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Im currently on nandrolone and I have just purchased 482 testosterone 25mg pink tablets for £XXX, is this cheap?

Now on the foil bag it came in it said 'british dragon' now what steroids are these? and am I right in taking 1 a day?
 
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i just found out that its dianabol

anyway should i stay on this and nandrolone for 12 weeks?
 
British Dragon is a reputable lab...

Don't stay on the dbols for more than 6 weeks..preferably 4 weeks....Start off with maybe 20-40mgs and access your tolerance...

I hope you have some armidex or nolvadex on hand????/

Get ready for sides with the dianobol, although I think it would be the perfect steroid for you...you get an amazing sense of well being on it and strength increases are ridiculous...the deca will give you a more harder look oppossed to the dbol bloat....
 
I thought bd went under more than a few years ago, was told to stay away from anyone selling bd products. I still think the op should not be using aas. In his first post he says he has "testosterone tablets", that is a red flag right there that he is not ready.
 
You got em for an alright price- but 25mg tabs arent the most useful form. Dianabol has a tiny half-life so you want multiple times a day dosing- and 25mg is a good total dose for a day. I think people tend to go a little crazy with dianabol dosages so keeping in the 20-40mg range is recomended. you want to take something like 5mg every 3-4 hours.

You really NEED to do some basic homework on steroid use. Read all the threads in the "sticky thread graveyard" especially the "common steroid names..." thread.

Dianabol is notorious for causing gyno flare up and combined with a progesterone like deca I'd be a little concerned- if gyno starts up on a combo like that then its going to be difficult to treat.
 
omfg

so if i stay on it for 4 weeks and im on the nandrolone for 12 weeks, will i need a pct after 4 weeks on dianabol? But I still have 10 weeks left on my Nandrolone course, so would I just wait until the Nandrolone course is over?

So do you think I should split the pill into 4 quarters then? and take 4 times a day?

or would it be ok to take 1/2 upon waking and 1/2 before bed?
 
omfg

so if i stay on it for 4 weeks and im on the nandrolone for 12 weeks, will i need a pct after 4 weeks on dianabol? But i still have 10 weeks left on my nandrolone course, so would i just wait until the nandrolone course is over?

So do you think i should split the pill into 4 quarters then? And take 4 times a day?

Or would it be ok to take 1/2 upon waking and 1/2 before bed?

why don't you take the above posters advice and read the fucking sticky graveyard threads???? You have no business messing around with these substances when your not even willing to do a little research yourself. Come on man give this board a break
 
ok ive just had a look at a few articles on dianabol and I still dont have an answer.

Im going to stay on the dianabol for 4 weeks, but then i will still have at least 8 weeks on Nandrolone.

So I take it I dont need to take any PCT until AFTER my course is finished on Nandrolone?

and would it be beneficial to split a 25mg pill in half and have 1/2 upon waking and 1/2 at night?
 
guys can someone just please explain how i should cycle the dbol with the nandrolone?

I read somewhere that d-bol should be used for 4 weeks, then off for 4 weeks, then on for weeks. Then PCT at end of cycle.

I also read that it is better to take d-bol in the morning because this way it doesnt have so much of a strain on your endocrine system as opposed to 'topping up' allday long.
 
Well your going to be fucking pretty badly with it anyway by running deca- you will be shutdown from that so additional shutdown from the dianabol will not be noticed.

Yes it would be possible to run it 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 4 weeks on but your time on it will be more stressful for your liver. Also running something that gives a lot of waterweight and estrogenic sides isn't best just before you finish your cycle.

Splitting into quarters is advisable and taking them throughout the day. I would be aiming to maintain a steady state of the substance in your system so yeah 1 on waking and then every 4 hours or so from then on.

Because your still supressing your system from the deca a pct during the cycle isn't necessary.

You would have been much better spending your money on some injectable testosterone- it would have been much better suited than dianabol caps....

BD and went down and is now back. But there are lots of fakes...
 
That dbol and deca is going to destroy you shut down wise.

in what way?

So if I stay on it for 4weeks then just wait till ive finished the nandrolone to start a pct?

So If I split the pill up into 4, thats just over 5mg 4 x a day. This is better than taking it in 1 go?
I read somewhere that doing it multiple times a day does more damge to your endocrine system than taking it in just 1 go.
 
Both steroids are known for their ability to slow/stop natural testosterone production.

Yes.

