Bupe Suboxone Detox - What Should I Expect From Here?

[Cane2theLeft]

You'll probably need to take more of the loperamide (imodium) than it recommends, and if you go even higher, it'll relieve more than just the GI symptoms. I found about 20mg to relieve 80% of the withdrawals for me from ~150mg oral morphine per day. People have varying results.

 

[SkagKush]

id suggest going to .5mg first....

then go to .25mg....

but jumping straight down still may work for u

 

[*=Regulator=*]

I had about a .25 or so dose this afternoon and then went to the dr with my mum today (I was cool with her coming) and ended up deciding to step off now.

I've now got plenty of Clonodine, Valium, Immodium, weed and alcohol (although the weed and alcohol actually increase my anxiety if I'm not on Sub so I'm going to try to avoid taking either if at all possible).

The doc reckons I've got about 48-72 hours of serious withdrawal ahead of me. He thinks the best case scenario is that I'll be over the worst of it by Monday but I think Wednesday's probably more likely.

This is going to be soooooooo awesome.....

 

[logie]

I can't believe he wouldn't prescribe a single freaking pill to let you step down either further.. But I guess the inevitable is just that.

 

[*=Regulator=*]

I didn't push to get the extra pill. If I'd said "I really think I need this" he would have let me have it. He was pretty convinced I was already in withdrawal (I am) and didn't see that another week of pain on 0.25 was really worth bothering with.

Now, if he's right that my WD will be mostly over by the start of next week. I'm with him. I can handle a few days pain. But if jumping off now means a week of WD compared to a few days if I'd tapered lower, I'll be pretty pissed and might try to go back to 0.25 and then try again.

BTW - the lope, clon, Val and a bit of weed have made things WAY better. As I type this I'm only feeling mild anxiety. Oh yeah - havent had a drink today, which is the first day in about a year.

Quick q: does the clonodine have any addictive properties and can taking too much be dangerous. It's really helped with the shakes, anxiety and in sedating me enough to sleep. If it's safe I'd like take more than the recommended dose. Is this safe?

Thanks. Will give an update tomorrow. Sorry for spelling - posting from iPhone

 

[*=Regulator=*]

Just got up and not feeling sick but have a very 'heavy' head, presumably from all the meds.

Can anyone help with my question about the clonodine above? Is it habit forming and is it safe to take more than prescribed as it's working well in calming my nerves?

Thanks - back to bed to watch shitty TV

 

[CitioKid]

Withdrawal from suboxone is never a weekend thing. No matter how intense or slight the withdrawals are, the worst of it will last about five to six days, and they will be perceptible for about two weeks. That is, of course, if you cold turkeyed and had nothing to assist you.

With loperamide, in my experience and the experience of many others, you can eliminate all of the withdrawals. I jumped off of suboxone three months ago and used lope - and I didn't experience any withdrawals the first week as a result of the high doses of loperamide I took.

I think the most painless way to withdrawal is to take maybe 50mg of loperamide once you start going into withdrawal. From there, simply take one less pill (-2mg) every day until you are done. It takes a little less than a month and it will help you avoid almost all of the withdrawals.

You can also skip days with loperamide fairly easy as it has a long half life. i noticed that one big dose of loperamide alleviated my suboxone withdrawals for a full two to three days. Skipping days is also good as the constipation can be retched.

 

[*=Regulator=*]

Quick update: still waiting for these horrible wd's to actually start.

Thus far today, I've taken (not at all once):
- 400mg Clonodine
- 32mg Immodium
- ~40mg Valium
- 2 cones (bowls) of decent mids
- ~standard drinks of alcohol

As you might expect after taking such a cocktail of drugs that have a tendency to knock people out, I've been either sleeping or drowsy. Aside from that, I've only had very mild nausea and zero motivation to do anything other than lie back in bed and enjoy my massive Bravia TV.

I keep waiting for the Trainspotting style WD's to kick-in (dead babies crawling along my roof etc.) but nothing like that's happened. Either I'm not in full WD yet or *fingers crossed* the other meds have taken care of the worst of it.

Mods: I intend to update this thread regularly with my experiences so it's inevitably going to end up being more of a journal than a typical thread. I think it might have some use as a thread for others in OD WDing from sub/bupe but with the mega-threads, not sure if it really fits. Would you prefer me to leave this and just start a journal?

Cheers

 

[*=Regulator=*]

Eight posts in this thread Skagkush!

Thanks for the help!

 

[CitioKid]

Quick update: still waiting for these horrible wd's to actually start.

Thus far today, I've taken (not at all once):
- 400mg Clonodine
- 32mg Immodium
- ~40mg Valium
- 2 cones (bowls) of decent mids
- ~standard drinks of alcohol

As you might expect after taking such a cocktail of drugs that have a tendency to knock people out, I've been either sleeping or drowsy. Aside from that, I've only had very mild nausea and zero motivation to do anything other than lie back in bed and enjoy my massive Bravia TV.

I keep waiting for the Trainspotting style WD's to kick-in (dead babies crawling along my roof etc.) but nothing like that's happened. Either I'm not in full WD yet or *fingers crossed* the other meds have taken care of the worst of it.

Mods: I intend to update this thread regularly with my experiences so it's inevitably going to end up being more of a journal than a typical thread. I think it might have some use as a thread for others in OD WDing from sub/bupe but with the mega-threads, not sure if it really fits. Would you prefer me to leave this and just start a journal?

Cheers

Update?

 

[ta2demon]

I will eventually be in the same boat as OP..I have been taking sub for probably 4-5 months...Anywhere from 8mg to 4mg a day or every other day depending how I feel..I just quit seeing my sub doctor (pulled a no show on purpose to get kicked out cuz I refuse to be handcuffed like this anymore) cuz $225 a session and $500 a month for the meds is just too much..he scribed me 16mg a day but I never used that much..4mg usually does the trick..I know have about 27 8mg ones left and I need a taper schedule that leaves me with close to zero W/Ds or I know I'll go cop if I feel too shitty..Any taper schedule advice? I could make 27 of them last 3 months (probably alot more) if I needed to...

The only reason I even take them or would want to take them is because I LOVE knowing I can't use when on them so I don't even think about it..I am worried about completely getting off them but I just have to do it...My GF is getting sick of it (even tho she loves doing them from time to time) and I also have been putting off a surgery because of it..

I am just glad I am on them for my vacation to San Francisco tomorrow knowing how easy it is to score there...Well that is assuming from what I have heard..I have never actually been there.