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Terence McKenna

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Hi... First off sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

Just wondering what your favorite McKenna books are as I'm making my way through them and wondering which to get next.

Thanks.
 
Food of the Gods for sure :)

In all honesty though it's the only one of his books I've read completely yet, the others I've read parts of/haven't been able to find.
 
I'm currently reading Food of the Gods. I'm just starting on his works and I listen to some of his lectures.
 
I like listening to some of his lectures, he has an intriguing creativity about him, but that's about all I take his philosophy as- art with no real basis in reality.

Next time I have a high dose tryptamine I may be more suggestive and it would be fun to listen to a lecture and actually temporarily believe that stuff, if possible. Might have to take a shitload for that to happen. No offense to him, I do respect the man for sure.

Food of the Gods PDF (legal)
Added link, its cool the book you guys mention is free.

I remember when very young, maybe 11, 12... I was going through my grandpap's magazines, there was one sciencey type magazine, maybe someone can help me out with the name... but it contained stuff about mckenna and how people may have evolved due to psychedelic drugs/plants, I think it mentioned mushrooms particularly. i do believe reading this was a primer for me getting over the "drugs are bad don't do them" and helped me get over my fading relationship with a friend who just started smoking weed (I stopped being his friend cause he was "doing drugs")
 
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but it contained stuff about mckenna and how people may have evolved due to psychedelic drugs/plants, I think it mentioned mushrooms particularly.
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It's called The Stoned Ape Hypothesis.

I wouldn't buy into it much.
 
~_Hiss_~ said:
I remember when very young, maybe 11, 12... I was going through my grandpap's magazines, there was one sciencey type magazine, maybe someone can help me out with the name... but it contained stuff about mckenna and how people may have evolved due to psychedelic drugs/plants, I think it mentioned mushrooms particularly. i do believe reading this was a primer for me getting over the "drugs are bad don't do them" and helped me get over my fading relationship with a friend who just started smoking weed (I stopped being his friend cause he was "doing drugs")
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If it was the Omni DMT issue, it was one of my primers too! Except I was 19.

http://deoxy.org/t_omni.htm
 
@ feste: Oh hell no, like I said I think of his philosophy as creative art/ fairly tales... even at the time I was skeptical, but more suggestive, and interested in it.

I've studied evolution extensively (I had to), and (it is extremely, extremely unlikely) mushrooms did anything to us as a species. Maybe some remote tribes and culture but not DNA.

This was a magazine... some short name...

OMNI THANK YOU knockando !!!!!!!!!!

'93, I was 9 at the time but since I read it in the basement in an old stack of magazines it was probably about 2 years later.
 
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I think McKenna himself said somewhere that his purpose in writing Food of the Gods wasn't to advance a serious arguement but to create a kind of intellectual Trojan Horse that would get people, especially intellectual establishment types, to reconsider psychedelics in a new light and hopefully try them for themselves.

His theories on Catal Huyuk and mushrooms were pretty interesting, and not TOO far fetched. If he's correct about that, shroom influence on later human culture could be more widespread than we think.
 
true hallucinations is my favorite, but a lot of people who dislike Mckenna for being to fanciful or whatever, will really dislike this book
 
McKenna is a loon but he is a loveable loon in my book, one of the best that we have :)

People like him (and David Icke lol) I try not so much to take at their word but to take them for the message that is underlying which ultimately I think is a positive one
 
Seriously? David Icke? Isn't that the evil reptile conspiracy guy? You must have a pretty low opinion of McKenna to be making that comparison.
 
Not at all actually.

But mcKenna does say some out there, loony stuff, but the message is a good one. Same goes with David Icke, reptillians aside.

Someone like Daniel Pinchbeck, however, is just a tool. :p
 
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McKenna is a loon but he is a loveable loon in my book, one of the best that we have :)

People like him (and David Icke lol) I try not so much to take at their word but to take them for the message that is underlying which ultimately I think is a positive one
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So what do you see as McKenna's underlying "positive message"?

(I know nothing about Icke, but since some said he's severely whacko, what's his underlying positive message as well?)
 
I like McKenna's non-dogmatism, his socio-political ideas about the dominator culture, his overall approach to the psychedelic experience suits me a bit more than Leary's et al.

Icke is severly whacko at least as far as the reptilians go but his ideas about malevolent interests and structures taking over society and the need to liberate one's mind from the same are spot on.
 
McKenna stated that our consciousness arose from using of psilocybin mushrooms. If you read his arguments and then think about it, it makes perfect logical sense.

Random ape walking around grasslands, or trying to hunt cows, then sees mushrooms on the ground in cow poop, picks it up and eats. If you've done mushrooms you can see how a mushroom experience could give rise to consciousness in a dumb ape, through prolonged usage. He has a lot of cultural proof too in his book, you guys should give it a read before dismissing it.
 
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McKenna stated that our consciousness arose from using of psilocybin mushrooms. If you read his arguments and then think about it, it makes perfect logical sense.

Random ape walking around grasslands, or trying to hunt cows, then sees mushrooms on the ground in cow poop, picks it up and eats. If you've done mushrooms you can see how a mushroom experience could give rise to consciousness in a dumb ape, through prolonged usage. He has a lot of cultural proof too in his book, you guys should give it a read before dismissing it.
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Has anyone ever studied the effects of psychedelics on the great apes, in a non-toxic experiment (as in, not trying to prove their toxicity/evilness for NIDA)? Cuz I think itd be great to see what a bunch of bonnobos would start doing if we gave them shrooms every month and monitored them over many years. Such a study would be pretty much impossible to fund, unless you were like a druggie Bruce Wayne with time on your hands
 
Highly doubt it, governments too scared of psychedelics to allow tests such as these. But it would most likely be to no avail as I'm pretty sure it takes a lot more than one humans lifetime for consciousness to arise.
 
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