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Meth Sublingual correct method

cletusSamboy

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Where is the best place to place drugs for sublingual absorption?
First time I tried meth I placed a bit on the top of my tongue and it instantly dissolved and within about a minute it kicked in. I've tried this method numerous times and it never seems to absorb. Just ends up taking as long as oral absorption. I've tried under the tongue on gums without swallowing for 10 minutes. My mouth just ends up filled with saliva and I just swish it around my mouth. No matter what it never seems to absorb and ends up taking as long as oral ingestion. What gives?
 
Sublingual means under the tongue in latin, anywhere else in the mouth is considered buccal administration . So under the tongue (there's some big veins there) I guess.
 
1ml strong vodka or other alcohol (40-80%)
and crushed meth sublingually ~10minutes will work fine. Alcohol boosts absorption. This method increases Buprenorphines absorption too.
does this principle apply to opiates and benzo's?
 
Should we take a smaller than usual dose of crystal meth when taking it sublingually? If so, what's the ratio of sublingual to oral? I take ~20mg of crystal meth orally every day, but a few days back, I was feeling meh after like 3 hours of taking an oral 25mg crystal meth (I guess probably because I took 1mg Xanax 7-8 hours before meth dose for sleep, but I'm not totally sure), so I measured an 11mg crystal and took it sublingually (this is after 3 hours of taking my first 25mg dose). And gosh, the effect kicked in within 20 to 25 seconds (taking crystal meth orally would take at least 30 minutes to kick in for me). At that point, my heart was racing at 150 BPM, and I was feeling very anxious; along with a racing heart rate, my pupils also got dilated (which doesn't happen with my usual oral dose). I tried to calm myself down for about an hour, stayed hydrated, and took 2g of Vitamin C supplements. After about 1.5 hrs, I was still anxious and had a fast rate (140-150 BPM), so at this point, I decided to take my 1mg Xanax. The Xanax kicked in after 20 minutes, I felt less anxious, and my heart started to slow down gradually. After about an hour of the Xanax dose, I was back to normal, the anxiety was gone, my heart rate was back to normal (90-100 BPM), and I felt a lot calmer.

I know I'm putting my heart under stress by taking meth (upper) and Xanax (downer) simultaneously, but Xanax helped me kick out anxiety and a racing heart rate that day; Xanax's a lifesaver.

I'm not sure I will try the sublingual route again, but that was my experience. Maybe I shouldn't have taken that first 25mg dose (which is a slightly higher dose because I almost always only take 20mg or under, but I took it since I was feeling a little buzz).

I'm not sure about the exact {sublingual crystal meth}:{oral crystal meth} ratio, but pretty sure I should take way less when I'm going to take it sublingually. But the kick time was very, very fast when I took it sublingually (funny enough, I still had a small amount of crystal under my tongue when it started to kick in, and my heart started to race, so I had to spit that out and rinse my mouth).
 
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Should we take a smaller than usual dose of crystal meth when taking it sublingually? If so, what's the ratio of sublingual to oral? I take ~20mg of crystal meth orally every day, but a few days back, I was feeling meh after like 3 hours of taking an oral 25mg crystal meth (I guess probably because I took 1mg Xanax 7-8 hours before meth dose for sleep, but I'm not totally sure), so I measured an 11mg crystal and took it sublingually (this is after 3 hours of taking my first 25mg dose). And gosh, the effect kicked in within 20 to 25 seconds (taking crystal meth orally would take at least 30 minutes to kick in for me). At that point, my heart was racing at 150 BMP, and I was feeling very anxious; along with a racing heart rate, my pupils also got dilated (which doesn't happen with my usual oral dose). I tried to calm myself down for about an hour, stayed hydrated, and took 2g of Vitamin C supplements. After about 1.5 hrs, I was still anxious and had a fast rate (140-150 BPM), so at this point, I decided to take my 1mg Xanax. The Xanax kicked in after 20 minutes, I felt less anxious, and my heart started to slow down gradually. After about an hour of the Xanax dose, I was back to normal, the anxiety was gone, my heart rate was back to normal (90-100 BMP), and I felt a lot calmer.

I know I'm putting my heart under stress by taking meth (upper) and Xanax (downer) simultaneously, but Xanax helped me kick out anxiety and a racing heart rate that day; Xanax's a lifesaver.

I'm not sure I will try the sublingual route again, but that was my experience. Maybe I shouldn't have taken that first 25mg dose (which is a slightly higher dose because I almost always only take 20mg or under, but I took it since I was feeling a little buzz).

I'm not sure about the exact {sublingual crystal meth}:{oral crystal meth} ratio, but pretty sure I should take way less when I'm going to take it sublingually. But the kick time was very, very fast when I took it sublingually (funny enough, I still had a small amount of crystal under my tongue when it started to kick in, and my heart started to race, so I had to spit that out and rinse my mouth).

