treezy z
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What does he have to do? Ask the IRS? Get a subpoena? If he doesn't have them he is completely incompetent. He got a warrant to raid his lawyers office. He can get the damn tax returns.
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treezy z
Bluelighter
Also they may have even been in the lawyers office if he somehow couldn't get a subpoena.
DrewDogBaby209
Bluelighter
Some ex-prosecutor from the Watergate trial said the first thing Robert Mueller would get would be his tax returns. they haven't leaked because Robert Mueller is a professional
DrewDogBaby209
Bluelighter
Please name something that has leaked from Robert Mueller? Don't worry I'll wait.... Actually no I won't. I'm going to bed. Fuck trump
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DrewDogBaby209
Bluelighter
Trump is a horrible human being
DrewDogBaby209
Bluelighter
The only things that get leaked are by Trump's own people in the White House... "I only hire the best."
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
I imagine Mueller is having a hard time getting the returns. Likely a few days after Trump took office he bribed someone in the IRS to purge all the data the US gov't had on him. Then he's going to play cat and mouse with all the paper back ups, all the people with first-hand knowledge, etc. Or he had them altered. Who knows?
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
I hadn't considered the question, but you're right. There's absolutely no way Mueller doesn't have them by now. I can only guess his reasons for not charging Trump with something by now.
Dude, you're grasping at straws here. Step back and assess reality. There is NO WAY he doesn't have them by now. IRS is not going to do Trump any favors, and he can't force them to do anything.
DrewDogBaby209 is probably the most correct here. While leaks abound DC, I'm not recalling any with Mueller and the investigation. Regardless of motivations or intent, I can't say his work has been leaking. One may challenge where he is looking, and what he is looking for, but for anything found he hasn't spilled it to the MSM who would assuredly be trying to blast it out if they got anything.
iridescentblack
Bluelighter
Just got the "presidential alert" on my phone from FEMA.
“The President will not originate this alert, say, from his mobile device,” a senior FEMA official told reporters on Tuesday. “You would not have a situation where any sitting president would wake up one morning and attempt to send a particular message.”
http://kxlh.com/news/2018/10/03/fema-cell-phone-alert-test-will-be-sent-out-on-wednesday/
So glad about that part. Trump would be Tweeting on a whole new level.
“The President will not originate this alert, say, from his mobile device,” a senior FEMA official told reporters on Tuesday. “You would not have a situation where any sitting president would wake up one morning and attempt to send a particular message.”
http://kxlh.com/news/2018/10/03/fema-cell-phone-alert-test-will-be-sent-out-on-wednesday/
So glad about that part. Trump would be Tweeting on a whole new level.
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I'd get rid of my cell phone and go back to landlines if somehow Trump was allowed to message me lol
treezy z
Bluelighter
Trump 50% approval
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
lack of a source means you're likely making this number up.
treezy z
Bluelighter
DrewDogBaby209
Bluelighter
50%... Nice try but it's more between 32 and 35... that source that you put up highly favors Republicans. I have been watching and following politics for 15 years I am a political junkie.
Read this link that says rasmussenreports highly favors the gop and Trump
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...ollster-rasmussen-research-has-a-pro-gop-bias
"Rasmussen poll were bias and inaccurate" -NY times
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytim...rate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/
Trump tweeted this earlier... Like were going to trust a Trump tweet
Read this link that says rasmussenreports highly favors the gop and Trump
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...ollster-rasmussen-research-has-a-pro-gop-bias
"Rasmussen poll were bias and inaccurate" -NY times
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytim...rate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/
Trump tweeted this earlier... Like were going to trust a Trump tweet
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treezy z
Bluelighter
Yeah, have fun with your "real" polls (NYT 98% chance of Hillary win.)
Seems most Americans are still against lynchings and witch trials. (Kavanaugh stuff seems to be helping the GOP greatly.)
Both those articles are old as shit, almost every poll was wrong in 2016.
Seems most Americans are still against lynchings and witch trials. (Kavanaugh stuff seems to be helping the GOP greatly.)
Both those articles are old as shit, almost every poll was wrong in 2016.
a single source treezy z?
better to look at aggregate data which takes into account recency, sample size, partisan leaning and such and attempts to generate as impartial a result as possible.
that's what 538 attempts to do (see: how this works)
they currently have his approval/disapproval at 42.1%/52.4%
looking at poll history, i went back to the start of august and calculated the average for all polls except rasmussen and rasmussen. all other polls average is 41.5%.rasmussen is 47.3% - a full 5.8% higher...
alasdair
better to look at aggregate data which takes into account recency, sample size, partisan leaning and such and attempts to generate as impartial a result as possible.
that's what 538 attempts to do (see: how this works)
they currently have his approval/disapproval at 42.1%/52.4%
looking at poll history, i went back to the start of august and calculated the average for all polls except rasmussen and rasmussen. all other polls average is 41.5%.rasmussen is 47.3% - a full 5.8% higher...
alasdair
treezy z
Bluelighter
I don't trust 538 at all after they badly miscalled Trump's election.
treezy z
Bluelighter
I also don't care about aggregate polls unless they also aggregate who was sampled (D, R, independent.) If you aggregate bad polls that over-sample one side or the other you are just averaging junk data.
I'm not saying the Rasmussen poll is perfect but they try to have a sample that represents the number of democrats/republicans accurately, as well as other factors. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology
I'm not saying the Rasmussen poll is perfect but they try to have a sample that represents the number of democrats/republicans accurately, as well as other factors. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
42 is really high considering W Bush was close to 10? towards the end of his presidency.
^ most presidents end with a low approval e.g.
carter: 48.1% compared to a high of 74.9%
reagan: 42.0% compared to a high of 68%
bush: 66.0% compared to a high of 78.3%
clinton: 44.4% compared to a high of 60.9%
bush: 62.8% compared to a high of 88.1%
obama: 46.7% compared to a high of 65.3%
it's interesting to note that trump's highest approval is pretty close to the lowest approval rating for his 6 predecessors (3 democrats and 3 republicans).
spin it however you like, trump is very unpopular.
which do you feel are unreliable and why?
alasdair
carter: 48.1% compared to a high of 74.9%
reagan: 42.0% compared to a high of 68%
bush: 66.0% compared to a high of 78.3%
clinton: 44.4% compared to a high of 60.9%
bush: 62.8% compared to a high of 88.1%
obama: 46.7% compared to a high of 65.3%
it's interesting to note that trump's highest approval is pretty close to the lowest approval rating for his 6 predecessors (3 democrats and 3 republicans).
spin it however you like, trump is very unpopular.
i can only assume you didn't bother to read the link.
i'm starting to think that, like trump himself, you only like polls which make him look good...
what does that even mean. 538's aggregate of polls is exactly that - an aggregate of who was sampled.
sure. here's a list of all the polls gathered by 538:
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which do you feel are unreliable and why?
alasdair
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