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The 2018 Trump Presidency thread

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^Really, you guys need to get over your antifa obsession. I don't go about crying about white nationalists. Would you argue that they (white nationalists) make up at most a small fraction of Trump supporters like say, 3%? What percentage of... whatever antifa people support, are antifas? 50%? Perhaps it's the whole damn democrat voting population.... dear God, 60% of our country is antifa?!? Declare martial law! Shut the schools down! Send in the National Guard! Do not stop until at least 50% of our population has been locked up or left dying in the streets!!!


Seriously though, get over it. Stop saying, '...but Antifa!' to fucking everything. It's repetitive, dull, and obsessive.
 
Even if they are a small percentage, they are the ones increasing violent assaults on days that trump rallies occur by a little over 10%. Unless you are trying to say that it's not just the antifa and it's also the rest of the intolerant Trump opposition.
 
^I would argue that it's both parties, yes.

I'm not trying to be rude Jah, I just find it very annoying that people who support Mr. Trump see fit to ignore the violence within their own ranks yet seem to think that the entirety of the Democrat voting population condones/participates in antifa activities.
 
I would agree with that, but until tathra or anyone else posts some proof, I will stick to what I see.

The two most high profile assaults have been against Trump supporters afaik.

Richard Spencer and then the bike lock assaults by the professor.

find me Trump supporters getting arrested for attacking protestors and I will eat my words.
 
Well, if we're not talking protests, then there was that skinhead in Oregon who stabbed two (or was it three) people when two men told him to leave some Muslim girls alone on a train. Both the men defending the girls died of their wounds. I don't know if we could classify that man as being directly related to Trump, but something tells me that it wouldn't have happened in the years prior to Trump. People have always been intolerant of outsiders, now many feel it's socially acceptable to try and kill them.

Oh yeah, there was that person who drove a car into a crowd of protesters at Charlottesville, killing 1 and injuring dozens. If that wasn't a Trump extremist, I don't know what is then.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
Well, if we're not talking protests, then there was that skinhead in Oregon who stabbed two (or was it three) people when two men told him to leave some Muslim girls alone on a train. Both the men defending the girls died of their wounds. I don't know if we could classify that man as being directly related to Trump, but something tells me that it wouldn't have happened in the years prior to Trump. People have always been intolerant of outsiders, now many feel it's socially acceptable to try and kill them.

Oh yeah, there was that person who drove a car into a crowd of protesters at Charlottesville, killing 1 and injuring dozens. If that wasn't a Trump extremist, I don't know what is then.
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Well tathra, was talking assault at protests, so I was sticking with that.

Yea, the car into protesters was v bad. Probably not charged as assault, so not in tathra's numbers, but I concede that.

Just seems that a larger volume of violence at these rallies/protests is being committed by the left leaning supporters.

The article was about the number of assaults going up and I think that it is silly to pin it on just one side. Although, I guess you could make the argument that Trump breeds some sort of hate, in his own supporters and his opposition.
 
JahSEEuS said:
I would agree with that, but until tathra or anyone else posts some proof, I will stick to what I see.

The two most high profile assaults have been against Trump supporters afaik.

Richard Spencer and then the bike lock assaults by the professor.

find me Trump supporters getting arrested for attacking protestors and I will eat my words.
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I think the assault in Charlottesville when a trump supporter ran a car over a bunch of Innocents was the most high profile attack

Then several of them ganged up on a single black kid at that same event and beat him unconscious. They were wanted for arrest don't know if they were caught.

Dyaln roof is a trump supporter.

Nikolaz Cruz was a trump supporter.

A trump supporter not long ago shot two indian men at a bar for being Muslim even though they weren't.

Amazing how you seemed to forget about that one. Try objectivity for a change.
 
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It's funny because the reason I am even commenting in here is to get people to realize that it's both sides. When the OP seems to be taking aim at one side of it I just naturally feel compelled to point out that it happens on the other side. If this was a more right leaning forum I would bring up opposite points. But it is predominantly left leaning, so I make sure to get the other side out too.

In re: to "the black kid"


You mean DeAndre Harris, the "black kid," who was seen swinging a flashlight around and connecting with another human being before getting hit back?
 
