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State Sovereignty-Good bye Federal Gov, Hello Marijuana

FrostyMcFailure

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" 20 states have passed or proposed resolutions to maintain the 10th Amendment which asserts states' rights not expressly delegated to the federal government. Specifically, the US govt. had become intrusive to individual states in their policies on such issues as medical marijuana, home schooling, and gun control."

Initially after hearing this i couldnt believe it but after a little search it does seem this is the case; What are your thoughts?


by Kurt Nimmo, PrisonPlanet.com

Back in December, the Wall Street Journal had a good chuckle over Russian academic Igor Panarin’s prediction that the United States would break apart by 2010. Using threadbare Cold War logic, Andrew Osborn wrote that Panarin’s forecast “is music to the ears of the Kremlin, which in recent years has blamed Washington for everything from instability in the Middle East to the global financial crisis.”

For the WSL scribe, Panarin’s analysis is about the Red Bear “returning to its rightful place on the world stage after the weakness of the 1990s, when many feared that the country would go economically and politically bankrupt and break into separate territories.”

In fact, it was not so much “weakness” that destroyed Russia as it was the IMF, the World Bank, and Wall Street, in other words it was another bankster looting and fire sale scheme that brought the former Soviet Union down, not that we should expect the Wall Street Journal to admit as much. Ditto the current “global financial crisis” and instability in the Middle East.

“Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar,” Osborn summarizes. “Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.”

In the case of a growing number of U.S. states, however, it is not so much economic decline and moral degradation pointing the way to a “disintegration,” but rather violations of the Tenth Amendment. The Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791, and states restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states and to the people. It is based on an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”

Although Fox News and CNN are not telling you about it, a growing number of states are declaring sovereignty. Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures.

For details on the particular bills and resolutions introduced by the above states, check out the following:

Washington

New Hampshire


Arizona

Montana

Michigan

Missouri

Oklahoma

California

Georgia
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I don't think that a declaration of state sovereignty is likely to change the position of cannabis in legislation except in the case of California. This is more likely a preemptive measure against the Obama administration, as they are likely to attempt to further reduce state rights. Regaurdless, the federal government is unlikely to recognise the legitimacy of such a declaration, and unless people are willing to take up arms and face the second civil war that is predicted in the above article these interesting little bits of legislation are likely to be forgotten.
 
State sovereignty doesn't exist in the United States. Although the States themselves have certain sovereign powers, the sovereign power in the US is the People, who in turn vest their powers in the states. Hence, We the People in the Constitution. The Articles of Confederation failed, which is why we adhere to the Constitution today. Although they were never technically dissembled, that's a completely nil point cooked up by some politicians who are looking for a loophole. While it is true that the 10th Amendment arose out of a provision of the Articles of Confederation that recognized the sovereignty of the states, the Constitution itself does not grant sovereignty to the states and if these declarations were to be challenged in a Federal court, they would fail miserably.

So your conclusion is that the people are the sovereign power, but we grant our sovereignty to the states, who are ruled over by the federal government who does not give a fuck what anyone thinks? That doesn't sound quite right. I think you need to check your facts, bud.
 
This may be the source i think- it has some state reps or suttin speak on air on the issue, its looking like scary times but its legit where as manys sheep attempt 2 dismiss reality as a conspiracy. They talk about marijuana partially & feds "backing off" & a message went to Barrack Obama.
Theirs a few parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPS9ZNqNW90
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnW8GV0uMrI


start here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdab21uOy0E
if you want to get to the goods- part3.

pt1-2 for intro.
Many cool state reps talk on air on the program. State rep washington matt talks about states needing to stop accepting federal money due to strings attached & the globalist intrusion, devaluing our currency at an alarming fate.

+ many more find them yourself but strap on that diaper for feds sold out to foreign banks.
 
If state sovereignty was given to the people because the states could refuse to pay tax, why don't the people have the same right? If the people are the sovereign power, how can we be taxed and governed by a federal regime? This still doesn't sound quite right somehow.
 
If the Federal Government was sovereign, the unalienable rights guaranteed by the Constitution would be a privilege granted by the government, to be taken back at will. Furthermore, any and all legislation regarding states could be dictated by the Federal Government.

This sounds to me like an accurate portrayal of the state of things. The government says that the people are the sovereign power that gives them their legitimacy, but they seem to like to take away the rights that the constitution guarantees the people, and they have basically declared the states subsidiaries of the Federal government. If the people were the sovereign power, the Federal government who is subservient to the people would not have the power to tax or legislate the people. Clearly, they can and do tax and pass legislation to limit the rights of the people. As far as I can see, the people are in a state of dependence upon the government, which is the only thing that prevents violent revolution.
 
So rddate are you saying the 10th amendment is meaningless?

As for the Gonzales v. Raich decision the 10th amendment was raised and the S.C. instead of claiming that the 10th amendment did not protect a state's sovereignty, they cited the commerce clause which gives the amendment legitimacy.

Also them citing the commerce clause was the biggest stretch of interpretation I have ever seen. A woman is growing 6 cannabis plants for personal medical use and some how in logical fallacy land that effects inter-state commerce?! Not to surprised at ruling since there were a lot of far left groups putting pressure on the justices to rule against state's rights. (The far left is NOT on our side, they are NOT for drug law reform!)
 
Hey now the 10th amendment is definitly not meaningless!

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
 
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