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Found an interesting article:

June 15, 2009 (Washington, DC) — People who use artificial sweeteners are heavier, more likely to have diabetes, and more likely to be insulin-resistant compared with non-users, according to data presented here during ENDO 2009, the 91st annual meeting of The Endocrine Society.
Results show an inverse association between obesity and diabetes, on one side, and daily total caloric, carbohydrate, and fat intake, on the other side, when comparing artificial sweetener users and control subjects.
First author Kristofer S. Gravenstein, a postbaccalaureate researcher with the Clinical Research Branch at the National Institute of Aging (NIA), National Institutes of Health (NIH), said the association may reflect the increased use of artificial sweeteners by obese and/or diabetic study participants. "This is a cross-section study," Mr. Gravenstein told Medscape Diabetes & Endocrinology, "so there are limitations — we cannot say that artificial sweetener use causes obesity, we can say it is associated with it."
Increased Use vs Increased Glucose Absorption
Artificial sweeteners activate sweet taste receptors in enteroendocrine cells, leading to the release of incretin, which is known to contribute to glucose absorption. Recent epidemiologic studies in Circulation (2008;117:754-761) and Obesity (2008;16:1894-1900) showed an association between diet soda consumption and the development of obesity and metabolic syndrome.
This report tested whether participants in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Aging (BLSA), which began in 1958, differ in anthropometric measures, daily caloric intake, and glucose status, separating them into 3 different groups: artificial sweetener users, artificial sweetener nonusers, or controls.
A total of 1257 participants, with a mean age of 64.8 years (range, 21 - 96 years), had data on self-reported 7-day dietary intake, 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT), and anthropometric measures. The major artificial sweetener consumed was aspartame, preferred by 66% of BLSA participants, followed by saccharin (13 , sucralose (1.0 , and combinations of the three (21 .
"In our study, we were actually able to isolate what type of sweetener was used at a certain point in time, as we used food diaries, and not food questionnaires," Mr. Gravenstein pointed out.
"When we first did this analysis, we found that people ate more fat before 1983, which is the year [of] a big increase in artificial sweetener consumption in the American population — it was actually when aspartame was approved and diet Coke was introduced," he explained.
As a result, the study further analyzed data from a subset of participants, starting in 1983. Compared with 550 people who did not use artificial sweeteners, the 443 people who did were younger, heavier, and had a higher body mass index (BMI), yet they did not consume more calories from people who did not use artificial sweeteners. Fat, carbohydrate, protein, and total caloric intake were not different between the 2 groups (users vs nonusers).
Furthermore, Mr. Gravenstein noted that people who used artificial sweeteners "were less likely to have a normal OGTT, or they were less likely to be diagnosed as having a normal glucose homeostasis."
In terms of glucose status, the impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), and/or impaired fasting glucose (IFG), the data show that artificial sweetener users "were not different than the pre-diabetics, ie, they had the same prevalence of pre-diabetes," he said, adding that "in our population, people who used artificial sweeteners were twice as likely to have diabetes, 8.8% compared to 4.4% for controls."
Analysing the data further, the investigators focused on a subpopulation, in which fasting insulin values were available from 374 nonusers and 311 artificial sweetener users. The users had a higher fasting glucose levels, higher fasting insulin levels, and a higher measure of insulin resistance, as measured by the homeostasis model assessment, but glycosylated haemoglobin A1C levels were similar between the 2 groups.
Alternative Hypothesis and Clinicians' Role
The researchers suggest an alternative hypothesis, that artificial sweeteners modulate the metabolic rate through enteroendocrine cells, therefore contributing to the development of diabetes and/or obesity. However, this hypothesis needs further testing in longitudinal analysis and intervention studies, said the investigators.

"Also, it could be that artificial sweeteners are causing diabetes, or it could be that there is a higher use of them because a lot of physicians actually recommend people to use artificial sweeteners to prevent diabetes...." Mr. Gravenstein said. The researchers are planning to address this question with a prospective analysis.
"This is a very interesting study," Rachel C. Edelen, MD, a pediatric endocrinology practitioner at the Aspen Centre in Rapid City, South Dakota, told Medscape Diabetes & Endocrinology in an interview. "I diet screen all my patients, and they are not drinking enough milk. Usually, they replace the milk with something else, sweetened tea, Gatorade, etc, not just water. With my type 1 diabetics, the information they were getting from the hospital was to drink diet pop. But who even goes into the hospital and drinks pop?" she wondered.

Here's another one for you bar flys that like your diet coke with your booze:
Artificial sweeteners, caffeine, and alcohol intoxication in bar patrons.
Rossheim ME, Thombs DL.
Source
Department of Behavioral Science and Community Health, College of Public Health and Health Professions, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida, USA.
Abstract BACKGROUND:
Previous laboratory research on alcohol absorption has found that substitution of artificially sweetened alcohol mixers for sucrose-based mixers has a marked effect on the rate of gastric emptying, resulting in elevated blood alcohol concentrations. Studies conducted in natural drinking settings, such as bars, have indicated that caffeine ingestion while drinking is associated with higher levels of intoxication. To our knowledge, research has not examined the effects of alcohol mixers that contain both an artificial sweetener and caffeine, that is, diet cola. Therefore, we assessed the event-specific association between diet cola consumption and alcohol intoxication in bar patrons. We sought to determine whether putative increases in blood alcohol, produced by accelerated gastric emptying following diet cola consumption, as identified in the laboratory, also appear in a natural setting associated with impaired driving.
METHODS:
We conducted a secondary analysis of data from 2 night time field studies that collected anonymous information from 413 randomly selected bar patrons in 2008 and 2010. Data sets were merged and recoded to distinguish between energy drink, regular cola, diet cola, and non caffeinated alcohol mixers.
RESULTS:
Caffeinated alcohol mixers were consumed by 33.9% of the patrons. Cola-caffeinated mixed drinks were much more popular than those mixed with energy drinks. A large majority of regular cola-caffeinated mixed drink consumers were men (75 , whereas diet cola-caffeinated mixed drink consumers were more likely to be women (57 . After adjusting for the number of drinks consumed and other potential confounders, number of diet cola mixed drinks had a significant association with patron intoxication (β = 0.233, p < 0.0001). Number of drinks mixed with regular (sucrose-sweetened) cola and energy drinks did not have significant associations with intoxication (p > 0.05).
CONCLUSIONS:
Caffeine's effect on intoxication may be most pronounced when mixers are artificially sweetened, that is, lack sucrose which slows the rate of gastric emptying of alcohol. Risks associated with on-premise drinking may be reduced by greater attention given to types of mixers, particularly diet colas.
 
