Opioids Strange Oxycodone experience, anyone know why?

[sdr]

PREFACE: This is my first-ever experience with opiates. I took 20mg of Oxycodone immediate release (generic Roxycodone) orally at 11:00 P.M. on a Friday night, and had been awake since about 6 A.M. It’s worth noting that I have slow metabolism, which is possibly the cause of this unusual experience. My body weight is 170lbs. This is formatted as a report, but I just want to know why it happened this way.

T+00:00 - Took the dose.
T+00:10 - Slight drowsiness and nearly unnoticeable nausea, although likely just placebo.
T+00:25 - Noticeable tightness and pressure in jaw and head, not unpleasant.
T+01:00 - Noticeable body heaviness, slight difficulty walking. Not unpleasant, somewhat funny and interesting.
T+01:45 - Still no positive effects (likely due to slow metabolism). Noticeable nausea, moderately unpleasant, likely means effects will kick in soon. Attempting to counteract nausea by eating some light carbs. Have been regularly drinking water and checking my heartbeat and breathing, and will continue to do so.
T+01:50 - Very difficult to walk, significantly more so than 5 minutes ago, but still able to walk up and down stairs with slight stumbling. Writing becoming slightly difficult (this report is copied from the notebook I kept a log in). General fine motor impairment. Nausea is gone. I’ve just been sitting down in a comfortable spot watching YouTube, trying to make this experience as easy as possible.
T+02:15 - Significant time dilation, unbelievable that it’s already been 25 minutes since the last note. Nausea suddenly became bad, threw up although it was very light and painless since all that was in my stomach was tortilla chips and water. Still no positive effects, somehow, after almost 2.5 hours.
T+03:30 - So incredibly tired. The opiate drowsiness hit me hard, very comfortable in my bed, but no euphoria or real sedation. I have to go to sleep.

I think that either I was too tired after being awake for ~18 hours before taking this or that my opioid receptors are just not sensitive whatsoever. A very, very lame experience compared to some of the glowing ones I’ve read. Probably not going to try Oxycodone again. It is worth noting, though, that this was one of the most comfortable and refreshing sleeps that I’ve ever had, and I slept like a baby for almost 10 hours. The common first-time opiate hangover grogginess definitely hit me a bit after waking up, though.

 

[daturetard]

20 mg is too much for a first time, ime. I took ten and it was pretty good my first time. It's pretty hard to notice the first time you take it. After a few more doses, maybe one, you'll understand the magic. Try 10 or 15 next time.

 

[sdr]

20 mg is too much for a first time, ime. I took ten and it was pretty good my first time. It's pretty hard to notice the first time you take it. After a few more doses, maybe one, you'll understand the magic. Try 10 or 15 next time.

Yeah, makes sense. Thanks for the advice!

 

[sdr]

20 mg is too much for a first time, ime. I took ten and it was pretty good my first time. It's pretty hard to notice the first time you take it. After a few more doses, maybe one, you'll understand the magic. Try 10 or 15 next time.

Tried this, took 10mg on an empty stomach. Currently 4 hours later, feel literally nothing. As I said, I have zero tolerance or previous experience. It’s 100% legit Oxycodone immediate release, straight from the pharmacy. Strange.

 

[daturetard]

I almost want to say add 5 MG, but also. Don't want you to waste it. Only lasts about 4 hours in the first place. Do you take it for pain? Some people have naturally huge tolerances to opioids, some just don't like them at all. Any chance you've got a history of substance abuse in your family? Some folks inheiret their parents tolerance. Is the oxy your first opioid?

 

[sdr]

I almost want to say add 5 MG, but also. Don't want you to waste it. Only lasts about 4 hours in the first place. Do you take it for pain? Some people have naturally huge tolerances to opioids, some just don't like them at all. Any chance you've got a history of substance abuse in your family? Some folks inheiret their parents tolerance. Is the oxy your first opioid?

Definitely no history of substance abuse in my family. Have never, ever taken any opioids besides the first dose described in the original thread and that 10mg. The 10mg also caused a searing migraine in the morning (or at least I’m assuming it was caused by the oxy, I’ve had one other migraine in my life).

 

[daturetard]

Definitely no history of substance abuse in my family. Have never, ever taken any opioids besides the first dose described in the original thread and that 10mg. The 10mg also caused a searing migraine in the morning (or at least I’m assuming it was caused by the oxy, I’ve had one other migraine in my life).

That's super shitty. Yeah, opioids can cause rebound pain, including migraines. If that's how it's going, I'd leave it for another time when you're in pain. 5mg might be where you want to go. It won't be much of a head change, but if you're in pain and have it, it should help. Sorry you don't get the positive out of opioids.

