The old mega thread was archived recently and I think this stimulant deserves a lot more attention.
2-FA is a halogenated amphetamine most often compared to 4-FA with less euphoria. I think this has prevented it from being as popular, despite being more useful in the opinion of the people I know who have used both. It seems to be a bit more potent by weight, with a productive 5-6 hour dose of 20 mg oral and a recreational threshold around 40-60 mg. It's my opinion that it has more legitimate use potential than any prescribed amphetamine due to its simplicity of effects.
I've used all the classic amphetamines and all the other popular stims, though I haven't used any other halogenated amphetamines. 2-FA, in my opinion, is probably the simplest, most focused of any of them, caffeine included, with the fewest side effects and after-effects. It's been speculated that 2-FA has very little serotonergic activity, and this is supported by the lack of increased feelings of empathy, lack of pupil dilation, lack of sexual side effects, and lack of feelings of depletion after use ends. The only unpleasant side effect I've experienced is, inevitably, jaw tension and bowel stimulation which, per the intensity of the dose, is less pronounced than that of any classic or psychedelic phenethylamine, and virtually unnoticeable during a small productivity dose.
While 2-FA may not be as recreational in a traditional sense, I find compulsory redosing very tempting (more so than with methamphetamine) due to the lack of cons and, for the most part, redosing 24 hours later is just as effective as redosing 4-6 hours in. I don't find the after-effects during the descent to baseline any worse after a single dose than after 30 hours of dosing. In fact, I don't find the primary effects of considerably higher doses to be much more potent than those of reasonable recreational doses (which I would consider 40-60 mg every 4-5 hours).
I've had two very different 30-hour binges with 2-FA dosage-wise that were nonetheless very similar experiences in the end. The first time, I began with 80 mg intramuscularly which resulted in a surprisingly decent rush. I followed up a couple hours later with 80 mg IV, which disappointingly didn't result in a rush, only a continuation. Neither method resulted in uncomfortable burning or site irritation. I redosed, mostly by IM, every two to four hours and went through 1.4 grams after the 30 hours was over. Around the 30 hour mark, my diction and interpretation of words began suffering and I knew I was approaching psychosis... I took some benzos, felt as though I was merely tired after a long day's work (having regained my diction and reasoning), and was able to sleep around 8 hours after the final dose. I felt fine the next day.
During the second 30-hour binge, I dosed orally exclusively. Again the most pleasure came from that first dose of 80-100 mg, but I was compelled to go onward because there simply wasn't any reason not to. All of my redoses were roughly four hours apart. I had the feeling before beginning that I could go on for three days, if I so desired, without losing my mind since I was keeping my doses more reasonable in size and frequency this time. To my surprise, I began to fall apart mentally around the same 30 hour mark after a total of 500 mg, and ended the night in the same fashion as before. The second binge wasn't any less fun than the first, and I used a third as much drug at a lower BA (I'd expect it's roughly 80% bioavailable orally). I seemed to have hit the practical effects ceiling the first time around.
For those seeking euphoria, the most you'll get is in that first dose, regardless of if it's a large oral dose or a large IV dose. My favorite way of beginning is with an IM dose, followed by oral redoses. Drawing out the experience with large doses after the first or smaller ones (60 mg) doesn't really result in different enough outcomes to justify the increased usage. I'd suggest waiting 4 hours between redoses as well. Don't even bother snorting it. I've snorted everything foul at least once, and while 2-FA doesn't hurt the worst (though worse than any classic amphetamine), it's among the most vile sensations I've experienced as it crept across my membranes. It's no more effective than dosing orally and only marginally faster-acting.
Everyone I know who has used 2-FA still glows when describing it. It's very useful for productivity due to its single-minded focus without any bells and whistles, but is enjoyable enough that repeat recreational dosing is a tempting and viable route.
Share some of your findings on this less popular halogenated amphetamine.
Edit: Ahh, a mod has unarchived the first 2-FA Mega Thread, rendering this one unnecessary
I'll move my impressions to it.
