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"Stealing" My Neighbor's Wireless Internet Connection

As far as I'm aware, there are no clear cut laws on wi-fi/wireless internet leeching. It ends up being a question of morality and safety/security. If you do end up using your neighbour's network, I would strongly advise against doing any personal online banking or any other "secure" transactions. Don't waste their bandwidth either for downloading shitloads of stuff. That then becomes a liability which push comes to shove you may end up having to pay for. Exactly who is leeching your bandwidth is quite easy to track down for the ISP.
 
...Also, if they have a halfway decent security system that has real time protection. They would know the moment when you connect onto their system and can see what you are doing

So, i dunno what to tell ya. All i do know is that i doubt Myspace deleted your page because your name is GoddessLSD-xtc-Cubensis". I have a video right in the middle of my Myspace profile of a step by step guide to making hashish and i have had it up for a while now. Also, i am a member of the myspace group named" I Love Meth and It Loves Me". So if those things are allowed then i doubt you got deleted because LSD and XTC are in your name.

The more reasonable answer for your Myspace page being deleted is because it was phished by some spammer. If you go on the website and look at the FAQ section, there is a whole section on how to remedy this and how to get your Myspace page back.

Also, if they did delete your Myspace, they would know it is you, who is stealing their signal, from the pictures of yourself on the page. Then they probably would have come to your house to confront you about it. So i doubt they know about you stealing their signal and i doubt they deleted your Myspace page.
 
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^^Yeah what the fuck are you talking about TALLY.

The only reason I concider it stealing is because you are actually taking up bandwidth, which causes their internet connection to be slower.
 
Yeah youre right because they arent on the same computer with the key logger progam loaded. Fuck...i dont know what the fuck i was thinking. i guess im tweeking harder than i thought.8o

I guess my mind's playin tricks on me and it wasnt even close to Halloween.
 
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It's not just about speed. Many have to pay for bandwidth over a certain pre-assigned limit. Grey area or not, when your use of an unsecured network turns from casual browsing to blatant abuse resulting in expenses, you're going to have some 'splainin to do, Lucy. More than likely, that 'splainin will involve money out of your pocket.
 
so wait. how can you tell if a neighbor is using yours? like if the situation was reversed? I don't want no leaches near me.


and is this something the poster had to try to do, or did it just happen? cuz if it's something that just happens, I don't think I'd make much effort to change things. just like if I turned on my tv one day and found that I was getting a bunch of satellite channels I wasn't paying for.
 
If I understand correctly, some people leave their connections open because they don't mind others using their bandwidth.

A possible solution would be for Goddess to point out to her neighbours that their connection was open, and ask if they minded her using their bandwidth. That way, if they said yes, she wouldn't have to worry about whether she was stealing.
 
Technically, yes, you are in fact stealing their service. There is no way of getting around that fact. It's obviously up to you to decide whether or not it is an ethically acceptable thing to do.

Having said that, if they don't know how to password protect their connection I strongly doubt they would be using keylogs or monitoring their network activity. Given their technical ineptitude it's also very likely they won't miss the bandwidth as I doubt they are 'hardcore' internet users. I would imagine they have set up the connection to use e-mail, basic web-browsing and the occasional download.
 
vibr8tor said:
so wait. how can you tell if a neighbor is using yours?
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Turn off computer and watch router for blinking lights.

Old school router-fu.
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=D
 
forgotten said:
A keylogger can't be used in the scenario mentioned.
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Anything can be used through a network, as there is always a vulnerability to exploit.
 
9mmCensor said:
Anything can be used through a network, as there is always a vulnerability to exploit.
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A keylogger can't be installed on a client that is merely connected to a network. Your logic is riding on variables that may or may not be present.
 
forgotten said:
A keylogger can't be installed on a client that is merely connected to a network. Your logic is riding on variables that may or may not be present.
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QFT.
 
forgotten said:
A keylogger can't be installed on a client that is merely connected to a network. Your logic is riding on variables that may or may not be present.
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No, its going to require the doing of someone skilled, but its doable, and thus is a potential breach in security that one should consider.

My logic flows in the direction that, it can be done, thus one who is concerned about their security must be vigilant for such a breach in ones defenses.
 
atlas said:
....why would you be worried about a key logger when a packet logger is both infinitely easier to install, and just as damaging?

perhaps you'd like to save face? ;)
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Because monitoring packets only provides information about what is being sent over the network. There is much more information such as text files being written, etc., that are not sent via the network.
 
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