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Stimulants stimulant maintenance course/replacement therapy

foolsgold

foolsgold

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right i am about burned out if i admit it been using stims/drugs for the last 22 years and of late been becoming more and more unhinged with the abuse
and was wondering how to go about getting help now im not asking as to what drugs to ask for to get high but real help with this and before people start with its all in the mind its not there is a lot more to stimulant abuse than that .

so what sort of things should i be bring up when i go .

i've had a problem in the past as being palmed off as drug seeking which has not helped at all with things i don't need to go see drug counselor i found talking does not help just brings up things that caused my bad reactions in the first place .

sorry if this is vague and badly worded thats one of the problems my mind is like mud these days :)

cheers in advance people

p.s im going to bed now so will reply in the morning :)
 
good question
Do they offer stimulant maintenance, like they do with opiates(opioid replacement therapy)?

I've only heard of it in theoretical terms.

I can logically guess that some people in the same situation, may also have ADD issues, and that could address both issues. However, am not sure about the success rate of taking the prescribed dosage and not binging.

good luck
 
Not sure what you mean as to "stimulant maintenance".. but if you're asking what to say to lie to the doctor in order to get prescribed certain meds, we can't help you with that as it's against BL rules.
 
i think it depends where you live... i think stimulant maintenance is unheard of here in the US and the mention of same will probably get you a lot of odd looks from doctors. from what i understand, though, the idea is taking off in canada and maybe some european countries so if you live in one of those locales you may want to check in with your local harm reduction folks (clinic, needle exchange, whatever) and ask about it. nevertheless, it might be more at the stage where if you're lucky, you'll have the chance to participate in a study or something, rather than generally accepted practice.
 
Isn't stimulant maintenance the same as ADD/Treatment. I think there is a correlation to say at the least between attention deficit disorders and stimulant (ab)use.


Basically just tell the doc you can't get organized/motivated (that wouldn't be lying right?)
 
cheer and no im not asking what to tell the doctor to get meds to get high with i really need help here just look at my intake of chemicals in some of the post basically im killing myself and just getting fobbed off with shit like its all in my head and im drug seeking christ i've been using almost daily for the last 8 years and at least 2 to 3 weeks out every month for the last 22 years its almost impossible to think of time when i am not on anything
 
Nothing is impossible.

What you simply need to do is tell the doctor the entire truth. They will decide what's best for you.
 
im also think a new doctor could be a good idea as i've had problems like i've said with this one before but then even that could work against me . its a shame we are not treated like other drug addicts i.e. heroin cocaine and crack how its seen as our own fault and stopping is just a matter of willpower
 
I feel ya.

Different doctors have different opinions on the matter. You must understand though that its drilled into their heads to "do no harm". Most do care, and try to help, whether by theorizing that the best course of action is to give the addict their drug or completely cut them off.

Please ask a doctor about starting treatment with either Abilify (Aripiprazole) or Welbutrin (Bupropion).
 
cheers ho-chi-minh thats the sort of thing im asking for im not after something to get high with im sort of sick of it now i just want something to help with the everyday crap of craving and the fact i've become dependent on them to function in the real world
 
The only medications i possibly can see a doctor giving you for ur stimulant addiction is a non-stimulant, like Strattera or wellbutrin(it curves cocaine/stim cravings, along with nicotine). You will not be given any type of addictive stimulant for an attempted "stimulant maintenance program", because there is none. Now maintenance for opiates is different, because methadone for example is long acting, and will create blockage when you try to get high on opiates, and after steady methadone maintenance you won't get high on it everyday, you wont even feel a buzz, maybe anti-depressant qualities, but thats it. as for suboxone doctors are advocates for it because it will occupy all your opiate receptors, so if you use an opiate, nothing will happen cause it cant fill the receptors, and if you use opiates, then suboxone u will get deahtly sick, which is a deterrent for addicts to avoid using. unfortunately there is no stimulant out there (that i know of) that has unique qualities for stimulant addction. Wellbutrin will help and be my best guess that a doctor will give you, or straterra, and possibly effexor
 
thats the thing i really don't want something to get high with im getting old and this is getting the better of me these days im burned out my minds about shot just want something that kills the need to self medicate just so that i can get out of bed on a morning
 
BingeBoy said:
Isn't stimulant maintenance the same as ADD/Treatment. I think there is a correlation to say at the least between attention deficit disorders and stimulant (ab)use.


Basically just tell the doc you can't get organized/motivated (that wouldn't be lying right?)
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This is great advice. If he had to use stimulants for the past 22 years without screwing up it means he took them responsibly and probably has ADHD. If the OP took them to get high he would not have made it 22 years...the physical strain/financial aspect of it would have worn him off probably. To me it looks like he self-medicated.

I wouldn't bother quitting...after so much time the brain wired around it, doubt it still remembers how to function without.

