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Miscellaneous Strychnine's association with peyote and LSD

I wanna remind everybody that when strychnine in acid myths were big that blotter was not the common method of dosing.

With many urban myths, the myth can cause the thing to happen. It's possible, I guess, that someone heard the strychine in acid myth and then actually did it. However, it would have been a lot harder to do since tableting machines made the doses further up the line and I doubt strychine would have been added there. So, possibly in the more homemade caps you would see occasionally but still unlikely.

Telling is that there was also the "speed in acid" myth. So, the initial somatic stimulation throwing people into uncomfortable trips is likely the source of all the stories.

Now, for the real debate, was dirty acid more speedy on the come up? :) ;)
 
Speaking of dirty acid, there's an interesting quote about it in one of the links in my original post:

Strychnine is not the cause of tracers, cramps, nausea, or amphetamine-like LSD-effects. Its possible that poorly synthesized LSD might have other ergot derivatives in it, which might contribute to the harsh body load that some get on taking LSD. Also, the very close chemical relatives 1-Methyl-LSD and 1-Acetyl-LSD (which break down into LSD in aqueous solution) might be present in some street samples and might contribute to the harsh body load. (Petter Stafford has claimed in his _Psychedelics Encyclopedia_ that 1-Acetyl-LSD is supposedly "smoother" than d-LSD -- thus "strychnine laced acid" may acutally be pure d-LSD, while "pure lsd" may be 1-Acetyl-LSD or some substitute). And the chemicals iso-LSD and lumi-LSD which are breakdown products of LSD might contribute to the body loading on some trips, particularly via a hypothetical synergistic effect. Given this plethora of possible chemicals in street "LSD", its not needed to look to a chemical which has hardly ever been found in analyzed samples to explain variations in the strength and "cleanliness" of street acid.

Its also possible that LSD itself simply causes adverse physical effects, particularly muscle cramping, in persons suceptible to it. The reported side effects of LSD (the nausea and apparent CNS stimulant effects) are commonly reported side effects of seritonergic drugs such as fluoxetine (Prozac) and buspirone (Buspar), and also are commonly reported (and typically more severe) with other psychedelics like Mescaline.
[email protected], Apr 8, 1993, alt.drugs (UseNet). RUN FOR YOUR LIVES ITS STRYCHNINE!
Included on this page: Myths: Strychnine in LSD? (Erowid) (Lamont Granquist, Hyperreal Drug Archives and alt.drugs, 1994)

This is another quote from that article, which echoes the second paragraph:

The physiological signs which people attribute to being due to "bad acid" or to stychinine, amphetamine and the like seem to show up in the literature for clinical experimentation with LSD. So, it is likely that to some extent these effects are potentially found in association with LSD itself. Although, based on field work and other experience i am inclined to think that factors such as dietary, endocrine rythems & diurnal cycles, as well as set & setting influence the extent to which undesirable effects may exhibit with various entheogens. The Yachajruna (Quijos, Ecuador) who was my informant was very particular about diet and lunar phase when using (enetama) Banisteriopsis sp. Many traditional users of entheogens (i.e., shaman's as categorized in anthropology) insist on "purification(s)" being performed before utilization of an entheogen.
George Root, Oct 20, 1994. alt.drugs (UseNet), 'Re: What are the different kinds of LSD?'.
 
The Shroomery is gradually going south. Your thread was packed with hard to get info, scraping the web. And then dump it to censor information about Other Drugs, in Other Drugs Discussion, a subforum only visible to established members? That's not harm reduction, at all.

One of your sources said that sometimes 100 micrograms is enough for him, and his usual sweet spot is 500 mcg.

That locks into goosestep with AI claiming that 0.5-1.5 is a regular dose. and that more should be avoided.

I can see that strychnine which intensifies your senses could be mistaken for low dose psychedelics. Most of what a low dose psilocybe cyanescens does for me amounts to intensifying the senses.

I ordered 100gr Strychnos Nux-Vomica seeds, 30mg of which might contain about 500 mcg strychnine and 500 mcg brucine.

I read of Brucine that it's 1/8 the toxicity of Strychnine and that a probable lethal dose for a human is a gram.

I will probably grind the seeds, make a tincture with booze and precision dose it in half a glass of water with a syringe, for oral use.
I will probably start at 5mg of the seed.
Better safe than tonic-clonic breakless breakdancing, right?

I'm scared to dance with this demon, but dance we will.

