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something you americans should know about the legalisation proposition

Johnny blue said:
Just because it says cops can come search without a warrant doesn't mean they ultimately will be able to. Its a big step.

I didn't read the whole thing either but
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It says NOTHING about the cops being able to conduct a warrantless search on your place of residence. If you are stupid enough to let the cops into your home without a warrant, I think you deserve whatever happens. That is just plain unconstitutional (as you said Johnny, I will give ya that).


I'm not trying to be annoying, but there is no point in commenting if you didn't bother reading the excerpt...
 
There's a limit on garden size because dealers could now legally grow large amounts. And selling (without license) is still illegal with the bill. Stop being so paranoid that police are going to inspect your garden, as if there are not more important things to do.
 
In my opinion, marijuana should be legalized where as alcohol and cigarettes should be made illegal. I have yet to know anybody to die as a direct result of marijuana. Look at cigarettes and alcohol though, especially alcohol. More teens drink and drive now, and in far record breaking numbers.


Keeping it short, though, it's ridiculous it's not already legalized.
 
I don't think anyone should complain about this bill and should be happy with what is being offered in the here and now. If you were to vote no on this bill, it would be interpreted by legislators as a sign that the current laws are lenient enough.
 
This is for california only. You'll must be tripping if you think the national leg is gonna legalize to any degree atm.

Yeah this bill isn't perfect, but I primarily don't want to see people going to prison for mj. This won't stop everyone from going to prison but less will be. It will also ease people's buttcracks so they won't think the world will end if mj gets legalized.

This also doesn't stop the CA leg from passes a better bill.

Also, this won't affect medical marijuana laws so one can still basically have fully legal weed in California if one wishes to go through the trouble of documenting a medical need with a doctor.
 
I agree with Huaca on a number of issues. If government cannabis is legalized outright, government overregulation might fuck things up. The idea the founding fathers had in founding this country was establishing a land of the free. The aristocrats that founded this country didn't necessarily believe the people could be counted on to make decissions in their own best interests. Hence the establishment of the electoral college and other vestiges of feudilism or lord daddy knows best. However, many of the founders of this country fought shoulder to shoulder with the farmers and blacksmiths, shopowners, and rumrunners, ect... that through off the yoke of Grand Britania's tyrany and began to see the resourcefulness and capacity for free thought of this new nation of free citizens. Some of the more elightened (like Jefferson and Madison) had faith in their fellow countrymen and their ability to know what is in their own best interest- seeing government as a measns of facilitating the persuit of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness as well as keeping people free of coercsion when the 2nd amendment wasn't enough. (hense 1st 10 amendments of the US Constitution).

Today: More and more we are moving toward a society of government, big daddy in washington or sac knows best. Alaska in 75' had a good model of decriminalization.

But there is another side of me that respects the french concept of terroir/appelations and AVAs in the CA wine industry and would like to see an analougous model be developed here. But, at there core, such models are anti libertarian. But, what one grows on there own land for personal use should never be taxed nor regulated by any government agency from the feds to city councils, to farmers guilds.
 
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