Also, please talk to a priest to confess your drug abuse and forgive your sins. The doctor is not your friend, he doesn't pardon you and he must not find out about your abuse under any circumstance. Just state your symptoms, have him run some tests and given the brain fog/mud you describe, youll get your prescription in no time. It doesn't matter if you think that those symptoms are caused by withdrawal or past drug use, in the end, it doesn't matter. You got a health problem and the doctor is there to fix it. If you tell him you took drugs, he is no longer responsible to fix you. Make it his responsibility, don't tell.
 
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thanks for the informative and funny reply :)

this is how bad my brain is i've been convinced that its july not june i just had an argument that its august next week and why ain't it a bank holiday lol

Ksa said:
This is great advice. If he had to use stimulants for the past 22 years without screwing up it means he took them responsibly and probably has ADHD. If the OP took them to get high he would not have made it 22 years...the physical strain/financial aspect of it would have worn him off probably. To me it looks like he self-medicated.

I wouldn't bother quitting...after so much time the brain wired around it, doubt it still remembers how to function without.
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ive just read this one i used them at first to get high then it was to work on then it was back to getting high and yes its been 22 years of abuse fuck knows how im still here of course there are gaps in the abuse were i change my substance but the last 8 or 9 its been an almost constant abuse weekly with only a few days for sleep and food .

i am what you would call an exception to the rule in most cases and stims is one of them i can take stupid amounts and no problems . but your right its self medicating these days just to feel normal .

i have to quit i need a job that i can stick at i m sick of it constantly praying on my mind as to how and when im going to get my next fix plus well my mental health is faltering big time the suicidal shit this year has just about pushed me over the edge ive been very close to killing myself a few times this year all ready

p.s its the fact it was so cheap thats the main problem *snip - no prices* a week is no problem to go through
 
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^ Seeking your next fix is normal, nothing wrong with it. The fat 300lb ladies craving their next Big Mac and IKEA furniture set are doing the exact same thing...they are obese as fuck and can't stop for shit. I need to know what stimulants you took and the amount. There's surely another dopamine pathway.
 
christ thats a hard one ive done most but coke my speed habit got up to doing half an oz to an oz of paste from that i found ivory wave ultra about a year before the ban so that could've been mdpv or anything whatever it was i've not touched speed since then because i went from that to 4g of ivory wave ultra then it was 2-dpmp and the likes ranging from 4 to 6 g a binge now its 5g ago of mpa or eph tried 3,4,cptm which i've not made my mine up with yet only dabbled with that so far but madely a cock up a few weeks back and really believe it not snorted 250mg up in a couple of lines as i mixed it up while on benzo with my eph fuck knows how i survived that one i think the other drugs sort of blocked each other out that time and now im back to mdpv like i've said and you will see look at my posts its 4 to 5 days a week on something with the odd break for a swap to noids . plus i've been using a marketplace where people give out samples for reviews and getting ket mdma and meph so basically its a constant flow of drugs .

hate posting in here at times because it sounds like boosting like i've said at times i can not just get a gram of something as it just makes me ill im hooked on the psychosis and sleep dep

here is an example christmas i went through 25 g in 2 weeks of mpa because it was not doing anything and so cheap
 
The good news is you've done weak stimulants so far. ADHD medication is very strong compared to what you're taking. The doctor will likely prescribe you Dexedrine for your ADHD which will put to shame everything you have taken so far. I remember the night before an exam, I was exhausted at 2am, had a pulsating migraine and codeine had trouble releiving the pain, 4 hours after the migraine was back, so, I took 20mg IR Dexedrine and 50 minutes later the migraine was gone, I was awake as in my best of days and aced the exam hours after. It just burned off the migraine completely. It's so insanely strong it wakes you from the dead.

Remember that with greater potency comes greater responsability. Suicide is a stupid thought man, there's so much ahead of you.
 
weak stims 2-dpmp 3,4,cmtp and mdpv are not weak stims man fucking hell lol :) but thank you for you help it makes a change not to be looked at in here like some kind of troll or freak bragging about how much he has done

p.s i can get a supply of ritalin powder but then i guess im still just playing with fire ? anyway time to hit the hay before the voices kick in again tonight so night and thanks once again :) you're being very help :)
 
foolsgold said:
weak stims 2-dpmp 3,4,cmtp and mdpv are not weak stims man fucking hell lol :) but thank you for you help it makes a change not to be looked at in here like some kind of troll or freak bragging about how much he has done

p.s i can get a supply of ritalin powder but then i guess im still just playing with fire ? anyway time to hit the hay before the voices kick in again tonight so night and thanks once again :) you're being very help :)
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Hey man, just want to tell you good luck with all this. Though the guy ksa had some good advice, you DON'T need stimulants to survive or function normally. While true it may take years to function normally why not start now?

I know the feeling on being sleepy right after you wake up and not interested in anything... and guess what I'm 20 and have never abused stims. I feel this way every day. Wanting to feel different doesn't mean there's something wrong with your brain, this is something that lots of people go through. I just use opioids instead of stimulants to wake me up, same thing though really.

I just think you don't need any more stims from the doctor or not.
 
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