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Have you got any pics?

BTW i am using deca and dianabol and using ketamine recreationally with no liver supplements or milk thistle. Is this ok?
 
hi,
maybe i can help you with your roids. how often did you use roids before. how heavy and tall are u?
it's necessary to know...
how much nandrolone do you use?
in my eyes you have to use the dbols 8 weeks minimum. 4 weeks is too short. but i can write it detailed, if i know more from you.
 
Delsyd said:
Here is a post taken from a bodybuilding forum posted by BigA
hope this helps.



And thank you Andy for pointing this out and helping BL even as an ex-BLer
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Great post...sums everything up...

You need testosterone Bighooter but it might be too late to add it in...Just make sure to have a solid PCT lined up and it will feel like you never came off...

drop the k...drop the prtying...last thing you want is to end up sick like myself and lose 10 lbs in a week...
 
thanks so much for the advise guys, honestly dont know what i'd do without you

im currently now using 3ml (1.5ml each shoulder) twice a week

how come others have suggested using dianabol for 4 weeks then? obviously the longer youre on it the more prone to side effects etc

not going to do the test no more because my mate still hasnt given it to me yet
 
dianabol and other orals are extremely hepatoxic..meaning that they're damaging to the liver...Also, they're usually used towards the beginning of a test cycle with a longer ester in order to "kick start" the cycle because test can take up to 3-4 weeks to notice any effects.
 
I would continue to use the dianabol for 4 weeks in total and then stop the deca after 12 weeks. Still try and get the test. Running test+dianabol would be perfect for your next cycle.

Look to try and get some cheap milk thistle (you want to be taking like at least 1g a day) and some liv-52 (buy a few bottles- they only last 11 days each). Run them for the next 6 weeks or so to try and give your liver as much support as possible. Stay away from alcohol!

I can't beleive you can keep your diet up whilst taking K- that stuff kills my appitite.
 
bighooter said:
thanks so much for the advise guys, honestly dont know what i'd do without you
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I bet you'd probably do the exact same thing you're already doing since you're not following anybody's advice. You'r running deca alone as a first timer ffs.. and then throwing in dbol and anything else you can get your hands on.

I don't have any recent pics.. most recent are from 250 lbs and I'm 270 lbs now.
 
aanallein said:
I bet you'd probably do the exact same thing you're already doing since you're not following anybody's advice. You'r running deca alone as a first timer ffs.. and then throwing in dbol and anything else you can get your hands on.

I don't have any recent pics.. most recent are from 250 lbs and I'm 270 lbs now.
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damn you're 270 now!? Your body responded amazing to weight training.
 
I've been doing cardio lately and being somewhat stricter on diet so should trim down a bit. I think 270 is a bit heavy for me and 260 with like 9% bodyfat is something I would prefer to maintain.

I've suffered 2 injuries lately and its been a pretty big setback. :(

I went on a 18 mile hike (half dome in yosemite) at 4-8k elevation. I made it the entire way but my knees took a beating. It took 3 weeks to fully recover from that (first week I could barely walk). 2 weeks ago I strained my lower back deadlifting. I didn't warm up enough but even so.. it shouldn't have happened. I really don't understand what went wrong as I was doing 500 which is a warmup for me. Then a week later I was just doing light sets and at 315 on my 3rd rep (was my 6th set or something) I felt and heard a massive crunch. My lower back got pwned very very badly. It's pretty much done. I don't think I will be able to deadlift ever again. It is pretty disheartening because I was able to pull 610+ last year without problems. I was hitting high 500's for reps and feeling like a complete machine. Even on these 2 lifts where I was hurt I still felt strong, still didn't have any issue completing the lift, and I can still lift things no problem.. hell I was doing 130 lb dumbbells just yesterday on incline press. My back is just fucked and I don't know why. Just getting into my car or getting out of bed hurts. Sitting for long periods is near agony. I'm not even taking anything for the pain. I've just been blocking the pain mentally but after about 12 hrs of pain in a day I start to get a migraine and feel sick to my stomach. I haven't missed a day lifting though. Fuck it. My dad and brother both broke their backs so I guess its genetics.
 
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It's alright. I really should have, and probably did know, that something like this would eventually happen. I'm 6'4" and pulling hundreds of pounds off the floor with a family history of spinal stenosis and other back problems was pretty idiotic.

At this point I'm just trying to focus on the positive and will take it as a learning experience. I had a few beastly years but can't expect to continue like that forever. I started lifting at about 20 and made it to my prime by 25. I'm 27 now and need to look more long term. I'm not on any anabolics or recovery drugs so I can't treat my body the way I have and not expect to destroy it.

Immediate goals are to increase reps per set to 20 (and adjust weight accordingly) to shock my body while adjusting diet and cardio to lower body fat. It really is for the best I think. The fact that I was simply too heavy to make it on that hike without injury should have been the wake up call I needed. Apparently it wasn't enough because I was pretty stuck in my ways.
 
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wow...I put deadlifting on the backburner for the last month because of people critiqing my form and saying I round my back too much...I'll probably never go over 225lbs on deadlifts because of fear of injury...
 
Yeah seriously..

It feels quite a bit better today though. I had a meeting for ~8 hours and was sitting for 95% of it and it has hardly hurt at all the entire day. So hopefully it isn't something serious. I will never forget that feeling though. It felt like a chiropractor adjusted every vertebra in my back from the ribcage down to my tail bone simultaneously. There was atleast 1/2 inch of movement along most of it. Maaaaaaaybe (hopefully) it was a correction from years of it never ever having been adjusted and the pain the past week was just the soreness of having it all done so suddenly. I'm praying that is the case.
 
Thanks dude :)

I know that I can be grumpy on here at times and I appreciate everybody for putting up with my shit now and again. hahaha. Moodiness can sometimes get the best of me.
 
PARooolller said:
wow...I put deadlifting on the backburner for the last month because of people critiqing my form and saying I round my back too much...I'll probably never go over 225lbs on deadlifts because of fear of injury...
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Keep you shoulders back, chest and ass out. Focus on keeping your back as straight as possible during the lift. I used to lift with a rounded back and now know how stupid I was. Had to drop the weight 20-30% and work my way back up but it was worth it. I'm now trying to keep my head up and pull more with my legs and ass as I was rising too quickly and using my lower back too much for the last part of the lift.

Let us know how your recovery goes dude. Hopefully its just a minor setback and your back will be okay after a couple of weeks rather than a lifelong injury.
 
It's hard for me to check my ego at the doors on deadlifting day...I get so pumped up that I feel like pulling 4 plates on each side in front of everyone for reps...sadly, i feel those days are gone....

I do find that keeping my head up helps form but my arms are just too long...
 
Deadlifts look like such a simple exercise but keeping the form can be pretty hard. Sometimes I catch myself rounding my back on the last few reps.
 
bighooter... please also consider your mental condition. I know you have had some issues (no stigma or anything) in the past. It seems like what you are doing is very unsafe.
 
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