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Steroids/PED's & baseball...do you really care?

If they really wanted to enforce the ban, they'd test everyone after every game. The problem is that steroid use equals more home runs which means more revenue. Players who don't want to subject themselves to the risks of steroid use shouldn't have to just in order to stay competitive with those who do.
 
If they wanted home runs couldn't they just allow cork bats or change the ball?

What happens when cybotronics give the cripples super human strength? Won't the cripple league become more exciting and attract the crowds without the mothers association worrying about the children?


I say let em 'roid.
 
Busty St Clare said:
If they wanted home runs couldn't they just allow cork bats or change the ball?
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Ref. Sammy Sosa. He did both; corked bat and juice. But remember, he 'accidentially' grabbed his batting practice bat during the game :\ Hahah bullshit







I loved the whole "I no speak English very good" excuse he threw out in the '05 hearings. Him and Bonds are real jackasses
 
Busty St Clare said:
If they wanted home runs couldn't they just allow cork bats or change the ball?

What happens when cybotronics give the cripples super human strength? Won't the cripple league become more exciting and attract the crowds without the mothers association worrying about the children?


I say let em 'roid.
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Cybotronics don't come with inherent health risks (that we know of). I guess it comes down to personal philosophy as to what is and isn't acceptable.
 
Id much rather see chemically enhanced athletes for all events. Even if the olympics is the testing grounds for new undetectable UG substances I'd love to see the athletes use whatever they could get their hands on and whatever they can do to their bodies to improve their times. Imagine a 100m sprinter- testosterone, winstrol, HGH, EPO, speed- thats a race i'd be interested to watch.

Wonder what they are feeding those Jamicans....
 
KStoner6tb said:
Growth hormones beginning at age 9
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+var +an AI until the age of 16...

But seriously there must be some crazy stuff out there- a new BALCO...

Plus Im guessing things that are hard to pick up during off season (amphetimines during training for more intense sessions, etc)
 
I do care but because most of the dopers names being realeased are Boston Red Sux and New York Yankasses, ESPN, MLB, the media are not going to do anything much about it. Sure they might suspend someone for a bit but the only justice that would be fair would be to take some of the championships away from those teams. See the way it is for any other sport, if you get caught cheating they take away any awards you might have one. In the olympics if they find out you took roids they take away your gold meda. In college sports if they find out you paid players or did some no no's recruiting they take away your banners (see michigan fab 5). And even though paying players won't actually make them perform better, they still take away the accomplishments. Yet for some reason MLB doesn't follow the same way.

I'm sure the fact that Boston and NY have big payrolls and bigh followings and are just Boston and NY has something to do with it.

So yes I care but I know that nothing will really be done about it.
 
Bump due to this topic being one of, if not THE biggest stories out right now.

So so I care about PED's being used in baseball? Years ago when it was Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Jose Canseco, and some others that used steroids, it was so obvious that they were 'Juicing' that everybody knew they were, so their reputations were tarnished. Now it's not so obvious, and without positive drug test results or people coming forward to 'out' these players, many of them would have slipped under the radar since they don't all have huge muscles like McGwire and co.

Since I'm a Yankees fan I have to care about this now since A-Rod is smack-dab in the middle of this whole Biogenesis scandal. I think that any team should be allowed to cut a player without having to pay their salary if he was found to have been using PED's around the time of their contact signing. The way that I look at it is that if a player was offered a contract based on their performance which was later found to have been the result of using PED's, then it's not fair for the team to be stuck with the contact once the player returns from their suspension or what have you.

I think it's extremely important to have as even of a playing field as possible, so therefore I care about steroids and other PED's being used by athletes.
 
The only way there will ever be an even playing field is if steroids are allowed in baseball. Until then there will always be people using them and not getting caught, while the enforcers try to develop new methods to catch the cheaters.
 
People saying that PEDs should be permitted across all sports and substances are like sick fans of some dystopian future who salivate over seeing more impressive highlight reels as they grunt with disgusting pleasure from their sofa cushions like hogs being poured another bucket of supper.

*ahem*



L2R said:
fuck roids.

you can't allow juicers such success, for then you open it up so that only juicers would have a chance, and with the amounts of money behind these popular sports, this will inevitably lead to many destroyed lives.

i have no problem with people who choose to juice (for whatever reason), but when it becomes a requirement in such big business, it crosses the line since the choice is removed. sure you can say no, but that would also saying no to a chance of success in your choice of career, your dream, etc. This is no choice at all at the ages these athletes start their training.

it's inhumane to force people to mess with their hormones for such a thing (entertainment).
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This. In the realm of financially compensated competition, permission of chemicals that bring significant performance enhancement equals a mandate for the use of these chemicals. You either get on the juice box or you become marginalized into decency at best and obscurity more often than not.

Also don't forget junior leagues. As a parent, how willing are you going to be to let Billy play little league if you know that his role models will be running, swinging and throwing advertisements for a culture of substance abuse? Do these substances become permitted in youth leagues or do you have to wait until you turn twenty-one to celebrate by being bought an innumerable amount of drinks and getting your first legal injection of stanozolol?

This is not to say that the topic is not without it's debatable points. Foremost in my mind is the question of chemical use as general daily performance enhancement versus being used to treat or help heal an injury. While obviously not supporting the former, I can find significant merit in my admittedly limited knowledge of the latter in application.

I for one am of the mind that athletics are entertaining enough without the need to further turn locker rooms into the madhouse laboratories of human experimentation and mandatory chemical enhancement.


Tl;dr:

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batmanplaybaseball said:
People saying that PEDs should be permitted across all sports and substances are like sick fans of some dystopian future who salivate over seeing more impressive highlight reels as they grunt with disgusting pleasure from their sofa cushions like hogs being poured another bucket of supper.
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Yea, we should regulate what people put into their own bodies to mold society to our own ideals, that works so well!
 
Personally edited for exaggerated emphasis on the quality of my own opinion regarding a complicated issue.
 
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