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US Politics The 2020 Trump Presidency Thread

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So, what do those of you outside the US think about this mammoth clusterfuck with our fascist in chief??


I think the media twists things to make him look worse. The media is very liberal. For example, trump said "grab her by the pussy " and was vilified. My liberal prime minister actually grabbed a student by the pussy but paid her off and she can't speak of it, media silence. Or my pm wearing blackface THREE times and nothing, imagine if trump did that once.
So i don't know, both our media is to hypocritical and dishonest to form a judgment
 
I think the media twists things to make him look worse. The media is very liberal. For example, trump said "grab her by the pussy " and was vilified. My liberal prime minister actually grabbed a student by the pussy but paid her off and she can't speak of it, media silence. Or my pm wearing blackface THREE times and nothing, imagine if trump did that once.
So i don't know, both our media is to hypocritical and dishonest to form a judgment

I am so soooo sick of hearing this kinda thing.

Lets take everything you just said as an absolute, unquestionable fact.

Soo.... the fuck... what? What does it matter what some other guy did and got away with? Should trump get a pass just cause the media attacks him when he does wrong shit but not other people?

Trump is the president, and I intensely dislike him because of the things HE SAYS. The things noone disputes that he has said. I don't give a shit about the medias commentary on what he says, I don't give a shit about what other people said and got away with.

I care that the president constantly gives off every impression that he's an incompetent dangerous narcissist. And I'm so sick of hearing that none of that should matter because of what someone else said or did. Or worse that it shouldn't matter because... we just shouldn't take what trump says seriously?

Trump looks bad because HE'S A BAD PERSON. When you so clearly don't give a shit about other people, when you demean people and act like Trump does all the time, when you have federal agencies kidnap people or tear gas peaceful protesters so you can have a photo op, when you pretend you'll stick around for a 3rd term or consider refusing to transfer power if you loose the election, when you work to prevent people from being able to vote because they might not vote for you...

YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!

And a lot of us, don't much care for assholes....
 
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I am so soooo sick of hearing this kinda thing.

Lets take everything you just said as an absolute, unquestionable fact.

Soo.... the fuck... what? What does it matter what some other guy did and got away with? Should trump get a pass just cause the media attacks him when he does wrong shit but not other people?

Trump is the president, and I intensely dislike him because of the things HE SAYS. The things noone disputes that he has said. I don't give a shit about the medias commentary on what he says, I don't give a shit about what other people said and got away with.

I care that the president constantly gives off every impression that he's an incompetent dangerous narcissist. And I'm so sick of hearing that none of that should matter because of what someone else said or did. Or worse that it shouldn't matter because... we just shouldn't take what trump says seriously?

Trump looks bad because HE'S A BAD PERSON. When you so clearly don't give a shit about other people, when you demean people and act like Trump does all the time, when you have federal agencies kidnap people or tear gas peaceful protesters so you can have a photo op, when you pretend you'll stick around for a 3rd term or consider refusing to transfer power if you loose the election, when you work to prevent people from being able to vote because they might not vote for you...

YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!

And a lot of us, don't much care for assholes....


It matters because how can someone form an opinion when it is bias and 1/2 truths?
Or should I just go by your OPINION?
 
I am so soooo sick of hearing this kinda thing.

Lets take everything you just said as an absolute, unquestionable fact.

Soo.... the fuck... what? What does it matter what some other guy did and got away with? Should trump get a pass just cause the media attacks him when he does wrong shit but not other people?

Trump is the president, and I intensely dislike him because of the things HE SAYS. The things noone disputes that he has said. I don't give a shit about the medias commentary on what he says, I don't give a shit about what other people said and got away with.

I care that the president constantly gives off every impression that he's an incompetent dangerous narcissist. And I'm so sick of hearing that none of that should matter because of what someone else said or did. Or worse that it shouldn't matter because... we just shouldn't take what trump says seriously?