I gotta link that provocative song, i guess it was part of what triggered whatever mod slamdunked it at the shroomery.



Warning: Strychnine will brutally mess you up if you use too much or too often, because it can accumulate over consecutive days.

Don't handle this if you couldn't handle fentanyl powder. Its is very high risk for a modest high.

Don't do this.
 
How about nutmeg sheesh risk vs reward makes me think of that 😜 What is fentanyl like playing with a little gasoline and fire or TNT you don't know how quick the fuse burns though plus the stick is right next to the detonator?

This boggled me up sorry to get jumbled thank you for a very informative debunking on strychnine though I learned about it reading that very interesting history

The song does not provoke me in the slightest I would rather stick to what people say feels good without much danger

I wouldn't touch fent I certainly see nothing about strychnine to warrant a trial ever surely the vaults of Erowid can put to rest any lingering notion why I might see a redeeming quality

Stranded on an island only two things to take are fent and strych ya I would do both haha

Ok my analogies aren't necessary best wishes if you ingest this sounds scary
 
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I will probably grind the seeds, make a tincture with booze and precision dose it in half a glass of water with a syringe, for oral use.
I will probably start at 5mg of the seed.
Better safe than tonic-clonic breakless breakdancing, right?

That could result in hot spots because strychnine is much less soluble in water than it is alcohol:


Solubility of strychnine:

160 mg/L at 250 C water [USEPA-NIH; Oil and Hazardous Materials Technical Assistance Data Systems (OHM-TADS) (1986)]

6.7 g/L ethanol [Worthing, C.R., S.B. Walker (eds.). The Pesticide Manual - A World Compendium. 7th ed. Lavenham, Suffolk, Great Britain: The Lavenham Press Limited, 1983., p. 496]

1 gm dissolves in 182 ml ethanol, 6.5 ml chloroform, 150 ml benzene, 250 ml methanol, 83 ml pyridine.[Budavari, S. (ed.). The Merck Index - An Encyclopedia of Chemicals, Drugs, and Biologicals. Whitehouse Station, NJ: Merck and Co., Inc., 1996., p. 1512]

Very slightly soluble in ether.[Budavari, S. (ed.). The Merck Index - An Encyclopedia of Chemicals, Drugs, and Biologicals. Whitehouse Station, NJ: Merck and Co., Inc., 1996., p. 1512]

Slightly soluble in ethanol and acetone; insoluble in ethyl ether.[Lide, D.R. (ed.). CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. 79th ed. Boca Raton, FL: CRC Press Inc., 1998-1999., p. 3-316]

Soluble in chloroform, slightly soluble in alcohol and benzene, slightly soluble in ether.[Lewis, R.J., Sr (Ed.). Hawley's Condensed Chemical Dictionary. 12th ed. New York, NY: Van Nostrand Rheinhold Co., 1993, p. 1097]

In water, 160 mg/l @ 25 deg C.[Seidell A; Solubilities of Organic Compounds. NY,NY: d. Van Norstrand Co., Inc (1941)]

...

Procedure for the aqueous extraction of alkaloid strychnine:
Though the strychnine alkaloid is insoluble in water, it has partial soluble nature in water. Based on this principle, the stem pieces are soaked in different vessels containing normal drinking water over night/12 hours at room temperature.

Preparation of Non-toxic Dosage of Aqueous Extract of Strychnine Alkaloid from the Stem Pieces of Strychnos- nux- vomica Plant for Controlling Blood Sugar Levels in Diabetes-induced Rabbits. Vanaparthi, V., Kumar, B. R., & Poda, S. (2017). Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences and Research, 9(11), 2127-2132. ISSN: 0975-1459 (page 2129)
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https://www.jpsr.pharmainfo.in/Documents/Volumes/vol9Issue11/jpsr09111730.pdf
 
It's an urban myth - never had any truth in it to begin with. It's like the bloke who took acid and thought he was a glass of orange juice and if you push him over he will "spill". Pure bullshit.
 
The plot thickens:

“An example of how dangerous black-market LSD can be is the following case. In 1970, we received a drug powder, sold as LSD, for analysis from the criminal police of the city of Basel. It came from a young man who had been admitted to the hospital in a life-threatening condition. His friend, who had also consumed this preparation, had died from its effects. The analysis revealed that the powder contained no LSD but the highly toxic alkaloid strychnine.”