Remember too you’ll like have rebound anxiety from the Xanax especially if you take it often enough. Not saying it was that alone but the intense heart rate could of been contributed by that. Also taking two doses changes up the pharmacology a bit as certain enzymes are used or saturated.

I’d say sublingual to oral, I’d take 15mg to 20mg orally.

-GC
 
Remember too you’ll like have rebound anxiety from the Xanax especially if you take it often enough. Not saying it was that alone but the intense heart rate could of been contributed by that. Also taking two doses changes up the pharmacology a bit as certain enzymes are used or saturated.

I’d say sublingual to oral, I’d take 15mg to 20mg orally.

-GC
But doesn’t the sublingual route put my heart and body at sudden intense stress/shock since the kick in time is very very quick with sublingual administration? When I take it orally, the kick in is gradual and smooth (20-30 minutes) and I believe a smooth onset wouldn’t put my body in a sudden intense stress (which would deteriorate my body if it put under sudden stress regularly). So if I would be taking it on regular basis, wouldn’t the oral route with smooth onset considered ideal for my body in the long term?

I only take crystal meth for productivity purposes (I’m a workaholic when I’m on meth). But panic, anxiety, sudden shock and a racing heart rate will ruin the very reason why I take meth.
 
But doesn’t the sublingual route put my heart and body at sudden intense stress/shock since the kick in time is very very quick with sublingual administration? When I take it orally, the kick in is gradual and smooth (20-30 minutes) and I believe a smooth onset wouldn’t put my body in a sudden intense stress (which would deteriorate my body if it put under sudden stress regularly). So if I would be taking it on regular basis, wouldn’t the oral route with smooth onset considered ideal for my body in the long term?

I only take crystal meth for productivity purposes (I’m a workaholic when I’m on meth). But panic, anxiety, sudden shock and a racing heart rate will ruin the very reason why I take meth.
I k ow this is kind of old and I’ve been absent here for a long time but what I think it is because I have pretty severe cptsd and I used to hate saying that because I felt like it was victimizing myself but I really do and it’s amazing I could ever enjoy large doses of stims Vernon the past and yeah I say that because I mean all of them except maybe pharmaceutical meth (despoxyn) which I think is just the D isomer so truthfully I always wanted to try it. i think there’s maybe a handful of drs in the entire us that prescribe it and I really believe that. And I guess maybe a 1-3 formulations of adhd meds like focalin and jornay…ime the way it’s formulated does make a big difference and sometimes I like the ones that are supposed to be less addictive more, like vyvanse. I used to love that stuff. Idk was like the least anxiety producing stim for me and had great recreational effects at even as low as 60 mg. I was prescribed it at that, then started abusing it and well really I got off it really in my own accord but just ended up keep on switching.

And I’m fairly experienced with ice and back to my point. Sorry I have like I said adhd and am on the spectrum and my mind jumps to things. I end up losing the subject in it sometimes but I caught myself.

Anyway, to your point about causing more anxiety. I think it’s mainly for me if I make any anxious and even if not really consciously anxious if that makes sense. Because for me I’m kind of use to my anxiety being elevated to some degree and what I’m about to say primarily happens though when I have a lot to plan for or worry about more than i usually do.

What I mean is if I take it when I have no one I’m worried about that disproves being around or coming over then im usually fine. Usually. Or say if I have a lot I’m worried about that will do it and it makes the experience unbearable.

More like torture than recreational.

like I went to a mental health lockdown unit when my wife and I were just starting to go thru this start if divorce but it’s complicated it wasn’t divorce yet and she didn’t threaten to leave me at that time we were ok kinda.

Both miserable but ok in terms of speaking to each other I guess and idk.

I was struggling with mental health things and have for the last couple years really badly. And well I took like a gram of meth and what I couldn’t snort I swallowed and I had a gram a fentanyl to finish once I was done. And idk I guess I thought the fentanyl would still work and calm me down until the meth wore off and would be a killer high only tolerable because the fentanyl but I ha second thoughts and waited and maybe I didn’t do the math right idk and well when I was at the hospital I as I’m the lobby bathroom and someone was at the door shook the handle maybe once but in my mind I was like omg someone trying to get in cops!!!

And I had the fentanyl in my hand in the open baggie getting ready to take it and dropped it in g he hooked in accident as I was just done kissing and idk had just did the ice not long before and so I lost that but when I got back I told them what I did and no help.
Nothing at all. I mean I didn’t expect a Benz o but it would have been appropriate to at least called the squad and idk.

Like they judged me and i was wondering around the lock down unit aimlessly cowering when people oils just be trying to be nice (patients) like hey man are you alright and I’d cower and I mean shook cower and maybe psychosis and they did nothing.

