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(Synthetic, Non-JWH) Inexperienced - Darkness; Life Changing Agony

Never again

Greenlighter
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Jun 8, 2011
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Hello everyone let me start out by saying this is my first post on this site, and I’m sorry if this report is a little hard to follow. I’m glad I found this site because recently I have had the most disturbing trip/experience of my life. I’ve been dying to share this with someone but I don’t really know anyone familiar with psychoactive drugs or tripping.
This morning I had the feeling that I was having a very bad dream and was about to wake up from fright. But it soon became apparent to me that I wasn’t dreaming. I was actually in the hospital with tubes in my arm and a beeping heart machine hooked up, and those actually were my parents sitting next to my bed crying.
It all came rushing back to me. The day before I was having an average lazy day. I got a call from the restaurant that I wait at telling me I didn’t need to come in, and I was perfectly content to just sit around all day and watch tv. surprisingly enough I was having a great time, my life had been looking up recently and I was always feeling remarkably happy. Life was a beach and I was playing in the sand.
Around 11:30 pm I had just finished watching the game three of the Boston Vancouver stanley cup series, when my friend text me wondering how late one of the local gas stations was open. I knew right away it was because he wanted to buy some K2 (fake weed). I wasn’t particularly excited about smoking some chemical sprayed potpourri that got cooked up by some hillbilly with a associates degree in chemical science. but I figured people do it all the time and its legal so whatever.
My friend had done the specific blend we were about to try before and he said it was crazy scary and trippy. I didn’t really pay this much attention as this friend had a habit of spinning fantastic stories about his “trippy experiences”. He picked me up around midnight and we bought 3 grams of it for 26$. it was called “The Darkness” and had a rather scary picture of a clown or something on the front. We went to one his friends houses who I didn’t know and decided to smoke it there.
I didn’t even think that this unfamiliar setting would be any problem because I had no Idea the strength of this stuff. I had a booklet of papers in my pocket and a lighter so I rolled a jay. We noticed that it was the last paper we had so I rolled the biggest joint I could (at least 1.5g) we went out back and smoked it.
After about half the joint I started to feel very relaxed. I’ve smoked weed before and was at a very comfortable stoney high by the time we tossed the roach and headed inside I was VERY high.
This is about where things started to turn bad, I’ve never done any drugs besides weed and I’ve never experienced anything close to a trip where I hallucinate. I was expecting to go inside and chill to some music until I fell asleep.
When I got inside I realized that the the lights were oppressively reddish orange and almost felt hot. I thought it was kinda cool so I grabbed a bottle of gatorade and sat down in front of the TV. I was starting to feel weird, not good at all I noticed I had opened the bottle of gatorade and just stared at it for about 15 minutes. I tried to take a drink but I couldn’t.
This is when I noticed something was definitely not right I was tripping and I didn’t like it at all. I wanted it to stop and tried to wrestle myself back into reality witch was probably the worst thing I could do. I suddenly flashed back to when I was a little kid at the county fair and I got pressured by my friends to ride a scary ride I didn’t want to but after the bar locked down there was no way to stop it and it was just getting started.
I remember dropping the bottle of gatorade violently spilling it everywhere people started yelling but this is about the last contact I have with reality that night. I looked at my friend and saw his face twisted and distorted like a fractal and I remember rocking back and forth repeating “I don’t like this, I don’t like this, I don’t like this”
I tried to calm myself down remembering that its just a high non of this is real and it can’t hurt me. For a few precious minutes it worked and I felt peaceful overcome with serenity and joy. But then I suddenly remembered that this wasn’t weed I was high on. it was some crazy chemical cooked up by an evil corporation. and suddenly I was flung into hell.
Robots from the evil corporation started raining from the sky with horrible red eyes and lasers. The lights were so bright and hot that basement morphed into a desert. and the plywood walls became lava flows the more I tried to fight back to reality the worse it got I became aware for a second that I was on the ground and people were standing over me trying to calm me but reality quickly deteriorated into fractals and nothingness

and then I let go.

