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James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution

In an extraordinary condemnation, the former defense secretary backs protesters and says the president is trying to turn Americans against one another.

James Mattis, the esteemed Marine general who resigned as secretary of defense in December 2018 to protest Donald Trump’s Syria policy, has, ever since, kept studiously silent about Trump’s performance as president. But he has now broken his silence, writing an extraordinary broadside in which he denounces the president for dividing the nation, and accuses him of ordering the U.S. military to violate the constitutional rights of American citizens.

“I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled,” Mattis writes. “The words ‘Equal Justice Under Law’ are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.” He goes on, “We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution.”

In his j’accuse, Mattis excoriates the president for setting Americans against one another.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.”

related reading: A brief history of Trump’s empty rhetoric on uniting the country

alasdair
 
but when rubber hits the road he's doing what he can and letting others do their duty.

when you are President of the United States the rubber hits the road immediately. You don't have days and weeks and months to be a jack ass on twitter and play games. If you are out of your depth , you need to defer to the experts on Day 1. That's what Trump was supposed to be; a LEADER who gathered the "best people" to do the job. What we have seen is the epitome of disorganization.
 
Looks like it might be time to get rid of old Trump.

Too bad they chose Biden as his opponent.

$20 says Hildog jumps back in the picture.
 
when you are President of the United States the rubber hits the road immediately. You don't have days and weeks and months to be a jack ass on twitter and play games. If you are out of your depth , you need to defer to the experts on Day 1. That's what Trump was supposed to be; a LEADER who gathered the "best people" to do the job. What we have seen is the epitome of disorganization.
Glad you're here to share your work experience as president.
Trump actually did not a totally bad job - especially considering all the doom'n'gloom warnings from the media during last election.
The worst thing he seems to do consistently is upset the Dems' sensibilities.

So this means that either the media was lying a lot about Trump - or the role of the POTUS isn't as hard as some people make it out to be.
 
Glad you're here to share your work experience as president.
Trump actually did not a totally bad job - especially considering all the doom'n'gloom warnings from the media during last election.
The worst thing he seems to do consistently is upset the Dems' sensibilities.

So this means that either the media was lying a lot about Trump - or the role of the POTUS isn't as hard as some people make it out to be.

I thought good leaders took charge and accepted responsibility? Almost four years later and he (and his supporters) are still finding others to blame. Sad!
 

Wow, I figured he wouldn't say anything like that till trump was out of office.

Yet another "disgruntled ex employee" of trumps.

Poor trump, he has the worst luck. Constantly hiring "the best" only for the best to become disgruntled and start lying about how terrible a president he is.
 
Mad Dog was the highlight of his administration. When he left in 2018 I figured it would be mostly down hill for Trump.
 
I figured it would be mostly down hill for Trump.
It's been a lot of uphill for him. I don't care what people say. "Down 7% in the polls" PEOPLE DO NOT REMEMBER 2016 AND IT SCARES ME. I remember it. I wasn't mentally BRAIN DEAD then. These are ADULTS saying/reporting this shit... do they have no idea what happened four years ago??

People underestimate his voter base. Hillary was a better candidate than Biden. There's no way Dems will win in my opinion. They didn't care about the 20+ accusers in 2016... why would they care now?

Again just my opinion.
 
It's been a lot of uphill for him. I don't care what people say. "Down 7% in the polls" PEOPLE DO NOT REMEMBER 2016 AND IT SCARES ME. I remember it. I wasn't mentally BRAIN DEAD then. These are ADULTS saying/reporting this shit... do they have no idea what happened four years ago??

People underestimate his voter base. Hillary was a better candidate than Biden. There's no way Dems will win in my opinion. They didn't care about the 20+ accusers in 2016... why would they care now?

Again just my opinion.
It wasn't a landslide in 2016 and it will likely be a close race again this year.

I think Trump cares more about the poll numbers than anyone else.
 
I'll bite.

COVID:
Bluster and Bravado showing cluelessness at first when saying it's nothing and will blow over.
Smart move closing international travel, despite being called racist for it.
Bluster and Bravado showing cluelessness when voicing authority the states had, not him, in regards to civilian restrictions.
Good working with the states to ensure none were caught short in preparation for worst cases (providing unused naval hospitals, helping set up additional sites)
Summary - Bluster and Bravado give him a spotlight, but when rubber hits the road he's doing what he can and letting others do their duty.

FLOYD:
Let the states handle it, it is their responsibility first and foremost.
Muster the Nat'l Guard in preparation is smart, for when the governors ask for help if needed.
Bluster and Bravado claiming to send the Nat'l Guard in without request from governors to retain spotlight and set the stage for a win-win-win* on his part. Legally, he actually CAN do this if the states fail to provide for the safety and well being of it's citizens.
Labeling ANTIFA a terrorist organization....I'm leery of it. I believe the FBI has already been outlining ANTIFA activity for years as terroristic, but to cue up an investigation into citizens an an effort to curb a nebulous organization ... to me, that's opening a door to 4th Amendment violations, McCarthyism, and other concerning aspects. I'd prefer if the FBI did it's job in watching and shutting down dangerous citizens (under ANTIFA label or not) rather than making a public notice for people hunting with shaky definition and criteria. I think Trump made a mistake on this one, and at best he can choose to pretend he didn't say it while the FBI does it's job. More likely, he gave Democrats more talking points against his re-election.



