Cocaine Speedballing

[Egeo_consilii]

Hi all, I have a rath specific question regarding the proper method of constructing a speedball. Yes, I've used the search engine, but similar questions alway end up with one of __responses. First, the infamous "utfse", or "don't shoot pills/don't shot coke it's bad", or third "use a micron filter!!!"

But none of these responses is either helpful to me, or really captures the essence of my question. What I want to know is:
I recently came into possession of a good ammount of cocaine, and quite a few dilaudid 8mg and roxi 30s.I'd like to do a speedball with said items. The problem I'm facing is thayer there doesn't see to be as simple, strait forested set of instructions. For example, how much coke should I place in the soon if I want to combine it with dilaudid? How muh dilaudid? Should I extract and prep IV, and then use this solution to dissolve the cocaine with?
Thank you for ecerybody's help. If somebody decided to issue the aformentioned warnings: that really isnt necessary, I am well aware of all the risks (I used the search! Lol) thanks!,

T.

 

[BrokedownPalace]

It's much easier if you do them one at a time. For instance, filter and draw up desired amount of dilaudid. Then, squirt that solution back into a clean spoon, dump your coke in the water, mix up, filter again, and draw back up. Two step process. Obviously micron filters are your friend when it comes to pills, but if you end up using cotton just filter it more than once to try and get as much as possible.

 

[pkt]

mix desired opiate with coke and shoot that motherfucker straight up, wait 5 secs and you'll be dreaming.

yeah, its that simple....

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I used to mix heroin and cocaine. Honestly, I'd just do the opiates by themselves. Just my 2 cents. Save the coke for when you run out of opiates and you're bored. It's easier to run out of coke and "be OK" with running out of coke. Just saying.

mix desired opiate with coke and shoot that motherfucker straight up, wait 5 secs and you'll be dreaming.

yeah, its that simple....

Honestly, I'd just be horrified and not "dreaming" mostly because of the prolonged "heroin comedown" that even 1 dose of it will give me.

Nonetheless, your post didn't really enhance any harm reduction by saying "shoot that motherfucker straight up"... so here's what I'd advise...

When I used to use heroin and cocaine, I predominantly snorted one and then the other, or would mix both into a single line. you could use one and then the other nasally, rectally, orally, really any ROA you want, but please be aware that injection drug use isn't something you should try without putting lots of time and energy into learning all associated information you could ever need to know about it first.

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Thanks to everyone who replied so quickly! Yeah I like the idea of saving them when I'm out-I tried the speedball; pure bliss indeed! Lol, but not something that I should be doing all the time, I think the capt. is right, saving for a rainy day is a good idea, because even by itself, it's definitly a "rush" haha. Oh and of course, micron filters are a must, I never leave home without them

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Oh I had another related question-not something I'd do probably (first because I have no access to said item, but also because it seems dangerous? Idk perhaps someone can enlighten me) What is the difference between shooting crack and shooting cocaine? I saw an episode of intervention, and the person said she was shooting crack...which I though was best smoked? Any difference or is it pretty much the same as shooting cocaine?

 

[THC2LSD]

When you shoot crack, you add an acid like vinegar/citric acid/vitamine c, this turns it back into regular coke.I have heard people claim it feels different. This is probably because crack has less/different cuts than coke, and freebase is like 15% more cocaine per gram than powder coke, due to the weight of the hydrochloride. Plus it might be a placebo effect where they expect crack to feel different.

When you smoke rock, some is burned up. So some get more out of their shit by shooting it.

 

[Sepher]

I dunno THC. Only ever shot coke straight a few times but used to bang rocks either on their own before hitting the smack up later, or cooked off in the same syringe, and IME coke IVed felt different to rocks made out of the very same bag of powder. Course it's very subjective, and the psychological side is definitely contributory to subjective evaluation of the effects, but crack had more of a slam, a bigger rush, and an almost immediate crash whereas I found coke a little smoother up and down, a lot more relaxed, and less generally intense. I can't explain why that should be even allowing for impurities in the coke that had been washed out in the rock.

Egeo, just for future ref on dose do what you'd do if you were shooting them individually. Don't be tempted to ramp up the opiate content so as to still be felt sufficiently underneath the coke, because when the coke crashes all you're left with is a higher than normal dose of opiates flooding your system, and that way lies overdose territory. Decent coke will dissolve pretty readily in cold water all on it's own. Crack, whether bi-carb or ammonia washed will need an acid to break it down. Citric acid, or vitamin C typically. You don't cook it, just grind it down with the end of the syringe as it fizzes away in cold water to itself. When the fizzings stopped and the spoons clear good to go. If I was speedballing with base H I'd add it now and give it a really gentle cooking.

 

[THC2LSD]

I dunno THC. Only ever shot coke straight a few times but used to bang rocks either on their own before hitting the smack up later, or cooked off in the same syringe, and IME coke IVed felt different to rocks made out of the very same bag of powder. Course it's very subjective, and the psychological side is definitely contributory to subjective evaluation of the effects, but crack had more of a slam, a bigger rush, and an almost immediate crash whereas I found coke a little smoother up and down, a lot more relaxed, and less generally intense. I can't explain why that should be even allowing for impurities in the coke that had been washed out in the rock.

Hmm, interesting. The freebasing process will remove some of the cuts like caffeine, plus the (benzoyl)ecgonine impurity, which are slightly soluble in alkaline water. Also maybe the citrates/acetates/ascorbates, being weaker acids, dissociates at a quicker rate then the hydrochloride. Only way to find out would be to cook some into rock, then convert some into the hydrochloride, and some into the other salts and try it without the test subjects knowedge of which is which. Though you shouldn't shoot hydrochloric acid.Look at korkodil addicts who shoot hydriodic acid with their drug!