I felt my body thrash violently as I left it. the fractals became more intense than anything I’ve ever seen or felt. the fractals touched every sense I had I could see taste feel smell and hear them all at once as if I only had one sense. the intensity of them grew exponentially until they became like static and then they started to hurt. they hurt in a way I’ve never felt pain before it was like I wasn’t just feeling the pain through my body because I didn’t even have a body to feel at this point I just was in pain. agony. unbearable horrible pain that I couldn’t fight or change there was nothing I could do. I became aware that the pain was getting worse and with no reference for it every second I felt was the worst pain I had ever felt. I began to experience infinite pain that would never stop I thought I was a being whose only purpose in the universe was to feel this pain infinitely forever. I had no clue who I was or anything about real life. for all I knew I had existed forever feeling this agony and pain and I was stuck like this forever.
I touched back with reality for a moment to see something spilled on the floor and broken glass everywhere I was there long enough to say “911... call 911”. I snapped right back into that horrible inescapable pain. At this point I was completely convinced that I was either dying or already dead and experiencing the after life. I thought that I was being punished for everything I did wrong in life. every once and a while I would come to long enough to see and hear people yelling and talking on the phone. the last thing I remember before waking up in the hospital was talking to my mom on the phone telling her to pull the plug if I never came out of this trip.
It was the worst experience of my life hands down I felt a feeling of total inescapable despair and suffering that I can’t even describe I’m writing this at 2:00 am the next day because I’m terrified to sleep. I’ve been listening to my jack johnson collection just to keep me calm. I don’t know if I will ever see anything the same way again. I will never touch any kind of psychoactive drug again, not even coffee.
 
Whoahhhhhhhhhhh....

Sounds like you had a really really bad one...
One of the worst reports ive read on here (Not that you wrote it wrong, i mean terryfing wise)

why didnt you just smoke normal weed though? why did you go for the legal crap if you can obv get real deal?
 
For the sake of Harm reduction, please do your research before doing any of these blends. They are not marijuana and they should not be smoked as such. Many are active at the "pinch" level, so you have to start off low. Also, give yourself some time to feel the effects.
 
Whoahhhhhhhhhhh....

Sounds like you had a really really bad one...
One of the worst reports ive read on here (Not that you wrote it wrong, i mean terryfing wise)

why didnt you just smoke normal weed though? why did you go for the legal crap if you can obv get real deal?

The friend I was with was paranoid about smoking bud because he had been arrested before. I didn't really care because I had smoked some k2 (Cannabicyclohexanol) last summer with him and figured this would be about the same. All that did was give me kaleidoscope vision for 20 or 30 minutes. This stuff was much more potent. Now that I do more research I'm pretty sure It was sprayed with HU-210, a cannabinoid with almost 1000 times the binding affinity of THC.

My advice would be to stay away from synthetics they're bad news. To quote Professor John W. Huffman the guy who discovered this stuff "People who use it are idiots. You don't know what its going to do to you"
 
and on the medical side of things I'm college cross country runner with a resting heart rate in the low to mid 50's. when the ambulance came I was rolling on the ground screaming. My HR was 188 and my BP180 over 120 so basically I was not far from stroking or having a heart attack. They kept me in the hospital overnight and told me I'm lucky to be alive, and even luckier to still have full use of my brain/body.
 
Daaaamnn man.

Yea I dont smoke weed alot, only on occasion. I tried this stuff twice this year just to get high so i could find another job (BTW I also wait tables and I FUCKING hate it but its good and easy money.). Anyways I bought some of this shit for 15 dollars at a random store, I forgot the name of it, but I rolled up a J and smoked some. Its an unnatural high. If you smoked weed before you can tell the difference, its not the same as the stuff on the street but it gets you VERY VERY HIGH in mediocre doses. Also I've experienced headaches, nausea, and discomfort with the most recent time i tried it, Never again. What I dont understand is how the hell is this shit legal and the regular shit isnt, natural grown weed should be legalized and regulated by the government. Yea they will probably charge alot of money for it, but its a good way to stimulate the economy. Maybe decrease our ever increasing debt in the US.
 
Dude I know actually what you mean I went through the same thing you did. Fucking worst time of my life and now I have issues with my anxiety and depression from it. Right now I am trying to get my life back on track I'm working and setting goals for myself, but I feel like I am a different person and not for the better.

