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Telling apart God from an Alien?
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This is the belief of the believer.
PookiePioneer
Greenlighter
Devils are aliens o.o
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." arthur c. clarke
and water into wine didn't actually happen - surely it's a metaphor?
alasdair
and water into wine didn't actually happen - surely it's a metaphor?
alasdair
Pariahprose
Bluelighter
For my reply I am going to guess your refering to the Christian God since that is the only I know of that normally uses a capital G. With the Christian God as my own personal referance point, I would 1. In what sense are you claiming to be God, as in simply the creator of my species,or as the creator of all species and the Heavens and Earth? 2. Tell the alien that anything I ask it with my mouth is irrelavent bc even the Devil knows the word of God, can perform miracles, and perform prophecy,though false and misleading in its nature. 3. Tell it to be God it sure is dumb to come down because the chronology of the Bible would make him the anti-christ,not God and also show us what to possibly expect incase it is just a decoy for another being to come claim to be God but not really be Him. But I personally dont think Aliens are perfect,so he would slip up somehow eventually,lol. 4. Pray and listening for God to speak to my heart and soul,not my mind because the true creator of man speaks without speaking...His words touch both heart and soul and does not spit fire and poison with wreckless abandon with His tongue nor does any utterance come forth from out of His mouth.
5. Bend over,tuck my head between my legs and kiss my ass good bye.An alien that isn't God wouldnt allow someone that has such an opposite and questioning opinion to remain alive. So either way I would simply speak my mind to it and intentionally try to make it unjustly angry so that if it shoots me, I go to Heaven and get to see God...and well,if it does turn out to be God,cool beans ^.^
Pariahprose
5. Bend over,tuck my head between my legs and kiss my ass good bye.An alien that isn't God wouldnt allow someone that has such an opposite and questioning opinion to remain alive. So either way I would simply speak my mind to it and intentionally try to make it unjustly angry so that if it shoots me, I go to Heaven and get to see God...and well,if it does turn out to be God,cool beans ^.^
Pariahprose
If the alien had proof that in some manipulation/traveling of time it had created time/space/matter/energy,(and/or consciousness) then it'd be "god"
Or if said alien was the one that programmed "the matrix" that would work for me too
Or if said alien was the one that programmed "the matrix" that would work for me too
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Foreigner
Bluelighter
God is everything. It's the Universe. It's you, me, and everything in between. Someone coming and claiming to be God is still just part of God. They're just another part of the illusion, just another that thinks it is real and calls itself God.
If an alien comes and claims they are God, then obviously they have not transcended ego and I would probably be very scrupulous of what they have to say. I would admit they are powerful though.
There's a quote from popular Buddhism that says, "If you see the Buddha on the path, you should kill him." What it means philosophically is that our true nature of Divinity does not reside outside of us, it is in us. It is our God nature. Therefore, someone claiming to be God is clearly a trickster, no matter how powerful they may seem.
If an alien comes and claims they are God, then obviously they have not transcended ego and I would probably be very scrupulous of what they have to say. I would admit they are powerful though.
There's a quote from popular Buddhism that says, "If you see the Buddha on the path, you should kill him." What it means philosophically is that our true nature of Divinity does not reside outside of us, it is in us. It is our God nature. Therefore, someone claiming to be God is clearly a trickster, no matter how powerful they may seem.
Hmm, I think this question is kind of pointless in the first place, as what I understand as the true God is "The first emanation" while this world is "The last emanation" - or dimension (not sure how many are between). So "God" can't actually come down or into our world and only act in this world through physical beings. I believe that is the point of our existance in the first place. Or at least those of us who try to do God's will.
The problem with the world is that there are too many who oppose God's will or are indifferent to it (leading to its imperfection). I believe in the paradox that this is real at the same time as the existence of oneness or illusion of opposites. Or, we also have a choice of what we want to create in the illusion, and this also matters.
I don't really believe it can be rationalised away by saying "It is all one so it is all good". On one level, yes, but a very philosophical, abstract level. Looking at the world as it is presently obviously all is not good.
Spiritual truth is complex and a huge puzzle, and I think we all have different roles, or are supposed to shed light on different parts of it. And I feel my work is more along the lines of making people more able to differentiate between positive and negative and seeing the advantage of choosing the negative. While someone else's role might be to assure us it's all alright until we get to that point.
Anyway, if you see "God" as the first cause or energy source of Creation, if "He" were to "step down from his throne" the whole of Creation would fall apart. So the idea of him appearing as an alien is so irrational it's quite amusing - God's consciousness fills the whole Universe and could never be contained in one physical body. We can't compare our little baby-consciousnesses to God, that would be like comparing ourselves with the consciousness of an insect, or even worse than that. It's a completely different thing.
The problem with the world is that there are too many who oppose God's will or are indifferent to it (leading to its imperfection). I believe in the paradox that this is real at the same time as the existence of oneness or illusion of opposites. Or, we also have a choice of what we want to create in the illusion, and this also matters.
I don't really believe it can be rationalised away by saying "It is all one so it is all good". On one level, yes, but a very philosophical, abstract level. Looking at the world as it is presently obviously all is not good.
Spiritual truth is complex and a huge puzzle, and I think we all have different roles, or are supposed to shed light on different parts of it. And I feel my work is more along the lines of making people more able to differentiate between positive and negative and seeing the advantage of choosing the negative. While someone else's role might be to assure us it's all alright until we get to that point.
Anyway, if you see "God" as the first cause or energy source of Creation, if "He" were to "step down from his throne" the whole of Creation would fall apart. So the idea of him appearing as an alien is so irrational it's quite amusing - God's consciousness fills the whole Universe and could never be contained in one physical body. We can't compare our little baby-consciousnesses to God, that would be like comparing ourselves with the consciousness of an insect, or even worse than that. It's a completely different thing.
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If you're asking if there'd be any reliable way to tell an encounter with an extraterrestrial or extradimensional sentient being from one with a supernatural being, I'd say no. These for all intents in purposes constitute one category of experience. All three involve an intrusion into our own sentient experiences by a sentient force far more powerful than us and beyond our current ability to comprehend.
If you're talking about the prime mover, the ultimate ground of all being, well now that's forever unknown and unknowable to human beings, in my humble opinion.
If you're talking about the prime mover, the ultimate ground of all being, well now that's forever unknown and unknowable to human beings, in my humble opinion.