 

[sdr]

That's super shitty. Yeah, opioids can cause rebound pain, including migraines. If that's how it's going, I'd leave it for another time when you're in pain. 5mg might be where you want to go. It won't be much of a head change, but if you're in pain and have it, it should help. Sorry you don't get the positive out of opioida

I guess I forgot to mention this is strictly recreational, just trying out opioids for the first time. Not trying to treat any pain. Guess I’m just getting the short end of the stick.

 

[WellTram]

*Experienced addict here

Well, oxycodone is not as great as u can hear in news. In terms of getting comfotable with only Oxy, i would need 200mg +. It makes u happy and slightly uplifted in mood first feel times, good for pain, short duration.

I know everybody reacts diffently, but equal doses of morphine were more sedating, better for pain, little bit longer acting.
Equal doses of hydromorphone were something that not even pure heroin Can compares to. Very strong rush, energetic high and perfect for pain. Short acting.
Equal doses od tapendadol were...hallucinogenic, short acting, medium for pain.
Equal doses of codeine Is possible to compare with only very, very low doses od Oxy. But even low codeine doses were nice for pain, very sedating, short acting.
Now, we can compare equal doses of tramadol but u need something against seizures because we are talking about 1000+mg which is 100% seizure without proper anticonvulsant. So, they are much better for pain, they can stop opi WD faster than oxy, it creates state of motivated sedation, u are calm and sedated and suddenly it can provide energy as if it was amphetamine ( maybe because of this IT IS better for pain ). It's also 2x longer acting. But tramadol WD Is on level of hydromorphone and heroin. It's also instant antidepressive (works in 1 hour for mood ). But Its dangerous because it releases so many serotoninem, dopamine, noradrenalinem, ofc act as exogenous endorphines and it Can be too much for our brains.
The winner is dihydrocodeine - longer acting, better pain relief...very underrated opioid because in high doses it really resembles hydromorphone.

Sometimes u need to try opioids more than once or twice to catch the feeling. I suggest u to try other opioid. Oxycodone is dissapointing even for me.
If u choose tramadol, never start with equivalent to 20mg Oxy. U need to slowly redose it. Prepare benzos and Don't go over 300mg your first time. Good luck and...being addicted to any of these opioids pain in ass. Sometimes fatal.

 

[daturetard]

*Experienced addict here

Well, oxycodone is not as great as u can hear in news. In terms of getting comfotable with only Oxy, i would need 200mg +. It makes u happy and slightly uplifted in mood first feel times, good for pain, short duration.

I know everybody reacts diffently, but equal doses of morphine were more sedating, better for pain, little bit longer acting.
Equal doses of hydromorphone were something that not even pure heroin Can compares to. Very strong rush, energetic high and perfect for pain. Short acting.
Equal doses od tapendadol were...hallucinogenic, short acting, medium for pain.
Equal doses of codeine Is possible to compare with only very, very low doses od Oxy. But even low codeine doses were nice for pain, very sedating, short acting.
Now, we can compare equal doses of tramadol but u need something against seizures because we are talking about 1000+mg which is 100% seizure without proper anticonvulsant. So, they are much better for pain, they can stop opi WD faster than oxy, it creates state of motivated sedation, u are calm and sedated and suddenly it can provide energy as if it was amphetamine ( maybe because of this IT IS better for pain ). It's also 2x longer acting. But tramadol WD Is on level of hydromorphone and heroin. It's also instant antidepressive (works in 1 hour for mood ). But Its dangerous because it releases so many serotoninem, dopamine, noradrenalinem, ofc act as exogenous endorphines and it Can be too much for our brains.
The winner is dihydrocodeine - longer acting, better pain relief...very underrated opioid because in high doses it really resembles hydromorphone.

Sometimes u need to try opioids more than once or twice to catch the feeling. I suggest u to try other opioid. Oxycodone is dissapointing even for me.
If u choose tramadol, never start with equivalent to 20mg Oxy. U need to slowly redose it. Prepare benzos and Don't go over 300mg your first time. Good luck and...being addicted to any of these opioids pain in ass. Sometimes fatal.

Yeah. I agree with the final sentiment. Another thing though, anybody opioid naïve would more than likely die from 200mg of oxy. I'm guessing you started lower, some folks start with 30mg or something, but most of the time they'll puke even from that, unless their physiology gives them an unusually high tolerance. @sdr look into the threads here about opioid potentiation and or tolerance reduction. They have some good info.

 

[trevic]

I think sometimes it just doesn’t hit you quite right. I do oxy once or twice a week and just last night I did 25mg and snorted another 7 at the peak (I have a tiny tolerance, I’m not recommending that dose if your totally new to it, you’d probably just be sick all night). It was similar to what you said, very sedated, didn’t throw up but had bad nausea, no real euphoria. It was alright but nothing to write home about.