JahSEEuS said:
It's funny because the reason I am even commenting in here is to get people to realize that it's both sides. When the OP seems to be taking aim at one side of it I just naturally feel compelled to point out that it happens on the other side. If this was a more right leaning forum I would bring up opposite points. But it is predominantly left leaning, so I make sure to get the other side out too.

In re: to "the black kid"


You mean DeAndre Harris, the "black kid," who was seen swinging a flashlight around and connecting with another human being before getting hit back?
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I guess fake news only aired the part where 5 guys were kicking him and beating him with 2 by fours while he was on the ground.

You weren't just pointing to the other side of the coin. You we're proclaiming that nobody could provide you examples and it's all antifa being violent. You're welcome for reminding you otherwise
 
JahSEEuS said:
I would agree with that, but until tathra or anyone else posts some proof, I will stick to what I see.
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thats not how proof works. study shows trump rallies increase violence. you made the claim that "its only people that oppose trump that are attacking the poor, innocent trump supporter victims who only want to peacefully voice their opinions and never wish to ever harm a single hair on anyone!". that means its on you to provide proof to back up your claim.

The two most high profile assaults have been against Trump supporters afaik.
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i'd say the most high profile assault was where a nazi murdered a non-violent protester and injured a bunchy of others by driving his car into a crowd of innocents.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
"Whistleblower"... isn't facebook exclusively there for social/networking connections?

Do people really need to log into facebook and take posts they read there seriously? Are we still blaming facebook for Hillary's loss? A lot of people attribute Obama's success to this kind of grassroots political organization.
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Although Facebook may be a large network system, no doubt about that. But I believe it doesn't have that much power to the point we could attribute Hilary's loss because of that. Also, I trust that Obama's success was definitely his own not because of Facebook. Of course it was divulged by social media but he made his own Success IMO.
 
If one ignores his twits, and all the crazy stuff he says to rabid fans at his show, he is a half way decent president. In keeping the govt small (since the dems won't confirm anyone), and by reducing regulations, cutting taxes, he makes libertarians happy. And the economy is booming. Hope he doesnt mess it up!
 
Trumps Nobel PEACE???? prize!

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Interesting article from The Independent suggesting Trump might really be in line for a Nobel Peace prize if he manages to get NK to drop the nuclear arms:Read the rest here
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Yes, such an enlightened,promoter of equality and justice, So insightful and understanding of social issues , the absolute FUCKWITT,I've just heard , believes the way forward for the drug "epidemic " in the u.s, includes the DEATH PENALTY and just cutting off supply. Cos yeah, people can't get high, that's right, they just think " well,better go engage with society and become a good little robot, then. " Wonder how the fucking retard explains the extreme extent of desire for that led to the advent of 'crocodile' in Russia, or any number of other examples of the pursuit of alternative medicines when the shitwits in charge start being holier than tho pricks!!!!! I despair, Britain normally follows
 
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If one ignores his twits, and all the crazy stuff he says to rabid fans at his show, he is a half way decent president. In keeping the govt small (since the dems won't confirm anyone), and by reducing regulations, cutting taxes, he makes libertarians happy. And the economy is booming. Hope he doesnt mess it up!
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The economy was already on an upward trajectory from the recession before trump came in.

And just because the rich and Wall Street are doing great now is hardly a baromter for well being of avaerage Americans.

Trump has turned the social fabric of the US into chaos...and the white house as well. But hey if rich people are getting richer and you save 2oo dollars a month on taxes that's all that really matters right?

Do you honestly believe there is any energy being expended on anything besides damage control at the white house?
 
It's often said that you don't see the results of a presidency for at least 4-8 years. Change takes a long time to propagate through an economy/society. So the fact that the economy is doing better right now when Trump has been in office for such a short time cannot be attributed to him or his policies. Let's revisit what we think of his effect on the economy once he's not president anymore. Of course, then they'll just blame whoever IS in office for the problems of the past. Just like they credit Trump now for the successes of the present.

But seriously, people who study political science and economics understand that change takes time, and the current state of the economy could not possibly be because of Trump policies because there hasn't been enough time.
 
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