2-FA is a halogenated amphetamine most often compared to 4-FA with less euphoria. I think this has prevented it from being as popular, despite being more useful in the opinion of the people I know who have used both. It seems to be a bit more potent by weight, with a productive 5-6 hour dose of 20 mg oral and a recreational threshold around 40-60 mg. It's my opinion that it has more legitimate use potential than any prescribed amphetamine due to its simplicity of effects.
I've used all the classic amphetamines and all the other popular stims, though I haven't used any other halogenated amphetamines. 2-FA, in my opinion, is probably the simplest, most focused of any of them, caffeine included, with the fewest side effects and after-effects. It's been speculated that 2-FA has very little serotonergic activity, and this is supported by the lack of increased feelings of empathy, lack of pupil dilation, lack of sexual side effects, and lack of feelings of depletion after use ends. The only unpleasant side effect I've experienced is, inevitably, jaw tension and bowel stimulation which, per the intensity of the dose, is less pronounced than that of any classic or psychedelic phenethylamine, and virtually unnoticeable during a small productivity dose.
While 2-FA may not be as recreational in a traditional sense, I find compulsory redosing very tempting (more so than with methamphetamine) due to the lack of cons and, for the most part, redosing 24 hours later is just as effective as redosing 4-6 hours in. I don't find the after-effects during the descent to baseline any worse after a single dose than after 30 hours of dosing. In fact, I don't find the primary effects of considerably higher doses to be much more potent than those of reasonable recreational doses (which I would consider 40-60 mg every 4-5 hours).
I've had two very different 30-hour binges with 2-FA dosage-wise that were nonetheless very similar experiences in the end. The first time, I began with 80 mg intramuscularly which resulted in a surprisingly decent rush. I followed up a couple hours later with 80 mg IV, which disappointingly didn't result in a rush, only a continuation. Neither method resulted in uncomfortable burning or site irritation. I redosed, mostly by IM, every two to four hours and went through 1.4 grams after the 30 hours was over. Around the 30 hour mark, my diction and interpretation of words began suffering and I knew I was approaching psychosis... I took some benzos, felt as though I was merely tired after a long day's work (having regained my diction and reasoning), and was able to sleep around 8 hours after the final dose. I felt fine the next day.
During the second 30-hour binge, I dosed orally exclusively. Again the most pleasure came from that first dose of 80-100 mg, but I was compelled to go onward because there simply wasn't any reason not to. All of my redoses were roughly four hours apart. I had the feeling before beginning that I could go on for three days, if I so desired, without losing my mind since I was keeping my doses more reasonable in size and frequency this time. To my surprise, I began to fall apart mentally around the same 30 hour mark after a total of 500 mg, and ended the night in the same fashion as before. The second binge wasn't any less fun than the first, and I used a third as much drug at a lower BA (I'd expect it's roughly 80% bioavailable orally). I seemed to have hit the practical effects ceiling the first time around.
For those seeking euphoria, the most you'll get is in that first dose, regardless of if it's a large oral dose or a large IV dose. My favorite way of beginning is with an IM dose, followed by oral redoses. Drawing out the experience with large doses after the first or smaller ones (60 mg) doesn't really result in different enough outcomes to justify the increased usage. I'd suggest waiting 4 hours between redoses as well. Don't even bother snorting it. I've snorted everything foul at least once, and while 2-FA doesn't hurt the worst (though worse than any classic amphetamine), it's among the most vile sensations I've experienced as it crept across my membranes. It's no more effective than dosing orally and only marginally faster-acting.
Everyone I know who has used 2-FA still glows when describing it. It's very useful for productivity due to its single-minded focus without any bells and whistles, but is enjoyable enough that repeat recreational dosing is a tempting and viable route.
Share some of your findings on this less popular halogenated amphetamine.
Edit: Ahh, a mod has unarchived the first 2-FA Mega Thread, rendering this one unnecessary
I'll move my impressions to it.
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