Albert Hofmann. LSD: My Problem Child, 1979. 5. LSD on the Black Market (section: From Medicine to Recreational Drug). Translated by ChatGPT
 
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One thing about urban myths. They can very often come true after the fact since people will hear them and then try to emulate. A self fulfilling prophecy, if you will.
Not saying that is the case. Just mentioning the possibility.
 
Well, I think I found the source of the rumor that one should scrape HBWR seeds before consuming them:

“The standard procedure is to scrape or singe the white layer from the seed coat before grinding. This layer is believed to contain a strychnine-like alkaloid which may cause undesirable symptoms.”

The First Book of Sacraments of the Church of the Tree of Life: A Guide for the Religious Use of Legal Mind Alterants. John Mann (ed.), 1972, San Francisco: Tree of Life Press (OLOLUIQUE and related sacraments in the Morning Glory (Bindweed) family, p. 13)

Interesting book too: https://www.cultjones.com/product/m...sacraments-of-the-church-of-the-tree-of-life/

It's interesting that the book makes this claim because at the beginning of this post, I quoted an author who mentions a rumor that the white fuzz on the surface of peyote contains strychnine. HBWR seeds don't have a white layer, but they do have tiny hairs. Obviously whoever wrote that statement got the two ethnobotanicals mixed up, thus remixing a rumor. And somone in alt.drugs remixed the rumor again when he warned that the hairs contain cyanogenic glycosides; and this was added to Erowid.* This is a good example of how a single line of text can result in so much unneccessary work.

To put one persistent myth to rest, there is no strychnine in peyote. The white fuzz that is usually removed from the buttons before ingestion can be a gastroirritant, but it does not contain strychnine. However, lophophorine, accounting for about 0.18% of the dry weight of the buttons, can cause some symptoms similar to strychnine poisoning, such as a sickening feeling in the back of the head, and hotness and blushing of the face. Lophophorine causes violent convulsions when injected into rabbits at concentrations of 12 milligrams per kilogram of body weight.

Pharmako/Gnosis: Plant Teachers and the Poison Path. Dale Pendell, 2005, 2009. Peyote: Lophophora williamsii, page 106


*“Note: the fuzzy coating on the outside contains cyanogenic glycosides which can make you really sick if you eat enough (same kind of stuff in apple seeds).”

Peter Jordan. Re: Woodrose vs Ipomoea. alt.drugs, UseNet, 10/1/1994 https://erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw_info1.shtml


Someone who wrote a textbook about Morning Glories (HBWR is a Morning Glory) actually included a section titled 'Cyanogenic Glycosides' and he said that they've only been found in a few Morning Glories and that they probably aren't found in many.[1] Also, a moderator on this site has spoken against this rumor:

There is nothing in the seed coat that makes you sick. That is a myth. The sickness is caused by glycosides found inside the seed. I've eaten seeds scraped and not scraped and there is no difference what-so-ever in the degree of sickness produced.

morninggloryseed, 26-03-2004, https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/lsas-subthread-extraction-of-lsas.123944/post-1779004

MGs do, however, contain resin glycosides, which are responsible for the nausea[2][3]


Kinda off the subject, but I am in the process of writing FAQs on the "fuzzy layer myth" of baby woodrose seeds, as well as a bit of info on adrenochrome (which is active, though the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas in not a good reference for what it actually does.) I will present both of course when they are ready and they will include proper citations of relevant data.

morninggloryseed, 07-12-2003, https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/combo-subthread-psychedelics-amphetamines.109304/post-1456101


1. Eich E (January 12, 2008). Solanaceae and convolvulaceae - secondary metabolites: biosynthesis, chemotaxonomy, biological and economic significance: a handbook. Berlin, Heidelberg: Springer-Verlag. doi:10.1007/978-3-540-74541-9. ISBN 978-3-540-74540-2. OCLC 195613136

See 6.2 Cyanogenic Glycosides, p. 274

2. Bendz G, Santesson J. (1973, 2013). Chemistry in Botanical Classification: Medicine and Natural Sciences: Medicine and Natural Sciences. Elsevier. ISBN 978-0-323-16251-7

“Among the most striking characteristics of the family is the occurrence of rows of secretory cells with milky, resinous contents. Resin glycosides are among the most important chemical characteristics of the family. The occurrence of tropine alkaloids in Convolvulus species and lysergic acid type alkaloids in Ipomoea and Rivea species as well as a wide distribution of cinnamic acid derivatives and coumarins are also noteworthy. The last two groups of compounds are common to both the Convolvulaceae and Solanaceae families.” H Wagner, 'The Chemistry of Resin Glycosides of the Convolvulaceae Family', p. 235

2. Ono M (October 2017). "Resin glycosides from Convolvulaceae plants". Journal of Natural Medicines. 71 (4): 591–604. doi:10.1007/s11418-017-1114-5

“Resin glycosides are well known as purgative ingredients,” (Abstract)
 
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Lol

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Found that cleaning out my garage last year.