Yes. Not in a permenant way. The only reason you wouldn't do multiple times a day dosing is if you were running a short (<4 week) cycle of dianabol only. Which again wouldn't be recomended due to the fleeting gains. As I've said before you will already be supressed from the deca- adding any dianabol will completely kill test production no matter whether it was taken in one large dose or in several smaller doses.

Jeez- you don't half need spoon fed do you?!? I SERIOUSLY suggest you invest some time and effort into researching anabolics. Buying a copy of Anabolics 2007 would be highly beneficial for you.
 
I have a book called Anabolic Primer which is more than enough info but from what ive read on the internet there are lots of contradictions from scientists saying 1 thing to another.

My strength has already gone through the roof, im lifting 10kg more on near enough every excerise and I have gained half a stone.

Having no bad side effects what so ever, so far so good.
 
glad to hear...just stick with the cycle and fininsh strong...Remember that a properly lined pct protocol is going to be the most important factor here....

Clomid or nolvdex or even both...clomid is my favorite but the emotional sides might get to you...
 
Jeez- you don't half need spoon fed do you?!? I SERIOUSLY suggest you invest some time and effort into researching anabolics. Buying a copy of Anabolics 2007 would be highly beneficial for you.

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing, this guy wants us to come to his house and feed him these pills, maybe go to the gym and workout for him too./joke sorry for the pointless post.
 
k thanks for the advice bud.
I will take HCG and Nolvadex for my pct.

my mate has just given me 20ml of test ex aswell and says this will make me put on alot of mass, shall i take this aswell or is it too risky considering ive been on deca nearly 3 weeks, and dianabol for nearly 1 week?
 
in what way?

So if I stay on it for 4weeks then just wait till ive finished the nandrolone to start a pct?

So If I split the pill up into 4, thats just over 5mg 4 x a day. This is better than taking it in 1 go?
I read somewhere that doing it multiple times a day does more damge to your endocrine system than taking it in just 1 go.

ever heard of deca dick? generally a solid cycle involves test which counteracts the sexual side effects of deca
 
Here is a post taken from a bodybuilding forum posted by BigA
hope this helps.

This is a general guide for beginning and intermediate bodybuilders that don't know the principles behind muscle growth yet or are not happy with the results that they are currently getting.

We will go through training, diet and gear. I will
tell you the principles behind everything that I
recommend for you to do, so you can understand why
certain things happen, so in the future you can fix
problems yourself.
Bodybuilding is a very simple and logical endeavour.
Everything that you do has to be logical. Only logical
actions will give you results. Every time that you
come across a new principle, always ask yourself it it
makes logical sense. If it does not, dump it!

TRAINING

Why does a muscle grow? Because it has to adapt. When
does it have to adapt? When you expose it to something
that it has not done before. When is something that it
has not done before? When the muscle is taxed 100%.
That's 100% effort. What's 100% effort? When you train
to 100% PHYSICAL, not mental failure. So, to make the
muscle grow, you have to train with 100% effort
otherwise, the muscle will not adapt/grow.
Now, using the above logic, for a set to be beneficial
to your growth, it needs to be 100% effort. So, a 100%
effort set of an exercise, will make you grow. Then,
what is the point to do a second set of that exercise?
You cannot go more than 100%. The muscle already has
been taxed by 100% from the first set, so why should
you do a second one? You will just eat into your
recovery ability.
So, you should only do one set to failure per
exercise. Later on, I will describe the training
program and how exercises and warm-ups are involved.

A muscle will not grow until it's recovered. The
muscle will not begin to recover until the nervous
system is recovered. It takes roughly 24hours for the
nervous system to recover from a workout. Only then
will the muscle begin to recover and grow. So, you
should never train 2 days in a row. Even if you train
different bodyparts, you still use the same nervous
system. You train 2 days in a row, your nervous system
recovers, but by the time the muscles begin to, you
train again, so the body has to concentrate again on
recovering the nervous system.
A training frequency of 3 days per week (Mon, Wed,
Fri) is more than enough. Numerous pros, including
myself, train like this offseason for maximum growth.
Even if you use streroids, you still have to train
like this. Steroids increase your recovery ability,
but they also make you stronger at a quicker rate. The
extra strength will give you the ability to train
harder/tear more muscle tissue, so you will need the
extra recovery that the steroids will give you.

