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The 2019 Trump Presidency Thread

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TheLoveBandit said:
Leave a mark. And while there is a self centered aspect to it, not all are after the personal recognition as much as they are after 'make a mark'. In my mind, it is an individual's desire, but the mark left is less about the person and more about the situation. What was it like before they arrived? What was it like after? Was that good or bad? Did they make a mark? Not WHO was it, but WHAT was it they did?
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From the beginning I saw that as a plus. Trump has a massive ego quite proud and narcissistic, he wants more than anything for his legacy to show that he was the greatest president of all time. I personally think that his intentions were good but maybe didn't know exactly what he was up against with the existing establishment. All things considered so far so good.


alasdairm said:
i'll draw the only obvious conclusion.
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Why don't you try drawing conclusions to things that are relevant?

alasdairm said:
seriously, if he's the genius he keeps telling us he is, why isn't he encouraging the release of these results?
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Dude we already know he's a genius. Billionare mogul and celebrity, also President, and now sitting down with NK at the table, something George Dubya and Obomber failed to do. If it takes a bumbling clueless billionare to de-escalate nuclear tensions, then how good were the "qualified" people before him doing? And if someone with hypothetically average grades can achieve what he has then that's an amazing success story played out by a remarkable individual, wouldn't you agree?
 
Remind me again how many times he's filed for bankruptcy again? Oh yeah I bet that's just his brilliant genius plan from the beginning.
 
^ i see what you've tried to do here :)

JGrimez said:
Also this is the exact opposite of what you should do.
You judge someone on their actions, not their words.
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calling b.s. you judge people based on their words here many, many times a day. so, please, don't give me that crap.

and i do judge his actions. he threatened a school not to release his scores? what an insecure, petty douchebag he is.

alasdair
 
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Can we seriously make Korea great again by going back to war with DPRK? Please?

Fumbling on this is why Donald might lose his re-election. I am already predicting he'll get re-elected but this is a huge issue for many of us. We want RESOLUTION.
 
alasdairm said:
calling b.s. you judge people based on their words here many, many times a day. so, please, don't give me that crap.
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Because that's all I have to go on. I can't see you from here mate.

NewFaceSameTripper said:
Remind me again how many times he's filed for bankruptcy again? Oh yeah I bet that's just his brilliant genius plan from the beginning.
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Was it 5 or 6 bankruptcies out of 515 successful companies?
First woman to oversee construction of a skyscraper was under Trump - guess he hired her so he could pay less!

Captain.Heroin said:
Can we seriously make Korea great again by going back to war with DPRK? Please?
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Why do you want so many innocent ppl to die over nothing? You should work for the deep state

alasdairm said:
he threatened a school not to release his scores? what an insecure, petty douchebag he is.
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Sooo how about that NK situation? You never answered my question. Situation gotten worse, better or neutral since Trump came on the scene?
 
JGrimez said:
Because that's all I have to go on.
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you judge someone on their actions, not their words. can't remember where i read that.

JGrimez said:
Was it 5 or 6 bankruptcies out of 515 successful companies?
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it was 6. but those are just the bankruptcies. and , oh, were they something - the taj mahal was $3 billion in debt after just one year in business. a casino is about as close to a legal money-printing machine as you can get and he managed to fuck that up.

he has numerous other failed business that just went out of business...

trump airlines: started with a $245 million loan. after 2 years in business he couldn't even cover the monthly interest payment on the loan and he defaulted.

trump mortgage: in april 2006 trump declared "the real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." the housing market collapsed a few months later and went out of business in 2007. trump blamed the ceo whom the website described as a "top executive of one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks". in fact, he was a stockbroker with just 6 months experience. he only hires the best people.

trump steaks: 2 months of terrible sales then bust.

gotrump.com: it was going to take over travel booking, leaving sites like travelocity in the dust. closed after a year. not so much.

trump university: most people know what happened here. donald 'i never, ever settle a lawsuit' trump settled that lawsuit for $25 million in 2018.

trump vodka: it flopped and trump's prediction that the 'trump & tonic' would become the most requested cocktail in american sadly never came to be...

et. cetera

he seems to be bringing some of his business talent to the u.s. deficit:

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i guess when the shit hits the fan he'll just have the u.s. declare bankruptcy and move on to the next country?

JGrimez said:
Sooo how about that NK situation? You never answered my question. Situation gotten worse, better or neutral since Trump came on the scene?
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neutral.

alasdair
 
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alasdairm said:
neutral.
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So you can't even admit the situation has objectively improved, without even having to give credit to Trump. How do you not see the leaders of the two Koreas pledging no war and Kim is not firing missiles over Japan anymore.

Some of us have very short or selective memories
 
Some of us perhaps don't think much of the words of a despot or Trump, a liar.

Their deeds were to abandon a summit early. (Maybe it was just too much fantastic?)

South Korea is just trying to survive, probably because Trump doesn't even know we have a couple of treaties in the region.
 
JGrimez said:
So you can't even admit the situation has objectively improved, without even having to give credit to Trump. How do you not see the leaders of the two Koreas pledging no war and Kim is not firing missiles over Japan anymore.
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a pledge is just words. you judge someone on their actions, not their words. can't remember where i read that. trump pledged to build a wall and that mexico would pay for it.

sure, they haven't tested a missile in a while but in june last year kim jong un affirmed his "firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula" yet they continue to produce weapons-grade plutonium and enriched uranium and there's no plan for - or even tentative agreement on - a mechanism or timeline for dismantling their nuclear weapons. i'll go ahead and judge him on his actions rather than his words and infer that his commitment to complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula is a little shaky at best.

and why would you believe them anyway? in 1999 they agreed to a moratorium on long range tests, affirming it in 2002 and 2004, before starting up again in 2005. their actions demonstrate that their word is not worth much.

JGrimez said:
Some of us have very short or selective memories
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you sure seem to :)

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
trump's prediction that the 'trump & tonic' would become the most requested cocktail in american sadly never came to be...
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"Everything we've touched has been a big success," Trump said at a separate vodka launch party in New York in 2008. "We launched a vodka that became tremendously successful. My book just went to number one and we think the vodka, likewise, will be number one. It's been one of the most successful launches ever in the history of this business."

https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/vvqywd/i-tasted-donald-trumps-defunct-golden-vodka

Derp.
 
derp indeed.

hey, at least there's none of the usual hypocrisy with trump threatening a school to not release his grades...

wait. what?

what a fucking surprise: Trump: Obama a "Terrible Student" Not Good Enough for Harvard

president trump said:
I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records.
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(my emphasis)

douchebag.

alasdair
 
I think political and presidential positions tend to attract narcissists in general but I've never seen one to this degree! Trump's ego is so fragile it's just crazy.
 
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