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US Politics The 2020 Trump Presidency Thread

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Egads. Don't forget: there was no limit as to how many tickets were available for the rally.

I ADORE the K-pop kids.

But in the end, still, only 6,200 people showed up to the Klan rally. The MAGATs simply didn't show.

Try to spin it as you may.... 😂
 
Don't forget that they were putting out press releases about the seat availability hours before the speech started. In 2016 Trump could have filled that arena in 10 minutes.

this really is a problem for trump. Trump won in 16 because of the massive enthusiasm. He made up for his other deficiencies with his base. And because everyone hated hilliary

No one really hates Biden. They don't love him but they don't hate him. Every single person in this country who hates Trump is going to vote Biden.

the most rabid Trump people will show up, but some of the ones who aren't batshit insane may stay home.

ive always said trump would win again, but my confidence level is going down a little
 
I will also vote Biden to get Trump out, sadly. I would prefer Biden to Trump. I think Trump served a purpose, which was to shake things up, but I really, really do not want to see the damage he can do with another 4 years. I would vastly prefer Sanders or a variety of other potential Dem candidates but c'est la vie, unfortunately due to our political system this is not possible. Once again, we are faced with the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

We really need to abolish the electoral college system and just go with popular vote. If we just counted the votes and went with popular vote, and ignore the party affiliation and abolish the primaries, people would feel empowered to actually vote for the candidate they felt would be the best option. Additionally we could implement a ranked vote system so that you rank your choices from first to last, so there was weighting. I believe moving to this sort of system would go a long way in making elections actually representative of what the people want, and giving all candidates a fair shake.
 
Hey all. It's been awhile.

I agree things look bad for this President, as some Republicans are distancing themselves from him. The shills and sycophants are still at his side though.

The sheer ridiculousness of his propaganda machine is just sad at this point, but still strangely feeding his mindless base everything they need to want to know about their favorite deranged demagogue.

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/related reading: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/trump-holds-controversial-indoor-rally-in-tulsa-updates.html
 
Nicholai said:
He was the author of the Rave Act!!
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WTF? I didn't even know that.
Is there any other piece of legislation which was more damaging to the electronic dance music community?

Couple that with Biden's policies which destroyed black families - how can anyone here justify voting for Biden over Trump?

It's become cheering for a team at this point
 
The bill was sponsored by Senator Joseph Biden, along with cosponsors Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch, Joseph Lieberman, Strom Thurmond, Patrick Leahy and Richard Durbin.

RAVE act said:
Most of the public commentary regarding the RAVE Act centered on the prologue section of the bill titled "Findings."[3] Such sections do not create new substantive law but serve as guidance to the judiciary in interpreting the law and the executive in enforcing the law. Among the items listed in the "Findings" section include statements regarding rave promoters providing "chill rooms" and bottled water for large fees, where participants can go and cool down from the body-temperature-raising effects of ecstasy; and selling "neon glow sticks; massage oils; menthol nasal inhalers; and pacifiers that are used to combat the involuntary teeth clenching associated with ecstasy."[2]

Specifically, many were concerned that these expansive definitions might permit the police to arrest and charge concert promoters under this law so long as glow sticks and bottled water were present.[4] Congress was also accused of picking an easy, public target so as to continue support for the War on Drugs.[3] Others were concerned that too much responsibility would be placed on concert promoters to police their patrons.[5] Also, many were concerned that their First Amendment right to freedom of assembly would be violated were the law enacted.[6]
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JGrimez said:
This is crazy.
A drug forum arguing that the guy who sponsored the RAVE act should be president.
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It actually really responsible harm reduction.

I don't think Trump is as good of a politician as I once thought. He should have taken the high road after his impeachment. Became an actual President and unifying leader. Stopped acting like a child on Twitter.

I mean, this election is really his to lose. He has a more passionate base, he beat Mueller, Democrats are self destructing ... shit. If he would have just controlled himself a little , he could be ahead 15 points right now.

But the people in the suburbs , especially the women, are just not going to show up for him. They're tired of the chaos.

IDK, maybe the Dems made a smart move betting this would be a return to normalcy election. People just want to switch off and let global warming take us. We could have made up for lost time with Bernie but fuck it.
 
mal3volent said:
It actually really responsible harm reduction.
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lol responsible harm reduction would be - don't do dangerous drugs at all.
Call it whatever you like though.

