Misc [stims] What is the best stim for use in social situations.

[BluLait]

So I've been looking for a drug that I can take at school so it will help me focus/be more sociable/shit like that.

So far I've been to school on a 40-50 mg dose of MDMA, it was fucking amazing, I felt like people describe cocaine to be, only more mellow, and it peaked for 2 hours. I was focused, happy, very talkative, smarter, faster, centre of attention. I wasn't rolling per se, there was no overwhelming euphoria or empathy, just a very nice feeling of well-being, self-confidence, etc. I was in complete-control. I had that "king of the world, nothing can stop me, i can do anything I set my mind to" feeling - I loved it. Music also sounded a lot better too. I had a lot more energy, words just came out of my mouth without thinking about it, but I managed to say exactly the right stuff in every situation, as I said: centre of attention.

But of course, I can't use MDMA too often, and when I do use it (once every 1-2 months, I'd much rather take 150 mg at a rave and ROLL BALLS).

I've tried ethylphenidate.... But... Maybe the dose was too small or something, because this is what I experienced: The euphoria was really not what I've been looking for. It's a "sit in your chair and look at the ceiling while basking in pleasure" type of rush, and the stimulation can get very annoying and isn't helpful at all. It is better than nothing but still it's not what I need. Suffice to say, I don't think it's good for such purposes as having an edge in school/society.

What else would there be? Cocaine is perfect, but I don't have that kinda money lmao.

Would proper speed(amphetamine suplhate, 50-80% ) do the trick ? I've done that a couple of times but again, the dosages weren't very high and I couldn't tell exactly what was up with it.

Feel free to suggest any RC/illegal drug out there that will do the trick for me.
I forgot the title was about stims, scratch that anyway.

 

[Albion]

I'm surprised a 20-50mg dose of MDMA was enjoyable for you. If I dose too low I just feel sleepy. It isn't really euphoric for me at all.

As ever with these things YMMV, so take anything people say with a pinch of salt. Straight up stimulants would be your best choice. Methylphenidate is probably ideal. Although I have to stress that deciding to take stimulants to better your school life will lead to a reliability on said stimulants, and eventually a dependence. Don't go down this road unless you actually need to.

 

[Opiates4lyfe]

Probably just not a good idea to take it unless you REALLLLY need to. Like ^he said.

 

[OTGee]

Yeah like they said, I wouldn't reccomend using stimulants regularily for this situation. Maybe once or twice but you will become dependant/addicted to them and things will go down from there.
Maybe try Ritalin? If your looking for something a bit softer that you could use regularily? That helped me focus at school and talk to people easier.
Are you talking about using daily or just once in a blue moon?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Not MDPV...

I'd have to agree w/ Pete tho, Methylphenidate would be my choice. Then again, I'd take almost any racetam over any amp-like stim for work/school any day. For play, well that's another matter altogether Cause then I'd rather just take an opioid.

 

[snazzy_sn]

It's not a stim really, but low dose DXM completely changed me socially when I was in highschool. Of course a lot of bad things came with it. Crystal Meth is the most sociably helpful drug but it goes both ways. Coming down makes me introverted and paranoid and weird...

My experiences with low dose DXM were very helpful, even after I was high. It kind of has a stimulating effect, low doses made me a lot less inhibited and a lot more motivated to interact and much less serious.

I know people are probably going to resent me saying this, but this sounds like a legitimate "better living through chemistry" situation as long as you can find what you're looking for and control yourself.
However it wound up biting me in the ass in the end. I started doing too much and everyday and embarassed myself a lot. I became notorious for always being fucked up and yeah....

But I mean take me for instance. I'm high right now on stimulants, and it's making me feel a lot more sociable but I'm not really making much sense am I?

 

[Treefa]

Man idk im similar to you, not very social like at school and shit except with friends, ive taken alot of drugs at or before school too;weed(almost daily), opiates(doesnt matter what), benzoes, amphetamines...the list goes on..

Now, my personal favorite for otherwise unpleasant events would be 1.)opiates 2.)weed 3.)benzos..i fucking hate uppers(even though i have an adderall script)

Idk why but for me, downers are the way to go..uppers give me too much anxiety/paranoia esp. in social situations..
What ive noticed;
1.Opiates- give you an overall pleasant feeling, helps you feel more comfortable although if someone makes me mad, they probably gonna make me MAD
2.Weed- if you dont already know, this one is kind of on the fence..time passes SlOWER when there is nothing going on(class) and when it wears off 1-2 hours later i usually get tired/head or backache(my body telling me to Smoke more weed ha) but its my D.O.C due to availability/price..Mary jane ill smoke you anywhere baby
3.Benzoes - last but not least..At one time in my teen years i tried xanax, lorazepam, temazepam, all kinds of benzoes and didnt care for them( prolly cuz i was too stoned to notice their effects) BUT Benzos are GREAT for MAKING TIME FLY...and loosening you up...they are now my 3rd favorite drugs haha

Anyway hope i helped O.P. and remember to stay safe inschool...im graduating in about a month but them polices be bringin the drug dogs through where i live so remember NEVER BRING DRUGS TO SCHOOL YOU CANT SWALLOW(PILLS) Dont O.D.

 

[PlurPsyed]

Adderall. Always makes school and work fun. Just be careful, it's ridiculously addictive and it's really difficult to stop yourself from compulsively redosing

 

[magicegg]

Honestly, I'm probably going to be laughed out of the thread for this, but my answer would be none at all. If you have problems being sociable, you should try to focus on the cause of your social anxiety, or whatever your issue is, not take drugs to overcome it. If being high makes you more relaxed around people and allows you to make friends more easily, and to be the "centre of attention" (presumably in a positive sense), how are you going to maintain that when you come in the next day and appear to be a different person? Even if taking certain drugs simply lowers your inhibitions in order allows the more positive aspects of your personality to shine, if you aren't comfortable enough around people when sober, it's not going to help.