Here is my post from the "K2 ruined my life"

“Hello I want to share my story of my experience with fake marijuana. I am in my mid 20′s and I have smoked weed 8 times in my entire life. Sometimes I would get anxious and other times just relaxed. I have never done any other drug nor do I care to. I mainly just consume alcohol on the weekends with friends and haven’t smoked weed in months. I was with my friend on the weekend and he had went to a local smoke and picked up a small packet of this stuff called “Cloud Ten” I didn’t get a chance the read the label on the back about the not for human consumption, but I sure wish I did. Later that night I was drinking at his place and was getting pretty intoxicated we went outside and he started to smoke the Cloud Ten. He offered me some and being drunk and not making wise decision I tried it. I was thinking it was a safe substance since it was legal something like a tobacco or hookah. I took one puff from it and immediately starting getting lightheaded and sick. At this point I knew something was wrong so I went inside to lie down and sleep it off.
As soon as I lay down I started to get he spins and I have had the spins before from alcohol, but this was 100 times worse. I was grabbing the floor and anything that was solid telling myself that it was all in my head. Eventually the spins stopped, but at this point I started to trip bad and I have never tripped on a drug before. I had felt like I had died and gone to hell or what my brain thought hell would feel like. I started to disconnect from reality and forgot who I was I was starting to lose myself. At this point I was fighting my way back trying to tell myself I was real and fine, that I was a good person and I would wake up from it. After a little bit I was able to open my eyes, but my vision was so messed up it hurt me eyes to look around. At this point my friends were checking on me asking if I was OK, but I couldn’t talk. I remember being very paranoid and thinking this people are not my friends that they almost were not even really there. Also time seemed to slow down and it felt like it was never going to end that I was trapped forever. then was finally able to get up and move around which was hard since my balance was gone. Then I started to vomit anything and everything I could. This went on for about 15 minutes after which I started drinking a lot of water.
I crashed shortly after this and went to bed waking up at 9 am and thinking to myself what had happened last night. I felt fine when I left to go home almost like nothing had happened. When I got home I decided to go on a walk and clear my head, but about 3 miles in I felt like my brain was in a fog and I couldn’t think straight. This scared the living hell out of me so I rushed home and started researching everything about the substance. At this point after finding out about the substance I started worry more because of how new it is and the little amount of research on it in humans. I started to do things to take my mind off it and I would feel better for a bit, but as soon as I left my familiar environment my mind would go into the haze again. The next two weeks were horrible for me I would have constant pain in my head and it felt like there was so much pressure. Also I would wake up in the middle of the night sweating and my heart would be racing. It now has been almost two months since that night and I do feel a lot better, but I’m far from being 100% back. I have never suffered like this from drinking or the little of weed I have. I used to love my life and was always happy I felt like a million bucks until I smoked that fake bullshit. Now everyday seems like a struggle I’m depressed and I also have headaches which I never fucking used to have. I have been exercising on a daily basis, drinking a lot of water and detox my body. I hope to god that is feeling I have and the headaches go away and this whole experience really has opened my eyes.
As for the people saying that they have smoked it and are fine I am really happy for you, but I would stop while your still lucky because even John W. Huffman the person who discovered the chemical has said “It’s like playing Russian roulette. You don’t know what it’s going to do to you.” I wasn’t so lucky and I got the bullet now I would give anything to take that night back and save myself two months of hell that I have been going through.”
 
I'm a 25yo powerlifter

Hey OP, can you believe I have the opposite problem? I get soo relaxed from being high + meditation that I've developed Angina (heart disease) caused by slow heart rate.

Intense highs, I've learned, tend to engulf the tripper. When you focus on the hell, your hallucinative state, hurr derr of course you'll be put there. You even said yourself, you thought happy, serene thoughts, and calmed down.


My advice: If you feel an oncoming panic attack, immediatey tune out all thoughts, surroundings, ssnsory input, everything. Close your eyes, focus on breathing. When you feel relaxed, and open your eyes, you'll feel much closer to sobriety (paranoia induces all the unecessary scary shit)

Don't be afraid of the chemical; just handle your shit bro. That chemical can get you pleasently blasted in a way weed never can, so don't quit on it, just realize what went wrong that other time and don't let the hell engulf you.




...Basically, you got fucking blasted. When this happens, thought process is narrowed so far that you had trouble with what was going on around you. This struck fear, and you tuned in on that fear :(. If you were able to talk, I've been higher than you, and seriosly, you have to clear the mind...


I repeated stuff like many times, sorry I'm high.
 
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Oh oh oh my friend my friend... Try smoking this shit on the regs for 4 months. Buck up cowboy it gets A LOT worse than that you just need to learn to embrace the darkness friend... embrace it before it embraces you...
 
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