Trump looks bad because HE'S A BAD PERSON. When you so clearly don't give a shit about other people, when you demean people and act like Trump does all the time, when you have federal agencies kidnap people or tear gas peaceful protesters so you can have a photo op, when you pretend you'll stick around for a 3rd term or consider refusing to transfer power if you loose the election, when you work to prevent people from being able to vote because they might not vote for you...

YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!

And a lot of us, don't much care for assholes....

Explain why there are different rules for each side than or do you just want to stomp your feet and scream you're an asshole?
 
It matters because how can someone form an opinion when it is bias and 1/2 truths?
Or should I just go by your OPINION?

Well by that argument, how can you form an opinion? How can anybody? I mean you must get your news from somewhere, and unless you get your news from trump because you work for him or something, if you can't have a valid opinion if its been formed from third party information, how is nearly any opinion valid?

Orrrrr... better idea... I can look at the things trump says, that I have video of him saying. I can look at the things that he's done, that EVERYONE, supporters and critics alike agree that he did, that he admits to doing, and say "that's fucking wrong", and come to the conclusion that he's a complete asshole? Like for example all those things I mentioned before plus the piles and piles more that didn't happen like literally just in the last couple months.

Explain why there are different rules for each side than or do you just want to stomp your feet and scream you're an asshole?

Uhh... there aren't any rules at all. The media outlets just take the positions they take based on the biases of the people who work at them. Are they frequently hypocritical? Sure. But trump doesn't just suddenly become not a dangerous asshole just because the media are hypocritical.
 
I am so soooo sick of hearing this kinda thing.

Lets take everything you just said as an absolute, unquestionable fact.

Soo.... the fuck... what? What does it matter what some other guy did and got away with? Should trump get a pass just cause the media attacks him when he does wrong shit but not other people?

Trump is the president, and I intensely dislike him because of the things HE SAYS. The things noone disputes that he has said. I don't give a shit about the medias commentary on what he says, I don't give a shit about what other people said and got away with.

I care that the president constantly gives off every impression that he's an incompetent dangerous narcissist. And I'm so sick of hearing that none of that should matter because of what someone else said or did. Or worse that it shouldn't matter because... we just shouldn't take what trump says seriously?

Trump looks bad because HE'S A BAD PERSON. When you so clearly don't give a shit about other people, when you demean people and act like Trump does all the time, when you have federal
Well by that argument, how can you form an opinion? How can anybody? I mean you must get your news from somewhere, and unless you get your news from trump because you work for him or something, if you can't have a valid opinion if its been formed from third party information, how is nearly any opinion valid?

Orrrrr... better idea... I can look at the things trump says, that I have video of him saying. I can look at the things that he's done, that EVERYONE, supporters and critics alike agree that he did, that he admits to doing, and say "that's fucking wrong", and come to the conclusion that he's a complete asshole? Like for example all those things I mentioned before plus the piles and piles more that didn't happen like literally just in the last couple months.



Uhh... there aren't any rules at all. The media outlets just take the positions they take based on the biases of the people who work at them. Are they frequently hypocritical? Sure. But trump doesn't just suddenly become not a dangerous asshole just because the media are hypocritical.


I can't form an opinion on hypocrisy. Wth is so hard to understand about that?
Go back to telling me what me and my black boyfriend should be offended about next.
 
You can't.. Look at someone saying they'll consider refusing to leave the Whitehouse, and have an opinion on that, because the media are hypocrites?

OK.. I can though... My opinion is such a person isn't fit to be president.
 
You can't.. Look at someone saying they'll consider refusing to leave the Whitehouse, and have an opinion on that, because the media are hypocrites?

OK.. I can though... My opinion is such a person isn't fit to be president.
Hell, he's not fit to run a fucking McDonald's, let alone running a nation...
 
you're that confident of your prediction you're willing to wage a whole $1 :)

what does "65% + majority" mean? 65% of the popular vote and a majority (270) of electoral college votes?

alasdair

I was wondering that too.

I will wager $1,000 that trump will win.