A lot of that book was taken from the "Mary Jane Superweed" pamphlets which also said that about Woodrose seeds. I used to buy the pods and didn't the seeds have a bit of a coating on them when you broke them out? Not that there's strychnine in it.
 
Nux Vomica is an energetic poison, exerting its influence chiefly upon the cerebrospinal system; it is supposed to affect the spinal cord principally, because the division of this cord does not prevent its poisonous influence, and, again, because when the cord is destroyed by the introduction of a piece of whalebone into the spinal canal, the convulsions immediately cease.


a sensation of […] heaviness is experienced


... and a very disagreeable, dreamy or vague condition of the brain.


In medicinal doses, Nux Vomica is tonic, and increases the action of the various excretory organs; it should always be given, as well as its alkaloids, in doses to fall short of any immediate sensible effects upon the system. It is principally employed in cases where there is a want of nervous energy, as in the treatment of paralysis,


Nux Vomica and its alkaloids should always be given with great care, the physician closely observing its effects.


The American Dispensatory. John King, 1875, Wilstach & Baldwin. STRYCHNOS NUX VOMICA. (Gemeine Krähenauge), Properties and Uses, pgs. 814–815

 
My ex had a teacher who swear by Strychnine, in a stimulant kinda away.
Not as a toxin, so i presume it was a OTC med at a time.
He was talking about back then when to her.

Seeing its a sort of non-hallucinogenic low dose LSD, stimulant.
Makes more sense, it could actually be a stimulating nootropic.
Who knows her teacher claimed it was a very good refresher of the body/ mind.
 
Translated from Polish with Grok


Strychnine – Strychninum and Strychnos in Medicine

Strychnine is one of my favorite medicinal substances. From the moment I obtained authorization to purchase and use strychnine, I immediately did so. I consider strychnine nitrate, pure strychnine, and Strychnos seeds to be highly valuable, though unfortunately they are rarely used today, unlike in the past when their application was widespread. Currently, strychnine can be found in Polish Cardiamid-Coffein drops (0.25 mg/ml), and I believe this small addition ensures their effective action, alongside caffeine (100 mg/1 ml). Nikethamide, however, is too weak a substance to induce a surge of energy or revive the faint and lethargic. Incidentally, the true effect of Cardiamid-Coffein drops becomes evident not at a dose of 10-20 drops (which produces a placebo effect), but at a 1 ml dose, delivering 100 mg of nikethamide, 100 mg of caffeine, and a quarter mg of strychnine.

Strychnine is an indole alkaloid found in the strychnine tree – Strychnos nux-vomica L. – from the Loganiaceae family. The strychnine tree grows in tropical regions from India to northern Australia. It is cultivated in India, Cameroon, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Thailand, Laos, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, and Vietnam. The tree reaches heights of 12 (sometimes 15) meters; its bark is smooth and whitish; its leaves are petiolate, broadly elliptical, alternately arranged, and glossy. The flowers are white, short-stalked, gathered in axillary inflorescences, and fragrant. The fruit is an orange-shaped berry with white pulp, containing bitter alkaloid-rich seeds. The seeds are flat, button-like, with a small bump on one side, gray-green in color, up to 3 cm wide and 7 mm thick, and silkily hairy.

Strychnos seeds contain 2 to 3% alkaloids (some authors suggest 1.5-5.3%), predominantly brucine C23H26O4N2 (55-60%), strychnine C21H22O2N2 (40-45%), vomicine (C22H24O4N2), and strychnicine (C21H22O2N); additionally, chlorogenic acid (also known as igasuric acid), the bitter glycoside loganin (meliatin), a fatty oil (3-4%), phytosterols, and proteins (about 11%), as well as the alkaloids alpha- and beta-colubrine.