I'm old enough to remember when the RAVE Act almost singlehandedly destroyed the rave scene.
If I had told this forum back then they'd be voting for the sponsor of that bill to be president in the future they would've laughed and thrown glowsticks at me.

mal3volent said:
I mean, this election is really his to lose. He has a more passionate base, he beat Mueller, Democrats are self destructing ... shit. If he would have just controlled himself a little , he could be ahead 15 points right now.
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We can't trust the polls at all. We don't know who is ahead or by how much and anything can change until then. I do agree it is his election to lose.
I reckon we'll see some massive October surprises though (if the 2nd sun doesn't appear).

mal3volent said:
But the people in the suburbs , especially the women, are just not going to show up for him. They're tired of the chaos.
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Indeed they're petrified of the chaos caused by leftist protesters and may stay home for their own safety (would that be classified as terrorism?)

mal3volent said:
maybe the Dems made a smart move betting this would be a return to normalcy election.
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Demented normalcy?
The kicker here is that Trump is now more normal than Biden.

mal3volent said:
People just want to switch off and let global warming take us.
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Except what's taking us is the earth cooling right now and that's about to be a rude shock for a lot of people.
Global warming would be just what we need (historically cultures thrived in warmer times).
 
mal3volent said:
Another crushing defeat for the Trump Administration at the SCOTUS:

SUPREME COURT BLOCKS PLAN TO END DACA
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How Trump Can Weaponize the DACA Decision and Cut Taxes | Opinion

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Thanks to the Supreme Court, however, Trump could do more. Under the Court's decision upholding the Obama administration's deferred immigration programs last week, Trump could unilaterally cut income taxes by 50 percent, accelerate infrastructure projects and cut red tape for starting new businesses. He could create a "recovery permit" that would give businesses the right to sidestep agency red tape, burdensome environmental regulations and onerous obstacles to opening new enterprises.
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According to Regents, presidents can now stop enforcing laws they dislike, hand out permits or benefits that run contrary to acts of Congress and prevent their successors from repealing their policies for several years. This gives Trump the opportunity to jump-start an economic recovery by declining to enforce the tax laws and economic regulations—shall we call it an economic deferred action program, EDAP? Just as Obama refused to enforce the immigration laws, Trump can decline to fully enforce the tax laws. While Obama offered humanitarian reasons for helping the DREAM-ers, Trump could argue that he is helping the poorest Americans, those hardest hit by the COVID economic collapse, and that he is accelerating an economic recovery from the pandemic shutdowns.
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Tax cuts would provide an enormous boost to the economy, far greater than the proposals kicking around Congress, such as temporarily suspending the payroll tax or extending unemployment insurance. Rather than keep the unemployed on public assistance, it could give them the incentive to work and keep more of their own pay. The prospect of reaping more of the benefits of their own risk-taking and entrepreneurship would encourage the middle class to start opening more small businesses. A unilateral tax cut favoring the poor would answer attacks on Trump that he does not care about minorities or the inner cities. Cutting taxes to zero for the poor could provide the most immediate, direct financial boost for minorities hit hardest by the pandemic.

Trump could go even farther to restart the economy. If he wants to boost infrastructure spending, he could issue permits allowing federally financed or regulated construction projects to go forward. He could waive all federal requirements for approval, such as the years required to go through environmental reviews, and suspend conditions that drive up the costs of construction projects (such as the Davis-Bacon Act, which require federal projects to pay high union wages). All it requires is for the president to defer action under environmental laws, permitting regulations and other excessive federal laws.

Critics would say that this economic deferred action program would violate the law, because the president would not be fulfilling his responsibility to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." But, according to the Supreme Court's DACA opinion, presidents now can use their prosecutorial discretion to set the enforcement level for any federal law at zero.

If Trump wins re-election this November, the tax cuts and recovery permits could remain good for the next five years. Even if Joe Biden wins, the Court's decision means that it could well take at least two years for his administration to repeal the Trump program. In the meantime, the poorest Americans will have more money in their pockets to save and spend and more American businesses can get back to work faster.
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Emphasis is mine.

While the above is entirely an opinion piece listing things Trump 'could do', it does paint the door opened by this SCOTUS decision. Giving Trump a legal path to implementing things a decent portion of the population are against while making it very difficult to rescind or counter. The left probably thought it was fine for Obama to do, but should be in horror at Trumping being given that authority. Moreover, he just got a blank check to do whatever he needs to boost his chances for re-election (improve the economy, and while we're at it, deal with the riots that are currently at city-state levels of concern, or infringe further on individual rights for the sake of public safety, the list goes on).
 
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