Don't get me wrong, many drugs are great for social situations, but you shouldn't get yourself into the habit of 'needing' to take things for whatever reason, if you can help it. Start doing something new to meet people and boost your confidence. Gain some new skills, be an interesting person and that will give you an edge! Save your stimulants for raves/evenings with friends.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Actually I couldn't agree more (even if you cheated in your response )!!! And these days I'd take a real, meaningful relationship (in even the most basic sense of the word) over any drug, or any high, in the entire world. This coming from a junkie, who would'a thunk it Even that social lube alcohol, I'd rather (short of special occasions maybe) have a conversation with out a beer (well, at least more often than not) or being buzzed than with one. I mean, assuming I'm into what the other person all about or the topic of conversation, I generally like to have that constitute the center of my intention, and I have a hard time doing that under the influence of any drugs (this even applies to my suboxone - I don't really like to socialize for the first hour or two after I dose cause it kind of fucks me up... haha, not that I really mind tho...).

 

[PlurPsyed]

I concur^ getting to the root of your problem is advisable before fucking with stims. They're great and vie done my fair share but it's all too easy to abuse them when you're using them to make a shitty situation good rather than enhance a situation you already find enjoyable. You'll feel fucking wonderful, situations that you previously hated will become the most interesting thing in the world, you'll feel like you can take on he world. But then they'll wear off and not only will the problem still be there, it will be amplified by 100. You'll likely finding yourself hating the world and wanting to choke the living shit out of those around you and unless you have a high level of discipline and a very strong mindset, you will find yourself itching to redose. Stims are just a (potentially dangerous) temporary fix.

 

[BluLait]

Holy shit!

To everyone: I'm not talking about daily use.
I just take it at exams, or when I have a lot of classes and I feel sleepy and detached and groggy after not sleeping for 48 hours studying, etc. - that kinda shit. Most mornings a good shower and breakfast is all I need to get me going smoothly throughout the day, and because I like the way things are, I'm going to be careful not to abuse anything, I've learned to respect drugs after a few bad experiences.

But sometimes.... just sometimes, shit just needs to be kicked up a to eleven

When did this turn into a "social anxiety/bullshit" thread? I specifically posted this on Other Drugs so I could get advice about finding good things. So keep stuff on-topic please.

I guess I'll give speed a try when I get the chance.

 

[Jabberwocky]

BTW, OP, I'd totally take a couple grams of piracetam every day for at least a month prior to the exam (continuing using it through and if I chose past the exam period) OVER just taking a stim or two only during exam time. Some coffee and racetam does waaaaaaaay more for me in terms of cognitive performance and memory recall than any stim has ever even begun to. Honestly, when I was in uni the only thing I found stims useful for academically speaking was all-nighters (and in the case of my thesis, all-weekers... ).

 

[ErgicMergic]

Kratom is a very sociable drug. Just enough opioid action to make the stimulation relaxed, and not narcotic enough that you'll be nodding. It also provides clean stimulation, not jittery like caffeine/ephedrine and not socially inhibiting like a large dose of amphetamine/Dexedrine. It feels so natural, and some actually experience empathy on it, like on a light dose of MDMA.

 

[Buiscuitvader]

For me a low dose of opiate for the opiate naive individual was great. I'm a very anxious person naturally and a 15mg roxi before school had me focused and could think of what i wanted to clearly (no nodding at that dose at all, for me at least).

but yeah as far as stims i'd say adderall/dexedrine, i've always found them more positive all around. Methylphendidate gives me focus, but like i crawl outta my skin and
get pretty anxious, amphetamines don't do this to me until i'm coming down.

 

[PlurPsyed]

Sorry, didn't mean to be preachy. It's just something I have all too much experience with. It's highly enjoyable (one of the best feelings in the world in my opinion) but it's also really hard to control your intake when you're on it. Just please keep that in mind if and when you take it and don't have a surplus on you. Have only what you are planning to take cause otherwise, its all too tempting to take more.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yea, back in the day opioids had me focused and really into what I was doing, say at school. But then again, look where my interest in and use of opioids has lead me to today...

Kratom I agree is a nice stim/opioid kind of middle ground, I totally agree, but the push to use too much too often always fucked me over in the end.

 

[Buiscuitvader]

I agree with you entirely, I've always preferred opiates>anything. But for some people amps can be more addicting than dope, depends what ya like.

 

[MrFister]

Hell I find low dose mxe helps a hell of a lot with social situations. I always feel very flowy and engaged in the people i'm with.

I'm going to second adderall though, that is if you don't have social anxiety . If you're naturally decent with people, then on a classic stim like amphetamine you're going to be an unstoppable jaw clenching story telling beast. I love taking it when i'm with one other person, even if they're not stimmed out. Feels like I can reaaaaalllly get to know them and vice versa. Sex is quite a good pay off too sometimes .

Stay the fuuuuuuuck away from mdpv, bad times here for a few months.

 

[PlurPsyed]

I agree with you entirely, I've always preferred opiates>anything. But for some people amps can be more addicting than dope, depends what ya like.

I dunno, I've always considered opiates to he more of a lazy drug, like "everything is going to shit? Who the fuck cares, I'm good" where are amphetamines are like "everything is going to shit? Well let me fix it. Now let me make it better. NOW LETS MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD BETTER". Until, of course, it wears off, then it's like "now let me go off and fucking strangle everything I just fixed"