.

Additionally, Pew found that Trump voters "have grown more critical of their candidate's post-election conduct," as the "share of his supporters who describe his conduct as poor has doubled over the past two months, from 10 percent to 20 percent." The poll also found that only 29 percent of respondents said Trump should remain a major figure in U.S. politics in the years to come, while 68 percent said he shouldn't be.

The poll was conducted in the wake of last week's deadly attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob, which led to Trump becoming the first president in American history to be impeached twice. In the poll, three-quarters of respondents said Trump bears either a lot or some responsibility for the riot, while only 24 percent said he isn't responsible at all. Ahead of his upcoming Senate impeachment trial, 54 percent of respondents also said it would be better for Trump to be removed from office than finish his term, a possibility that has been ruled out due to the trial not being expected to begin until President-elect Joe Biden is in office.

Pew Research Center conducted its poll by surveying 5,360 U.S. adults from Jan. 8-12. The margin of error is 1.9 percentage points. Read more at Pew Research Center.

 
4 days. Don can move to Mexico and run for office there. A great way to practice your spanish.
Another way is to get some of those Rosseta Stone books and learn if from your very own jail cell.
 
How could Trump possibly have known that he wouldn't be able to get Mexico to pay for his wall?

Clearly this is more treasonous Democrat obstruction. :D
 
Well, I think we talked about the wall before. Germany had one, planes, tunnels, water are routes into america. Anyway...that why I suggested he run for office in Mexico. But it's really something I was considering. Like premier or governor w.e they are. Get the cartel to go legal and really hone my spanish.
 
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