Not because I actually think that reflects the true odds, but because then I can't lose. Either trump will be out or ill have won the money. And I'd totally pay $1,000 to get trump out of office.

:D

I dare not speculate on the true odds. Looking at the data rationally, I'd say the odds of trump winning aren't great. But polls can change fast.

Honestly trump could be 15 points or more behind in every state and I'd still struggle to let myself believe we might actually be spared 4 more years of him.
 
You can't.. Look at someone saying they'll consider refusing to leave the Whitehouse, and have an opinion on that, because the media are hypocrites?

OK.. I can though... My opinion is such a person isn't fit to be president.

If the person said it yes but not hearsay and the majority of what has been said about trump is just that or twisted.
Don't judge your neighbor until you walk the moon in his moccasins is something I live my life by
Do i like trump? Nope not at all but i am not going to vilify a stranger i don't know and many people have lied about.

Being a native woman who was once on top and had my competitors do the same smear gossip bs and my teachings are why i don't judge people i don't know.
I am actually sorry you hold so much hate for someone you don't know because . And sorry you judge people.
You're only hurting yourself, trump doesn't care and the anger you feel is all yours
 
Tell us how you really feel.

I'm fairly certain 45 is running the country like most of his failed ventures.

That is worth a good looking at, and deserves passing judgement on.

This reality television show has gone on long enough IMO. America really needs to change the channel and move on.
 
At least he didn't visit pedophile island but 1 president did.
People just want to hate and judge and are no better than Trump in all reality. Maybe they hate him because they see something in themselves in him.
 
I base all of my opinion on Trump on live footage of his speeches and press conferences (not biased news sources, but live footage). How it is possible to watch that stuff and not see that he's a malignant narcissist unfit for public office is beyond my comprehension. I have been close with two malignant narcissists before and its like the most obvious thing in the world.

Basically Noodle said he should be looked at under a microscope and judged. And your reply was "at least he didn't visit pedo island, unlike SOME PEOPLE". Which is 100% a deflection. We weren't talking about pedo island, we were talking about all the stuff he does do, and did do. Its irrelevant whether someone else visited "pedo island"
 
Maybe they hate him because they see something in themselves in him
sure. that is possible.

or maybe they hate him because of the obama birther b.s.

or maybe they hate him because of the way he's publicly disrespected and denigrated various military personnel after avoiding service himself with a 'bone spur'

or maybe they hate him because of his numerous insulting comments about women

or maybe they hate him because of his racist comments about judge curiel

or maybe they hate him because of his comments bragging about sexual assault in the hollywood access tape

or maybe they hate him because of his comments about the central park five

or maybe they hate him because of the trump university fraud

or maybe they hate him because of his baseless, debunked claims about 2016 election fraud

or maybe they hate him because of the way he funnels taxpayer money into his private businesses

or maybe they hate him because he frequently criticized obama for golfing and he golfs more often

or maybe they hate him because he frequently criticized obama for using too much taxpayer money traveling and he's used much, much more

or maybe they hate him because he frequently criticized obama for using executive orders (which he described as "power grabs") and he's outpacing obama on his own use of eo's

or maybe they hate him because of his pathetic, childish response to the issue of the crowd size at his inauguration

or maybe they hate him because he won't release his tax returns - what is he hiding?

or maybe they hate him because of his comments about nfl players protesting

or maybe they hate him because of his twitter obsession

or maybe they hate him because he abandoned kurdish allies

or maybe they hate him because he praised a congressman who physically assaulted a reporter

or maybe they hate him because of his completely bungled response to the coronavirus

or maybe they hate him because he valued an arm sale over doing what's right in the aftermath of the murder of a journalist

or maybe they hate him because covfefe

or maybe they hate him because he thinks some neo-nazi white supremacists are fine people and, given a chance to clearly and unequivocally denounce racism he couldn't do it

or maybe they hate him because he paid a porn star hush money after an affair

or maybe they hate him because his administration's separation of children and families at the southern border

i don't know. i mean those are just off the top of my head...

alasdair
 
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