Strychnine was identified in Strychnos seeds in 1818 by Joseph Bienaimé Caventou (1795-1877) and Pierre Joseph Pelletier (1788-1842). In 1819, they isolated the alkaloid brucine from the same plant. For a long time, strychnine’s structure remained unknown due to its classification among the most complex substances. According to C.D. Nenitescu (1969), its structure was studied by H. Leuchs (from 1908), R. Robinson, and H. Wieland (from 1929). Strychnine is a molecule with seven rings that does not easily break down into two or three identifiable components. It is a strong monobasic base. The second nitrogen atom, non-basic, is part of an amide group (NH-CO). Alkaline hydrolysis transforms strychnine into strychninic acid C21H24O3N2, containing a tertiary nitrogen, an -NH group, and a -COOH group. This hydrolysis does not cleave the molecule, indicating the -NH-CO group is part of a ring. This ring readily closes again, regenerating strychnine. The second oxygen atom, equally inert, belongs to an ether group. The presence of an indole ring in strychnine was proven by oxidation with nitric acid, yielding picric acid, 3,5-dinitrobenzoic acid, and 5,7-dinitroindole-2-carboxylic acid. Through systematic degradation reactions, R. Robinson established strychnine’s structural formula in 1946. Its structure was also confirmed physically via X-ray analysis of its salts (Bijvoet and independently Robertson, 1950). Total synthesis of strychnine, in about 30 steps, was achieved by R.B. Woodward and collaborators (Warren, Brehm) between 1948 and 1954.

Brucine C23H26O4N2+4H2O is dimethoxylated strychnine. When isolated, it forms needle-like crystals with a melting point of 178°C, soluble in alcohol, chloroform, and benzene, but poorly soluble in water. In some older publications, brucine was termed vomicine. Today, vomicine (4,16-dihydroxy-19-methyl-10-oxostrychnidinium, C22-H24-N2-O4) is recognized as a distinct alkaloid and should not be conflated with brucine. Vomicine occurs in Strychnos alongside brucine and strychnine. Recent studies confirm older findings that strychnicine and vomicine are distinct alkaloids. Until recently, it was mistakenly thought that strychnicine and vomicine were different names for the same compound, leading to erroneous differentiation.

In medicine, brucine has been and still is used in some countries as sulfate and nitrate forms – Brucinum sulfuricum et Brucinum nitricum. Applied externally, brucine has a local anesthetic effect. When taken internally, it acts like strychnine but much more weakly. It is estimated (historically and currently) that brucine has 1/40 to 1/50 the potency of strychnine (Hagers Handbuch der Pharmazeutischen Praxis, 1938; Samuelsson G., Bohlin L.: Drugs of Natural Origin, 2009). Historical doses of brucine ranged from 0.01-0.1 g in pills or drops. The highest single dose was 0.1 g, and the highest daily dose was 0.2 g. Brucine is less toxic than strychnine. Indications for its use included urinary disorders (incontinence, weak sphincters), depressive states in psychoses, cardiac neurosis, chronic alcoholism, mental and physical weakness (as a tonic – tonicum), intestinal atony, lack of appetite, emaciation (to stimulate Auerbach’s plexus), and sexual weakness.

Strychnine and Strychnos preparations increase spinal reflex excitability and vegetative reflexes, such as the knee-jerk reflex. They enhance the excitability of the vasomotor center, causing constriction of intestinal blood vessels and raising blood pressure. They stimulate the respiratory center, increasing lung ventilation intensity. They boost digestive juice secretion, improve appetite and digestion, stimulate gastrointestinal peristalsis, prevent intestinal atony and fecal stasis (constipation), and regulate bowel movements. They enhance reflex excitability of sexual centers in the spinal cord, increasing penile and clitoral erection, intensifying sexual sensations, activating libido, deepening orgasm, facilitating ejaculation, and stimulating vaginal contractions. They also increase uterine and bladder wall muscle tone. They heighten sensory nerve excitability, sharpening vision (especially sensitivity to blue light), deepening smell and taste acuity, and increasing touch sensitivity (lasting up to 3 days in some individuals). They stimulate the heart’s conduction system, accelerating heart rate, enhancing contraction strength, and increasing cardiac excitability. Doses of 5-10 mg strongly stimulate spinal reflexes and muscle tone, though movements may become impaired, often leading to muscle contractures, especially under environmental stimuli.

Strychnine and Strychnos preparations are rapidly absorbed from the intestines into the blood and lymph within 20 minutes and excreted unchanged in urine. Their mechanism of action involves reducing synaptic resistance through partial depolarization of the postsynaptic membrane, particularly in spinal, optic thalamus, and ganglionic synapses. This increases spinal reflexes, leading to heightened striated muscle tone and glucose release into the blood (hyperglycemia). Strychnine is a competitive antagonist of the glycine receptor, an inhibitory neurotransmitter in the spinal cord and brainstem. Strychnine and brucine are slowly excreted from the body over 5-7 days.