Other times I do it and I love it, get a great background euphoria and feel beautifully content for the night.

I started with 20mg but if your getting bad nausea on that, yeah maybe drop it a little. I’d say if you want to explore it more, leave it for a week or so and try again. I think your headspace when you do it matters to, I don’t find it like heroin for example where if it’s good it’ll blast you into that contentment. I find oxy a bit more gentle.

 

[WellTram]

I think sometimes it just doesn’t hit you quite right. I do oxy once or twice a week and just last night I did 25mg and snorted another 7 at the peak (I have a tiny tolerance, I’m not recommending that dose if your totally new to it, you’d probably just be sick all night). It was similar to what you said, very sedated, didn’t throw up but had bad nausea, no real euphoria. It was alright but nothing to write home about.

Other times I do it and I love it, get a great background euphoria and feel beautifully content for the night.

I started with 20mg but if your getting bad nausea on that, yeah maybe drop it a little. I’d say if you want to explore it more, leave it for a week or so and try again. I think your headspace when you do it matters to, I don’t find it like heroin for example where if it’s good it’ll blast you into that contentment. I find oxy a bit more gentle.

Exactly, i find oxy being the most gentle of many many less and more gentle opioids. Fór example, normal codeine, Is everything but not subtle if u take Hugh dose and u are good in metabolizing it into morphine and other metabolites. Once i took tapentadol and 300mg codeine phosphate and walked my dog. After 40 minutes i had to undress my shirt on street and scratch my skin as if i had severe alergic reaction. But there is still differences between codeine and morphine. Morphine makes me aaah so comfy and few hours later i wake up from sleeping on the floor. Dihydrocodeine is different than both my and in past Görings favourite one. But there is very little information about it. In my experience, high dose Is like hydromorphone oral. Water bong of 96% pure hydromorphone powder is the best. Immediate rush in your body, complimented by anxiolysis, energy and...high as f... Friend worked for Pharma company so we had hundred grams of these powders, even morphine powder and oxy powder but morphine was weak version of hydromorphone and oxy powder was not for me...even smoked it didn't deliver the feelings of morphine, hydromorphone smoked. I just can't understand why they smashed tramadol into market like crazy, but not it's demetylated metabolite instead.

 

[trevic]

Exactly, i find oxy being the most gentle of many many less and more gentle opioids. Fór example, normal codeine, Is everything but not subtle if u take Hugh dose and u are good in metabolizing it into morphine and other metabolites. Once i took tapentadol and 300mg codeine phosphate and walked my dog. After 40 minutes i had to undress my shirt on street and scratch my skin as if i had severe alergic reaction. But there is still differences between codeine and morphine. Morphine makes me aaah so comfy and few hours later i wake up from sleeping on the floor. Dihydrocodeine is different than both my and in past Görings favourite one. But there is very little information about it. In my experience, high dose Is like hydromorphone oral. Water bong of 96% pure hydromorphone powder is the best. Immediate rush in your body, complimented by anxiolysis, energy and...high as f... Friend worked for Pharma company so we had hundred grams of these powders, even morphine powder and oxy powder but morphine was weak version of hydromorphone and oxy powder was not for me...even smoked it didn't deliver the feelings of morphine, hydromorphone smoked. I just can't understand why they smashed tramadol into market like crazy, but not it's demetylated metabolite instead.

I sadly have never been able to do hyromorphone. Never known a dealer selling it here in the UK, even on the dn markets there’s none in the uk. Sucks cause I’ve heard such good things about it.

I agree that codiene can be very strong despite being a “weak” opiate. I used to do 600 - 900 mg (I had a decent tolerance, op should not do these doses) and it hit every time. I laughed at the taking the shirt off thing. I once did a decent bit over a gram and my hands swelled and I was clawing my skin off the itch was so bad. Codeine seems to cause a larger histamine release.

Dihydrocodiene is pretty nice too but I only did it a couple of times so I’m not super well versed on it, can’t really remember the high in detail I just remember liking it. Morphine did nothing to me but I had a big heroin habit at the time and was using it when I had to go a few days between gear. Tramadol didn’t do much even with a low tolerance, made me wonder if some people just can’t convert it well, like some people with codeine.

Damn, writing this is making me want to sub in a different opiate for my oxy occasionally. Maybe some morphine would be nice now I have a very mild to no tolerance.

For the op though: if oxy isn’t getting you there and you still wanna try opiates codeine might be a good choice. It’s on the weaker side for opiates but it honestly gives a very nice high and unlike oxy it always did the job for me, when oxy hits right I do prefer that high though.

 

[sdr]

Yeah. I agree with the final sentiment. Another thing though, anybody opioid naïve would more than likely die from 200mg of oxy. I'm guessing you started lower, some folks start with 30mg or something, but most of the time they'll puke even from that, unless their physiology gives them an unusually high tolerance. @sdr look into the threads here about opioid potentiation and or tolerance reduction. They have some good info.

