Synthetic Mescaline HCL - Advice please.

[masterbucks]

A friend of mine has chatted to someone who allegedley has "synthetic mescaline HCL", it was in a small bag, approximately 1-2 grams and looked like white crystal'ish powder.
During that conversation it was offered and he asked the following questions which he wrote down for me as I said I could ask people in the know online.. you lot, i hope ...

He asked...

is this extracted? or lab made?

are we talking the 12+ hr trip stuff?
and is it of the chemical name 3,4,5-trimethoxy-ß-phenethylamine. in many posts ive read, 'synth mes' has been used to label even some of the 2Cx's

and he got the following response...

This mescaline is synthesized in a lab from 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde and the final product's compound name is 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine, meaning the same compound found in psychedelic cacti like Peyote or San Pedro.


I personally do not know enough about this drug to give him good advice, but my frie i definitely interested in trying it, so is any of this sounding like the right stuff, and of course, does it sound like a typical safe response from the vendor? <snip>*
(The vendor is not a friend, simply someone who is contactable, neither my friend or I know of anyone who has taken this stuff that is being offered)

I hope for some knowledgable advice on the matter so i can inform my friend and keep things as safe as possible.

Thanks for any time taken on this


*No price discussion.
~Never

 

[sekio]

is this extracted? or lab made?

Hard to tell. If the guy says it's made from the benzaldehyde I would be inclined to believe him. It sure sounds like you're talking about lab made mescaline. (but it would be very hard for the lay-man to tell synthetic product from naturally extracted stuff)

Mescaline is indeed 3,4,5 trimethoxy phenethylamine and the salts will generally be white crystalline powders.

Start with s amsll "allergy test" dose to make sure they're not sellign you 2c-x, and then try a 300mg dose and see where that takes you.

 

[Bagseed]

yeah, if it's active at say under 50mg, then it's not mescaline. i'd do an allergy test first (<1mg) and then tritrate up. the price seems cheap though, i'd thought mescaline hcl would be rather expensive. most 2C-x and DOx are more expensive ime (if this already price discussion, please let me know)

tbh, i'd rather make the effort and extract it on my own (and i will do it, hopefully in the near future, because since i'm reading pihkal, it sound even more intriguing), just to be sure about what i'm doing.

 

[justinsayno]

a gram of mescaline for less than the price of 80 fags.....?

very fishy

Excuse the price discussion, thats just far too cheap...i wouldnt touch that powder with a barge pole

 

[Ismene]

Unless it's sockpuppets family selling it then I'd be wary. It would be cheap at 5 times that price.

 

[Recklesslg]

I think you should be careful and titrate upwards, if you choose to pursue this.

 

[freedstar]

Like others have said, make sure you work your way up with the dose <1mg, 5mg, 15mg, 50mg etc. Taking 200mg+ of many chems could turn out to be a nightmare.

Synthetic Mescaline is rare but from a legit source it's not unheard of. Typically when people say they were offered it by some kid at a concert is where it turns out to be something else.

 

[masterbucks]

Hi, thanks for all responses.

 

[bluedolphin]

Sounds legit. Mescaline HCl isn't unheard of. I've only seen it a few times and had it once. 300mg is a bit on the light side for a trip... probably equal to 1 decent hit of acid in terms of visuals but mellower overall. It doesn't really matter if it's actually synthetic or extracted mescaline. I see no reason to believe the supplier is lying in this case, however.

The price sounds reasonable, about the same I've heard it go for.

Then again the guy could just cut a lot of things into a sparkly white powder and call it mescaline. It would be adviseable to allergy test the material and then proceed to 100mg or so to see if you still have the expected reaction (which at 100mg would be mostly a warm and mellow body feeling with a slight sparkle). If all goes well you're a lucky guy, go ahead and bomb 400-500mg

 

[cannibalsnail]

It could be a 2C-x diluted down to mescaline potency.

 

[Ismene]

Nice to see the OP doing his research - he's gone round every drug forum in existence and posted the exact same message on it.

 

[masterbucks]

Nice to see the OP doing his research - he's gone round every drug forum in existence and posted the exact same message on it.

No, it appears that perhaps YOU have been to TWO forums and decided that means 'EVERY DRUG FORUM IN EXISTENCE' as you have seen my post TWICE (you wont find it anywhere else on the internet, as I only posted it twice)

The two forums that I deemed most reliable after reading through multiple forums were the ones I chose to post the question to, that way I hoped to get decent, reliable responses, I did this for my friends safety and to gain knowledge about Mescaline. To me, that seemed like a sensible thing to do. If that seems wrong to others to warrant a comment that has no relevence to the original thread post, then.. well, IDK.

Anyway.. I've also been through quite a few other Forums and websites (Erowid etc etc) and searched for similar topic discussions and also just finding out information for myself about mescaline as I didnt know anything about it really before a few weeks ago.

My situation is particularly specific to one discussion that ONE PERSON had with my friend. Unfortunately I didnt find anyone that has had a similar conversation involving the specifics of the original thread.

Back to the Thread... OK, I really appreciate all the other helpful responses.
Since posting thread, I have been able to contact the person directly and even heard of good reports back, so it looks as though my friend can (to a certain degree) be safe in consuming said mescaline. I will pass on the idea of test samples (1mg > 10 mg etc etc) as an extra precautionary measure. The Advice on titrating upwards has been very helpful.

My hope of the thread post was to see if the response of the conversation my friend had was something that 'sounds' reasonable and seemed like it was from someone who appeared to not just 'talk the talk' so to speak.
I appreciate any time given to help me with this, thank you.

much

 

[Ismene]

I wasn't criticising you bucks - nothing wrong with asking round on various forums.

So was it mescaline or not?

 

[masterbucks]

Hi Ismene, if thats the case, then I apologise. even reading your post back now I still get the feeling of criticism.. Posts, texts etc, so easily taken out of context. Either way, if its not then please forgive my response before.

Atm, Said mescaline is not in the hands of my friend. However, it is likely to be within the next 2 weeks.

If you like, I will report back. Im very curious myself and although its probably out of my depth, it's something I may have a go at.