According to Pharmacopoea Helvetica IV of 1907, Strychnos seeds – Semen Strychni (German: Brechnuss, French: Noix vomique, Italian: Noce vomica) should contain no more than 3.5% ash and at least 2.5% alkaloids. Dosis max. simpl. (maximum single dose) 0.1 g (100 mg), dosis max. pro die (maximum daily dose) 0.2 g (200 mg). Official preparations included Extractum Strychni and Tinctura Strychni. The Strychnos tincture – Tinctura Strychni (German: Brechnusstinktur, French: Teinture de noix vomique, Italian: Tintura di noce vomica) contained at least 0.25% alkaloids and about 57-60% alcohol. Dosis max. simpl. (maximum single dose) 1 g; dosis max. pro die (maximum daily dose) 2 g.

Nux vomica is listed in the British Pharmacopoeia of 1932; official preparations: Extractum Nucis Vomicae Liquidum, Tinctura Nucis Vomicae, Extractum Nucis Vomicae siccum, Nux Vomica pulverata (max 3% ash). Powdered Nux Vomica contains about 1.2% strychnine (range: 1.14-1.26%), diluted with lactose. Tinctura Nucis Vomicae (Tincture of Nux Vomica) contained 0.125% strychnine (range: 0.119-0.131%; alcohol content: 47-50%; doses: 0.6-1 ml (10-30 minims)). Liquid extract of Strychnos seedsExtractum Nucis Vomicae Liquidum per Pharm. BritishLiquid Extract of Nux Vomica contained 1.5% strychnine (range: 1.425-1.575%); doses: 0.06-0.2 ml (1-3 minims). Dry extract of Strychnos seedsExtractum Nucis Vomicae siccumDry Extract of Nux Vomica contained 5% strychnine (range: 4.75-5.25%), prepared with 70% alcohol via percolation; doses: 0.015-0.06 g (1/4-1 grain).

The older British Pharmacopoeia of 1867 also includes Strychnos, strychnine, and Strychnos preparations: Nux Vomica from Strychnos Nux vomica Linne, Extractum Nucis Vomicae, Strychnia, and Tinctura Nucis Vomicae. Tinctura Nucis Vomicae – Tincture of Nux Vomica (Nux Vomica 2 ounces, rectified spirit 1 pint) – dose: 10-20 minims.

Polish Pharmacopoeia III includes Semen Strychni – Strychnos seeds from Strychnos Nux vomica Linne, containing at least 2.5% alkaloids, calculated based on the average molecular weight of strychnine C21H22O2N2 (MW 334.2) and brucine C23H26O4N2 (MW 394.2; average 364.2). Per FP III, only standardized Strychnos seed powder with 2.5% alkaloids should be used for prescription formulations, prepared by mixing powdered seeds with lactose to achieve the specified alkaloid content. Requirements align with the older Swiss Pharmacopoeia of 1907. Maximum single dose of powdered seeds: 0.1 g (100 mg); maximum daily dose: 0.3 g (300 mg). FP III also describes strychnine nitrate – Strychninum nitricum C21H22O2N2HNO3 (MW 397.4) – colorless, odorless crystals with a very bitter taste, soluble in 90 ml room-temperature water, 5 parts boiling water, 70 ml ethanol, and nearly insoluble in ether, chloroform, and carbon disulfide. Maximum single dose: 0.005 g (5 mg); maximum daily dose: 0.01 g (10 mg). Tinctura Strychni = Tinctura Nucis Vomicae* – a light yellow, very bitter tincture – should contain 0.24-0.26% alkaloids (based on the average molecular weight of strychnine and brucine, 364.2).

Preparation of Tinctura Strychni:
Semen Strychni crushed and sifted through sieve IV, 100 parts
Mixture of Spiritus 95% 676 parts + Aqua 324 parts – quantum satis (as needed).
Moisten 100 parts of powdered Strychnos seeds evenly with 40 parts of the prescribed solvent and percolate according to general instructions. Specific gravity: 0.895-0.910; ash: 0.03-0.04%; dry residue: 1.2-1.5%; alcohol content: 66-69% by volume. Maximum single dose: 1 g; maximum daily dose: 3 g.

