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US Politics The 2020 Trump Presidency Thread

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JessFR said:
Your vote may not count in the 1 for 1 way it probably should, but it does count.

So please for the love of God vote.

Trump supporters on the other hand, don't worry you're right he will win by a landslide so there's no need for you to bother voting, he's got plenty of votes.
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Oh don't worry I am going to vote, it was more to let the rest of the world know, that we are aware of the "situation" pertaining to the election.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
And the left criticizes Trump for a lack of class. smh. Any idea how outraged the left would be if the right reacted this way to Biden/Harris testing positive?
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I'm not "the left" or "the right". I'm just me.
And as for my take on it, well yeah, I'm gonna be a lot happier about a man getting sick when that man is a threat to the whole world, than I am a man who I'm largely indifferent about.

And yeah I'm not gonna hold myself to quite the same standards I probably would if I were president. Cause I'm not. I don't have millions of people looking to me for guidance.

I don't really see anything hypocritical about that.
 
I think if Trump is expecting to garner sympathy here, getting mild symptoms is going to fail hardcore. He would have to get extremely sick, in my opinion, to achieve that.
 
Deru said:
I think if Trump is expecting to garner sympathy here, getting mild symptoms is going to fail hardcore. He would have to get extremely sick, in my opinion, to achieve that.
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LOL there will be NO SYMPATHY!

You've got the HOAX crowd, who don't believe the virus is real.
Then you've got the "but it kills less than the flu" crowd
You've got the "it only kills old people" crowd
You've got the "it only kills unhealthy people with pre-existing conditions" crowd
And you've got the "it doesn't kill, the pre-existing conditions kill" crowd

All of which are morons

AND You've got MANY Americans who took the virus VERY seriously who will HAVE NO SYMPATHY for the fools who scoffed at science and face masks.

The man cannot gather sympathy for himself; no one will feel sorry for him when his ice cream is dropped.
 
cduggles said:
And, two days later, Trump finally condemns white supremacy after giving it a(nother) pass. I wonder who nudged him along that road.

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

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Some funny comments in the news articles.

The only time Trump shut his mouth is when he was asked to condemn white supremacy.

Looks like RBG argued her first case in front of God.

:D
 
I'm torn between rooting for the virus and being scared shitless of a president pence. Goddamn cognitive dissonance....

The fact that Trump is febrile and receiving the maximum dose of the experimental monoclonal antibody infusion leads me to think he may be sicker than the WH is letting on in public.
 
www.nytimes.com

Chris Wallace, Awaiting Virus Test, Tells Fox News Viewers: ‘Wear the Damn Mask’ (Published 2020)

The anchor, who sat about 12 feet from President Trump at Tuesday’s debate, also criticized one of Mr. Trump’s pandemic advisers.
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Chris Wallace, Awaiting Virus Test, Tells Fox News Viewers: ‘Wear the Damn Mask’

The anchor, who sat about 12 feet from President Trump at Tuesday’s debate, also criticized one of Mr. Trump’s pandemic advisers.

By Michael M. Grynbaum
Oct. 2, 2020
Updated 4:50 p.m. ET

Chris Wallace, the Fox News anchor who sat within 12 feet of President Trump while moderating Tuesday’s presidential debate in Cleveland, has some stark advice for his network’s viewers: “Wear the damn mask.”

Appearing Friday on “Fox & Friends” and other Fox News programs, Mr. Wallace repeatedly emphasized the threat of the coronavirus, pointed out the lack of qualifications of one of Mr. Trump’s top medical advisers, and said he was acutely aware of his potential exposure after the president had tested positive for the virus.

Several Fox News opinion hosts have accused much of the national news media of overstating the dangers of the virus, while defending Mr. Trump’s prerogative to hold large rallies on the campaign trail against the advice of health experts. One frequent Fox News guest who downplayed the risks, Dr. Scott Atlas, has since become a top pandemic adviser to the president.

On Friday, Mr. Wallace was unequivocal in warning against Dr. Atlas’s advice — even as his colleague, the Fox News anchor Sandra Smith, teased an exclusive interview with Dr. Atlas in which the doctor said he expected Mr. Trump would make a full recovery and return to the campaign trail.

“I’m going to say something and, folks, I’m just trying to give you the truth,” Mr. Wallace said. “Dr. Scott Atlas is not an epidemiologist, is not an infectious disease expert — he has no training in this area at all. There are a number of top people on the president’s coronavirus task force who have had grave concerns about Scott Atlas and his scientific bona fides.”

“I know I’m going to get a lot of pushback from this,” Mr. Wallace continued, adding: “Listen to people like Anthony Fauci, listen to people like Deborah Birx, who have been largely cut off. Listen to the independent people who do not have a political ax to grind, and I frankly don’t think Scott Atlas is one of those people.”

Recounting his experience at Tuesday’s debate, Mr. Wallace told viewers that members of Mr. Trump’s family removed their masks after entering the debate hall in violation of the rules of the Cleveland Clinic, which had been contracted to oversee the health and safety protocols for the event. “A health person from the Cleveland Clinic came up to the first family when they were seated and offered them masks in case they didn’t have them, and they were waved away,” the anchor recalled.

Mr. Wallace — who said his wife and children, who also attended, wore masks in the hall — estimated that he was sitting “10 or 12 feet” from Mr. Trump and that the candidates were roughly eight feet apart onstage. “I never got any closer to him than what you saw on TV,” he said.

In a later appearance on Friday, Mr. Wallace pushed back when a Fox News panelist, Melissa Francis, asked him how the president’s positive test might affect Mr. Biden’s campaigning strategy.

“That’s not the story today,” Mr. Wallace said, adding: “To me the takeaway of this whole thing is to follow the science.”
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I'm hoping the trend continues and everyone starts finally turning on Trump's toxic hold on this country and we can resume not catering to the lowest common denominators.

Also, why so worried about pushback? Going against the Fox News narrative, perhaps?
 
JessFR said:
Ehh, deteriorating probably just means he's clearly sick now.

Most of these cases far as I'm aware don't usually get really bad till as much as a week in.
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Definitely. I'm just thinking if he's already exhibiting symptoms so soon, it's likely it will continue to get worse. Although he does have the absolute best possible medical care possible, so that will probably mitigate a lot of it, I'm still thinking it's a potential sign of how severe the disease will become.

He already has a low grade fever, too, so that's a bad sign compared to Melania's symptoms.
 
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