*Win-win-win = He has offered to quell the riots if the states can't. If the states say 'no thanks' and fail, it gives Trump another platform for re-election and extending exec power. If the states say 'no thanks' and solve their own riots, he will take credit for pushing them towards that end. If the states ask for his help, he gets more proof that he can keep American's safe, fodder for re-election and extended power.

I need to pause for a moment and address 'extended power'. I asked elsewhere if the use of executive orders to enact laws is an over reach and got no answer. I became aware of the practice a conservatives railed about Obamacare, though I am certain earlier presidents (both parties) used executive orders as well. But Obama used them and was heavily criticized for it by the right, and by Trump who now uses the executive orders himself. Nobody chooses to relinquish authority. But I wonder how Trump will operate going forward (assuming re-election). Will he continue to push for more presidential power, or allow the position to be reigned in. I don't think he's capable of the latter, but an awareness of precedent and what it lays out for the future (of any president, of any party) is dangerous, IMO. It parallels my concern for the liberals who cry for more and more gov't control over citizen's lives (gov't programs, social safety net and the criteria to qualify for it)....and I want to ask, would you want Trump, or another president like him, to HAVE that control?

I want no more presidents. I want people to be free as they were intended to be. American police need to be reformed right now, and American cities need to rethink their budgets. Why is it that so many people are suffering and dying without reason? Manufactured scarcity. We have everything we need to make everyone comfortable, it's only a matter of distribution.

I believe together we can take care of our own. I'm all in for a reset. And I think more of us crazy geniuses should be the ones standing up and representing our communities. Hopefully some BLers will be out in their town councils in the coming years, because harm reduction is reality, and we have to go out and put it into the world to make it happen.
 
Touchy Feely? or Mr Grabby? Which one is better? Your vote matters!
 
I thought good leaders took charge and accepted responsibility? Almost four years later and he (and his supporters) are still finding others to blame. Sad!
The problem is anything Trump does will never be enough for his critics.
Should Trump take responsibility for the murder of George Floyd?
Many people would say that he should. Those people are known as idiots.

It wasn't a landslide in 2016 and it will likely be a close race again this year.
It was a landslide. Look at the electoral map.
Be sure to educate yourself on how the electoral process works before doing that.
"muh popular vote" is irrelevant when it's just LA and NY (especially when there's a good chance the popular vote was won by fraud).

I predicted in Jan 2016 that Trump would win re-election (when everyone was laughing at me and telling me that Trump would be soon be removed or arrested).
I didn't expect all of these external factors but it still seems like he's on track to win and the Dems have nobody to blame but themselves.
They could've admitted their faults, cleaned house, formed a legitimate platform and put forth a viable candidate.
Instead they doubled down, continued to lie, made their platform even more insane and put forth a demented pedo as their first choice.

It's been a lot of uphill for him. I don't care what people say. "Down 7% in the polls" PEOPLE DO NOT REMEMBER 2016 AND IT SCARES ME. I remember it. I wasn't mentally BRAIN DEAD then. These are ADULTS saying/reporting this shit... do they have no idea what happened four years ago??

People underestimate his voter base. Hillary was a better candidate than Biden. There's no way Dems will win in my opinion. They didn't care about the 20+ accusers in 2016... why would they care now?

I'm glad someone gets it.
It's funny I listen to this white nationalist podcast once in a while to see what they're talking about and they're all convinced that Trump will not win this year. The reason why is because they hate Trump for forsaking them. They think he's another zionist pawn of israel and the establishment, and they think that most of white America feel similarly and will therefore not be as excited to go out and vote for him as they did in '16.
I disagree with them as I don't think most Trump supporters care that much about those issues. They (overall) see a benefit by having Trump in the oval office so they'll support their guy.
 
I didn't even address you Grimez, and you still somehow manage to quote me and then go on about pedophilia.

You're never on topic.
 
haven't seen any explicit mention of this here yet:

Civil rights groups sue Trump over assault on peaceful protesters near White House

Protesters were forcefully removed from a park near the White House before Trump walked to a nearby church to take a photo

The American Civil Liberties Union and other civil rights groups are suing Donald Trump, William Barr and other federal officials over the assault on peaceful protesters near the White House on Monday, to allow the president to hold a photo op at a historic church.

According to a release from the ACLU of the District of Columbia, the lawsuit filed on behalf of Black Lives Matter DC and individual protesters accuses Trump and the other officials are accused of “violating their constitutional rights and engaging in an unlawful conspiracy to violate those rights”.

The Washington Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs, Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and the law firm of Arnold & Porter also filed the suit.

making america great again by trampling citizen's rights? :\

alasdair
 
The Trump campaign's lawyers demanded CNN retract and apologize for a poll that showed Trump 14 points behind Biden

Lawyers for President Donald Trump's re-election campaign demanded that CNN retract and apologize for an unfavorable poll released Monday that showed former Vice President Joe Biden leading Trump by 14 percentage points nationally.

The poll, conducted for CNN by SSRS, surveyed 1,259 registered voters by live-caller telephone interviews between June 2 and 5. It found that Trump has an approval rating of 38% and a disapproval rating of 57%, his lowest in over a year.

When respondents were asked who they would vote for if the presidential election were held that day, 55% said they would vote for Biden and 41% would vote for Trump.

Trump, who has frequently railed against polling he dislikes on Twitter, tweeted on Monday that he felt the CNN poll and other recent surveys "were FAKE based on the incredible enthusiasm we are receiving," and said he retained pollster McLaughlin & Associates to "analyze" the poll.

that's the president of the united states, people. the president.

what a fucking baby.

alasdair
 
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