That literally went on for 12 hours as I could g really voice my needs. I’d get frozen from anxiety when I’d start to talk and freeze and lose my thought completely. no one took my blood pressure ans pulse for even like 11-12 hours and they are supposed to bd o it on arrival in the lobby and as soon as you get back.

I think they may e thought well it’s just meth, he’s just spun and it will be okay when he comes down. Why do the paperwork to have to send him to the ER.

I say that because if it’s dangerous levels and I know it was, that they have to.

I’ve been there a lot but not like this. So maybe idk they just assumed things m.

Anyway that’s my story and what I think about the anxiety issue I’m your case.

Also, I dont check your bp and stuff while you are high outside of medical care because it just makes you anxious even to think about it well for me but did and yeah idk that’s my thoughts
 
I k ow this is kind of old and I’ve been absent here for a long time but what I think it is because I have pretty severe cptsd and I used to hate saying that because I felt like it was victimizing myself but I really do and it’s amazing I could ever enjoy large doses of stims Vernon the past and yeah I say that because I mean all of them except maybe pharmaceutical meth (despoxyn) which I think is just the D isomer so truthfully I always wanted to try it. i think there’s maybe a handful of drs in the entire us that prescribe it and I really believe that. And I guess maybe a 1-3 formulations of adhd meds like focalin and jornay…ime the way it’s formulated does make a big difference and sometimes I like the ones that are supposed to be less addictive more, like vyvanse. I used to love that stuff. Idk was like the least anxiety producing stim for me and had great recreational effects at even as low as 60 mg. I was prescribed it at that, then started abusing it and well really I got off it really in my own accord but just ended up keep on switching.

And I’m fairly experienced with ice and back to my point. Sorry I have like I said adhd and am on the spectrum and my mind jumps to things. I end up losing the subject in it sometimes but I caught myself.

Anyway, to your point about causing more anxiety. I think it’s mainly for me if I make any anxious and even if not really consciously anxious if that makes sense. Because for me I’m kind of use to my anxiety being elevated to some degree and what I’m about to say primarily happens though when I have a lot to plan for or worry about more than i usually do.

What I mean is if I take it when I have no one I’m worried about that disproves being around or coming over then im usually fine. Usually. Or say if I have a lot I’m worried about that will do it and it makes the experience unbearable.

More like torture than recreational.

like I went to a mental health lockdown unit when my wife and I were just starting to go thru this start if divorce but it’s complicated it wasn’t divorce yet and she didn’t threaten to leave me at that time we were ok kinda.

Both miserable but ok in terms of speaking to each other I guess and idk.

I was struggling with mental health things and have for the last couple years really badly. And well I took like a gram of meth and what I couldn’t snort I swallowed and I had a gram a fentanyl to finish once I was done. And idk I guess I thought the fentanyl would still work and calm me down until the meth wore off and would be a killer high only tolerable because the fentanyl but I ha second thoughts and waited and maybe I didn’t do the math right idk and well when I was at the hospital I as I’m the lobby bathroom and someone was at the door shook the handle maybe once but in my mind I was like omg someone trying to get in cops!!!

And I had the fentanyl in my hand in the open baggie getting ready to take it and dropped it in g he hooked in accident as I was just done kissing and idk had just did the ice not long before and so I lost that but when I got back I told them what I did and no help.
Nothing at all. I mean I didn’t expect a Benz o but it would have been appropriate to at least called the squad and idk.

Like they judged me and i was wondering around the lock down unit aimlessly cowering when people oils just be trying to be nice (patients) like hey man are you alright and I’d cower and I mean shook cower and maybe psychosis and they did nothing.

That literally went on for 12 hours as I could g really voice my needs. I’d get frozen from anxiety when I’d start to talk and freeze and lose my thought completely. no one took my blood pressure ans pulse for even like 11-12 hours and they are supposed to bd o it on arrival in the lobby and as soon as you get back.

I think they may e thought well it’s just meth, he’s just spun and it will be okay when he comes down. Why do the paperwork to have to send him to the ER.

I say that because if it’s dangerous levels and I know it was, that they have to.

I’ve been there a lot but not like this. So maybe idk they just assumed things m.

Anyway that’s my story and what I think about the anxiety issue I’m your case.

Also, I dont check your bp and stuff while you are high outside of medical care because it just makes you anxious even to think about it well for me but did and yeah idk that’s my thoughts
well I see now I'm not alone in writing, or I was but also weird divorce so just be tough trust me you just learn how to breathe and meditate while lowering those stims, or sleep it of!

it is not easy but it is not hard even, relative to state of mind that is bombarded with O I must this and I must this, to who am I forcing myself, can they do what I can?

Dunno just stay safe and strong try also ketosis, we think it is a small part but put a reminder for just a sip of water, proteins not carbs et cet...

Surround yourself with yourself if nobody, there is always someone like me who will read and booom mental pictures. So I know I dont have afantasia. 1:0
 
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