more reasons for me to avoid artificial sweeteners. Crikey; aspartame in particular triggers migraine headaches for me. I wonder if there is a causal link rather then just an association? And just how much of the association is a direct result of bad information given out by Drs and educators that have well frankly piss poor understanding of how the human body works, or have decided to stop keeping up with continuing research. I mean specifically in the US obesity, and diabetes both type I&II both in adults and juveniles is endemic. Largely due to poor nutritional education, and the high fat, sugar contents in our daily food.
The link with increased intoxication is interesting. Good find mate.
 
Did not read the whole thing, but I wanna say that even if the people who use aspartame are usually heavier, does NOT prove that it's the aspartame that causes it. Perhaps fat people use aspartame because they know they're fat.
Black people are more likely to commit crime than white people. But it's not the color of their skin that causes criminal behavior. You get what I mean ?
 
Its believed that artificial sweetners dont feed the body's desire for a carb so in turn the drinker overcompensates with junk. Could be possible that diet soda caused the same metabolic action as the real soda without the real sugar affecting a feedback loop per se so the drinker drinks more leading to the diabetes and obesity issue. I knew this chick who would enter the gas station I worked at and fill her 100 oz mug with diet mt dew 2-3 times a day. ..
 
I've been against using aspartame and msg in food and drink for years, though any time I mention this to anybody or question their use of diet drinks/sports drinks (which are also heavy in aspartame) I get either looked at funny or told to shut up...
 
I've been against using aspartame and msg in food and drink for years, though any time I mention this to anybody or question their use of diet drinks/sports drinks (which are also heavy in aspartame) I get either looked at funny or told to shut up...

Shut up...!!!
 
Association alone means nothing, but the article starts this, then goes into possible reasons for a positive correlation as well.

I just don't know, but I do know that I Like my stevia! It's still probably better than sugar.
 
Can't remember where I read it (probably some useless mainstream news website), but according to the source even though there aren't any carbohydrates in artificial sweeteners, simply the fact you're ingesting something sweet triggers insulin secretion, in turn causing your body to store any amounts of glucose already in circulation. Or something like that.

Make sense? Whether or not it's scientifically accurate, this logic seems right to me...though I've also read somewhere that just THINKING about carbs will cause a pre-emptive insulin spike. This ties in with the above, though I question this one's legitimacy even more.
 
Yup. They say artificial sweeteners despite not being sugar, causes insulin secretion due to the tongue sensing sweetness, the taste registering in the brain, and then the brain sending messages to the pancreas to secrete insulin.

That diet coke with a super-size number four order on the McDonald's menu is not doing a person any good lol.
 
^^so if you butt chug a diet soda to bypass the tongue one would be fine?? :P
 
Yup. They say artificial sweeteners despite not being sugar, causes insulin secretion due to the tongue sensing sweetness, the taste registering in the brain, and then the brain sending messages to the pancreas to secrete insulin.

That diet coke with a super-size number four order on the McDonald's menu is not doing a person any good lol.

Hold on.
So If artificial sweeteners spike our insulin, why aren't we drinking them?

I mean, it's a cheap insulin spike, without calories to be stored as fat.
 
Hold on.
So If artificial sweeteners spike our insulin, why aren't we drinking them?

I mean, it's a cheap insulin spike, without calories to be stored as fat.

Here's something I posted on another forum, its mainly about BCAA but does cover insulin spiking post-workout:

I would recommend taking BCAAs just prior to workout or during the workout itself because they are fast acting. But anytime around your workout is going to be beneficial. They augment the muscle protein synthesis induced by resistance training.

As for insulin spiking, firstly muscle protein breakdown is only very slightly elevated post workout, it actually increases much more for several hours after training. Therefore it's not so much what you consume immediately following your workout but in the following hours/day, that's to say, if you are eating properly for the rest of the day, then protein breakdown shouldn't be an issue. Furthermore, net protein accretion is what we are concerned with, that's protein synthesis minus protein breakdown. Its been found that a mixed protein/carbohydrate meal helps net protein balance more via an elevation in protein synthesis than a reduction in protein breakdown and that this happens regardless of insulin concentration (remember insulin is more anti-catabolic than anabolic).

Now if you are training fasted, it may be a different story because insulin signalling will be reduced prior to training. however GH will also be elevated so who knows, this may offset the lack of insulin?

In the grand scheme of things, all this tinkering with peri-workout nutrition probably isn't going to make or break you. Do what you can and try to down some BCAAs before training but if you don't it's no biggie. I suspect it isn't going to have much of an effect on body composition at the end of the day anyway.
 
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