Historical Medical Uses of Strychnine:

– Muscle weakness, central-origin paralysis,
– Impotence, reduced libido,
– Involuntary and nocturnal urination,
– Physical and mental weakness, including in debilitating and infectious diseases,
– Hypotension,
– Collapse, fainting,
– Narcotic and sedative poisoning,
– Retinal vision impairment, gradual vision loss due to optic nerve atrophy,
– Labyrinthine hearing loss,
– Gastrointestinal atony,
– Anorexia,
– Despondency, loss of will to fight illness, depression, “mental lows,” lack of appetite, digestive and intestinal transit disorders; helplessness in cancer,
– Reluctance for physical and mental effort,
– Pneumonia.

Strychninum nitricumstrychnine nitrate: Orally in powders, pills, solutions at 3 mg; intramuscular or subcutaneous injections of 1-2-3 mg. Maximum single dose: 0.005 g; maximum daily dose: 0.01 g.

Contraindications: Pregnancy, lactation.

Strychninum isovalerianicumstrychnine isovalerate – a very interesting and effective compound. Formerly used for nervous exhaustion, neuroses, low blood pressure, and circulatory-respiratory disorders. Administered via subcutaneous injections, daily 1 ampoule of 0.0015/1 ml or 0.003/1 ml. In my practice, I used an alcoholic solution of strychnine isovalerate at 3 mg, 1-2 times daily, with excellent results.

Poisoning. Strychnine and Strychnos preparations require precise dosing. A scale measuring 1-3 mg is indispensable. Strychnos should only be used by experienced and skilled phytotherapists. In strychnine poisoning (20-200 mg), initial symptoms include difficulty swallowing, neck stiffness, anxiety, muscle tremors, and spasms in the face and lower limbs. This progresses to a facial grimace resembling a smile (Risus sardonicus). This is followed by clonic and then tonic (tetanic) seizures. Light, sound, or touch can trigger convulsive attacks, during which the body arches backward (opisthotonus) or forward (emprosthotonus), legs extend, arms flex, and the abdomen and chest become board-like. Consciousness remains intact despite impaired breathing. The poisoned individual experiences panic, exhaustion, and muscle pain. Attacks last from 1/4 to 1/2 seconds, rarely a few minutes. Death (typically after 2-5 hours) results from asphyxiation, often after 3-5 attacks. After each attack, the individual suffers extreme mental and physical exhaustion, fear, drowsiness, and muscle fatigue. Strychnine is slowly metabolized and excreted, leading to accumulation with repeated doses, which must be considered during prolonged use. Historically, poisoning was treated by gastric lavage with potassium permanganate (4 g/L water) or 2% tannin solution, activated charcoal, and laxatives. Patients were placed in a dark, quiet environment away from intense stimuli. Magnesium sulfate was given parenterally, chloral hydrate orally or rectally, hexobarbital, bromide preparations, and iodine tincture (10 drops every 10 minutes) orally. Ether inhalation or artificial respiration (intubation) was sometimes employed.

Strychnine’s cardiac effects are ambiguous. Strychnine stimulates the vasomotor center but slows the heart rate, constricting visceral (including renal) blood vessels and raising blood pressure. It reduces excessive cardiac muscle excitability. A dilated atrium prone to fibrillation may stabilize due to increased wall tension, mitigating absolute arrhythmia (e.g., in mitral stenosis, tricuspid valve defects, or transient excitability issues in healthy hearts, such as from stress). Strychnine was used in infectious diseases with myocarditis (Łowicki J.A., Brejtman M.J., 1937; Leszczyński R.J., 1931). Jochweds B. and Izgur Al. (1939) note that most authors deny strychnine, at standard therapeutic doses, enhances cardiac muscle tone or contraction strength, suggesting it inhibits cardiac excitability. Nonetheless, it is an undeniably active substance, and claims by some clinicians (Mackenzie, Parkinson, Rowland) that it has no cardiovascular effect beyond psychological stimulation in exhaustion are untenable. Opinions on its use in hypertension vary: most clinicians fear further pressure increases, but some administer it in exhaustion with high blood pressure, aligning with Mackenzie’s view. Jochweds and Izgur injected 1-2 mg intravenously in hypertensive patients without notable pressure changes, either immediately or long-term.
Strychnine stimulates the respiratory center (deepening and accelerating breathing) and vagus nerve center, then Auerbach’s plexus. It temporarily enhances retinal excitability in normal and diseased eyes, improving visual acuity, color differentiation, and expanding the visual field, especially temporally for blue. It sharpens taste (sweet, bitter, sour) and increases smooth and skeletal muscle tone.