The following is a great training program that I
recomend:

Mon - Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
* Incline press - warm-up sets, 1 work set
* Flat flyes - 1 work set
* Millitary press - 1 warm-up, 1 work set
* Lateral flyes - 1 work set
* Rear delt machine - 1 work set
* Tricep pushdowns - 1 warm-up, 1 work set
* Lying tricep extensions - 1 work-set

Wed - Quads, Hams, Calves
* Squats - warm-ups, 1 work set
* Leg press - work set
* Leg extension - work set
* Leg curl - warm-up, work set
* Stiff leg deadlift - work set
* Standing calf raise - work set

Fri - Abs, Back, Bis
* Rope crunches - warm up, work set
* Lat pull down - warm-ups, work set
* Deadlift - warm-up, work set
* Bent-over rows - work set
* Shrugs - work set
* Standing BB curls - warm up, work set
* Concentration curl - work set

You do a lot of warm-ups for your first exercise of
the day. You do one warm-up for the first exercise of
each bodypart, only to optimise the firing of te
neuropathways.
Let's use chest as an example - if for example your
max (work set) in the incline press is 3 plates, then
you do 2 warm-ups with the bar, 2 warm-ups with one
plate, 1 warm-up with 2 plates and then your work set
with 3 plates. The work set is a set where you fail at
about 6 reps. Every workout, you have to do more reps
or increase the weight in that work set (remember, the
muscle has to do something that it has not done
before). So if one work out you fail with 6 reps, the
following nothing less than 7. When you reach 8 reps,
the following workout you should do (increase) a
weight where you can do minimum 4 reps. Then increase
your reps again every workout until you reach 8 again,
and so on. Each rep has a tempo of 2-1-1. That is 2
seconds in the negative, one second in the contraction
and 1 second in the positive.
Then, after you fail in the incline press, you move
straight to flat flyes. You do not need a warmp now
because your chest is more than warm after you failed
on presses.
And that's it for chest. The basic routine stays the
same. If you want variety, small changes as using DB's
instead of BB or doing flat presse and incline flyes
for example, is mor ethan enough variety to keep the
muscle 'confused'.

DIET
VERY simple. Very important that you try to get as
close to 500g of protein per day. Easiest way to do
that is to have a whey protein shake in water with
every meal. Fats and carbs don't matter. Calories
don't count, macro nutrients (protein, fat, carb) do.
If you get to add fat on, just cut out the fats and
keep your carbs bellow 300g/day. That's all it is!
Very simple, but hard to stick to, so not many people
get results. On gear, the more protein you eat, the
more you grow. Is as simple as that. Gear maximises
protein synthesis.

GEAR
You need a testosterone base. 750mg/week is plenty.
You need an anabolic - deca or Eq at 400mg/week is
plenty. You need for optimum growth, a good oral like
d-bol at 30mg/d or A-50 50mg/d.
You use the test and the anabolic non stop. The oral
is 4 weeks on 4 weeks off. Every 6th week (the half
way point between the off oral period - so 2 weeks
after you finish the oral) you have a blood test. If
the blood test is OK, then you can begin your next 4
weeks on oral. There is no reason for you to come off.
The only 2 reasons are health or your receptors are
saturated. If the regular blood test is OK, your
health is OK. If you are still making progress, your
receptors are OK. Coming off, will just sabotage your
gains. That's why I do not believe in set time frames
for cycles. Listen to your body. When you use the
oral, you need to use all the liver aids available - Synthergine,
Milk Thistle, L-methionine, Liv-52, etc. Of course you
cannot drink or do rec drugs during that time. Using
these precautions, your blood tests will be OK.
You also need to use an anti estrogen like Nolvadex at
10mg/d throughout the whole time. Also, you have a
choice between HCG every 4 weeks at 5000IU or Clomid
at 50mg EOD. These will make sure that your balls will
stay at a decent size and they will not forget how to
function.
The blood tests that you need are: full blood count,
liver and kidney function tests, FSH, LH, TSH,
cholesterol.
If the Total protein test in the liver tests is high,
that is because of your diet. You need to keep an eye
on the Billirubin and Urea test results. Your FSH and
LH will be suppressed - that's normal because of the
gear. If the TSH is low, add 20mcg/d T3. If the kidney
function is off, then drink more. Protein stresses the
kidneys, so you need more fluids.
When you eventually come off the gear, you make sure
that you are off the orals. Then cut out the anabolic
over 2 weeks. Then the testosterone over 3 weeks. One
week after that, you need to add primo tabs or anavar
(oxandrin) for 3 weeks. That will ensure that you will
keep your gains.
Ideally do a gainkeeper's formula that is outlined in another article.

These are the basic principles behind muscle growth. You do the above you will GROW, no matter what.

And thank you Andy for pointing this out and helping BL even as an ex-BLer
 
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