I did look at some threads and it said promethazine was effective for potentiation, which I have. With zero tolerance and safety in mind, how much oxycodone and promethazine would you recommend for a good experience?

 

[chippermonk]

This is just my opinion, but I would never ruin oxy by taking promethazine with it. Sure, it may get you fucked up, but to me it's a shitty feeling. Promethazine is just a nasty excuse for a high and gave me the most head-splitting hangovers. I used to get a codeine-promethazine cough syrup. It did get me high but I much preferred codeine without it.
Oxycodone by itself is a great high. I would just take less than you took. 20 mg would likely make me puke. Try 5 or 10 max

 

[trevic]

Not the one you were quoting but imo promethazine added to to will just enhance the sedation, which you said you already had heavily. It won't add anymore euphoria to the mix.

In my experience the only thing antihistimines (though I know promethazine is a weird one that isn't just an antihistimine) are good for combined with opiates is lessening the itch (and personally I haven't even had much luck with that).

If your looking to nod, sure it'll potentiate it. But it sounds like you got the sedation and want the euphoria, ime it won't do anything to help with that.

Milage may vary though.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I did look at some threads and it said promethazine was effective for potentiation, which I have. With zero tolerance and safety in mind, how much oxycodone and promethazine would you recommend for a good experience?

can't help you with your question as have naver taken promethazine, also only skimmed the thread so forgive if already addressed...

but...

your opiate experience sounds just like the times I have sat with people smoking herb/hash for first time - the noobs felt nothing, while the experienced people were wasted. The noobs were wasted too, but were unaware - this is a well documented phenomena

am not saying this is definitely you in this scenario, but sometimes with drugs you gotta get a feel for the drug before it really hits....almost like you gotta know what you're looking out for in a way

also, opiates are kinda subtle drugs, at first anyway, oxycodone at first particularly slow as it doesn't produce the easily-noticable sedation that most other opies do

reality is friend - you're playing with fire, playing a dangerous game for sure. if/when it does really hit and you like it a lot, well that could get very problematic real soon

I'd forget about potentiating a notoriously potent substance while you're still in nappies, opiate-wise. It's also possible that opiates just aren't your thing - which 95% minimum of the opiate addicts who frequent these very forums would say is a very lucky thing indeed - go figure.

And, welcome to BL, be well mate

 

[daturetard]

I did look at some threads and it said promethazine was effective for potentiation, which I have. With zero tolerance and safety in mind

50mg of promethazine in 2 separate doses is how I do it.
Id recomend 25 at the start, 25 well into it. I'd start with 10mg oxy with the first dose of 25mg promethazine. The. Maybe another 5mg with the 2nd.
Dxm, agmatine, blackseed oil, DLPA, and especially ULDN can be great potentiators.

 

[sdr]

can't help you with your question as have naver taken promethazine, also only skimmed the thread so forgive if already addressed...

but...

your opiate experience sounds just like the times I have sat with people smoking herb/hash for first time - the noobs felt nothing, while the experienced people were wasted. The noobs were wasted too, but were unaware - this is a well documented phenomena

am not saying this is definitely you in this scenario, but sometimes with drugs you gotta get a feel for the drug before it really hits....almost like you gotta know what you're looking out for in a way

also, opiates are kinda subtle drugs, at first anyway, oxycodone at first particularly slow as it doesn't produce the easily-noticable sedation that most other opies do

reality is friend - you're playing with fire, playing a dangerous game for sure. if/when it does really hit and you like it a lot, well that could get very problematic real soon

I'd forget about potentiating a notoriously potent substance while you're still in nappies, opiate-wise. It's also possible that opiates just aren't your thing - which 95% minimum of the opiate addicts who frequent these very forums would say is a very lucky thing indeed - go figure.

And, welcome to BL, be well mate

Sounds good. Thanks for the advice

 

[sdr]

I think sometimes it just doesn’t hit you quite right. I do oxy once or twice a week and just last night I did 25mg and snorted another 7 at the peak (I have a tiny tolerance, I’m not recommending that dose if your totally new to it, you’d probably just be sick all night). It was similar to what you said, very sedated, didn’t throw up but had bad nausea, no real euphoria. It was alright but nothing to write home about.

Other times I do it and I love it, get a great background euphoria and feel beautifully content for the night.

I started with 20mg but if your getting bad nausea on that, yeah maybe drop it a little. I’d say if you want to explore it more, leave it for a week or so and try again. I think your headspace when you do it matters to, I don’t find it like heroin for example where if it’s good it’ll blast you into that contentment. I find oxy a bit more gentle.

You mentioned insufflation… does that lead to better results? What do you crush it with?