Professor J. Hano (1955) provided highly accurate data on strychnine doses and effects, consistent with my observations. Strychnine is widely used at 1-2 mg as a tonic, enhancing sensory and visceral smooth muscle reflexes. At these doses, it has no effect in an average-weight person. Doses of 5-10 mg markedly affect all spinal animal reflexes but not circulation, uterus, bladder, or intestines in hypodynamic states—though I’ve personally noted clear effects on the bladder and Auerbach’s plexus. I agree with Prof. Hano that 1-2 mg doses are a good digestive tonic, increasing saliva, gastric, pancreatic, and intestinal secretions, boosting appetite and digestion. He notes strychnine was once misused for all narcotic poisonings: “Today, partly due to picrotoxin’s scarcity, strychnine is used in large doses of 0.01-0.02 g, injected subcutaneously, intramuscularly, or intravenously, to rescue patients poisoned by barbituric acid derivatives. Despite its cumulative properties, these doses can be injected multiple times daily until reflexes and voluntary movements return, then discontinued. These doses could be lethal to a healthy person” (I believe they are lethal to a healthy individual).

Dr. Fr. Penzoldt (1891), known for critiquing contemporary remedies, assessed strychnine: “In some cases of partial blindness and double vision, strychnine may offer some benefit, but otherwise, it has little medicinal value.” Its bitter taste is detectable at 1:60,000. Strychnine has preservative properties (solutions don’t spoil). Penzoldt noted vision improvements, even in blindness not due to anatomical changes, via subcutaneous injections near the temples. It was less effective for motor paralysis but reportedly improved incomplete paralysis (paresis) post-disease. Unbiased researchers saw no special digestive benefit beyond other bitter drugs. “…currently, strychnine injections are highly praised for alcoholism. – Since pure strychnine can be used safely with caution, it’s preferable to other Strychnos preparations.” Penzoldt’s dosing scheme, widely valued then, was: “orally or subcutaneously: 0.001 to 0.01(!) g per dose, up to 0.02(!) g daily. Start at 0.002 g, increase by 0.001 g daily to 0.01 g, maintain for 56 days, then pause for 10-12 days.”

Strychnine was used medicinally as acetate (Strychninum aceticum), sulfate (Strychninum sulfuricum), cacodylate (Strychninum kakodylicum), nitrate (Strychninum nitricum), hydrochloride (Strychninum hydrochloricum), hydrobromide (Strychninum hydrobromicum), and isovalerate (Strychninum isovalerianicum), as well as in pure form (Strychninum purum). Strychnine and Strychnos preparations were often combined with arsenic, glycerophosphate, phosphorus, iron, vitamins, quinine, honey, cardamom, belladonna, ipecac, and others.


['Ancient and Modern Medicine: Dr. Henryk Różański; medical and biological sciences; phytotherapy, phytochemistry…' Strychnine – Strychninum and Strychnos in Medicine]. Dec 31 2010 [blog entry]

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'Medycyna dawna i współczesna: Dr Henryk Różański; nauki medyczne i biologiczne; fitoterapia, fitochemia…' Strychnina – Strychninum i kulczyba – Strychnos w medycynie
 
So, the manufacturer of this stuff has a bit of a problem with false advertising. The photo of the vial showed a dark liquid, but the stuff I received was transparent and only slightly brown when drawn into a clear syringe. Thus, this vial only had a few doses. This is what caused me to overdose: after getting no effects from 2 ½ syringes, I couldn't imagine that a few more would be risky, but little did I know that it had a slow onset, but let me tell you, rinsing the remnant of the vial today (~3 syringes) has me feeling excellent. The difference between yesterday's dose and today's is like night-and-day. I have a decent painkilling effect, and a very grounded, mild stimulant effect (i.e. better than caffeine, which I don't like). The body high actually reminds me of LSD's, but with more oomph, like LSD combined with a benzo or opioid (not talking about their potent psychological effects).

This is one of the best legal highs I've ever tried and I can't wait to get more.

I'm so taken by how clean this lower dose feels, when yesterday's dose made me feel sick and made me regret using it (in contrast, today I'm wishing I had more).

Mostly somatic, seems like it gives a minor increase in mental clarity and mood, but that could just be my response to the pleasant body high.

This definitely feels like the comedown of an illicit substance and I bet its a great potentiator of such substances!
Hello , are you talking about PICROTOXIN? 🙏🙏
 
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