something interesting I found while my friend tripped on mescaline

[Carlqua]

lol fair enough shamanic light

 

[PhyllipThylamine]

Yeah, I also buy this psychosomatic reaction effect. Of course, some people are just hard-asses & don't get bodyloads from anything psychoactive. Other people may be fine on one compound, vomming their hearts up on another, & sometimes, identical doses of the same batch can have signifcantly differing side-effects as well as main effects. The same does with dosage, sometimes just a small variation can bring huge differences to effects both main, & side.

For anyone experienced with tripping it IS in fact a good idea to reinforce the old "OJ" story when allowing a newcomer to try something out. Tell them in advance that you're only giving them a low dose but they may still not like the experience, so you've got some first class fresh Orange Juice which will bring down anyone on a psychedelic. There is in fact a little truth to this (tripping dehyrates you of all anti-oxidants etc & replacing them can, sometimes level out a heavy trip) but the effects aren't nearly as strong as those brought by the placebo effect. I s'pose, equally, a multi-vitamin posing as a traquiliser is useful but some folk in a freak out because they've taken a drug are loath to take another one, whereas a glass of OJ is just a glass of OJ... with 2mgs valium in it Lol

OJ Trip-Stop, my patented psychedelic trip defuser.

 

[fly-]

Subconscious suggestions.

Non-words for Non-existence

One of the tenets of Neurolinguistics is that the brain does not automatically process negatives. This is to say that any statements that include the word don’t or prefixes such as un or non are initially (subconsciously) processed in the positive. This is because in order to affix meaning, the brain must associate something with the words spoken.

Here’s an example. When a parent says to a child, “Don’t spill your milk!” the child’s brain must subconsciously process, in effect, the command SPILL YOUR MILK. The negative don’t is affixed afterward in the conscious mind.

This is why psychologists advocate for using statements phrased in the positive. Rather than focusing on an outcome that is NOT desired, they suggest that the client focus on what IS desired. The negative statement “I don’t want to feel bad” is changed into a positive by saying, “I want to feel good.”

Another well-used example is this: “Don’t think of a pink elephant.” In order to understand those six words, to parse the meaning of the sentence, the listener has no choice but to imagine a pink elephant!

So every time someone uses a word, even if using it in a sense of negation – such as “non-affiliated” or “anti-establishment,” the listener is forced to make the association and think of the very concept being linguistically negated.

If someone says antibigotry, you have to process the concept of bigotry. And you have just performed the act of feeding – that is, perpetuating – the meme of bigotry.

Say nonviolent – you just perpetuated the meme of violent (a meme of hostility).

Say uncaring – you just perpetuated the meme of caring (a meme of empathy).

Say atheist – and you just perpetuated the meme of theist—a theist being one who believes in the existence of gods.

Words are invented, proliferate, and die just like living organisms. When a word falls out of use, all its cultural connotations begin to fade, which thereby hastens its disuse—it’s a downward cycle of decay. An example, in biological terms, is cell death; if blood is cut off from an arm or leg, the cells are starved of oxygen until finally they die.

In many ways, words have also lifecycles. Words such as buggywhip or scurvy or corvee (the dues paid by a serf, usually as labour, in return for use of his lord’s land) have died out. And what causes the death of the word? The disuse of the tangible thing it stood for, or the word as the symbol for the concept, or both?

Now imagine what would happen if people stopped using these words: demon, angel, devil, heaven, hell, sin, ghost, paranormal, supernatural, god.

By continuing to use the words, we perpetuate the concepts and the connotations of the words. We feed the memes. We keep them alive, just as a hundred years ago, the word buggywhip was necessarily kept fresh and alive.

What if no one used the word god at all? This is an interesting thought experiment and foray into cultural engineering. If people simply quit using the words for fantastical elements or entities, what would this do our culture?

Think about it. You’re approached by someone on the street who asks you “Do you believe in god?” If you respond, “In what? What does that mean?” Your questioner is stopped in his tracks, suddenly forced to give an explanation of a word of which he assumed that you were fully cognizant.

But what if you didn’t know the word because it had fallen into such disuse that it had suffered “cell death”?

Words are memes. They act as viral agents that spread and perpetuate ideas, concepts, attitudes. For atheists, it’s tough to talk about your perspective in only positive statements. If you say “I don’t believe in god,” you have just perpetuated the concept of god. Say “there is no heaven or devil,” and you have just fed the memes of both.

Non-use of a limb causes it to atrophy. And non-use (a negative, I know) of words causes them to slide into oblivion.

So what words can I use to express my personal paradigm?

This works well. “Self-awareness, and the ability to make this statement, leads me to the conclusion that I, and other human beings, exist. When confronted with mystery, I seek rational explanations and evidence that is, by consensus of the existing scientific community, viewed as empirical.”

Notice that this statement does not address what I don’t believe in. There is no use whatsoever of words for concepts that are, for me, imaginary or illusory.

Try it out. See if you can go for 30 days without using any terms for the ideas that other people may think of as real but you do not. At the end of those 30 days, check in with your brain and see how contents have shifted. You may be surprised. The next person who tries to stronghold you into a debate about religion will be even more surprised.

http://www.broowaha.com/articles/4267/dont-think-of-a-pink-elephant

 

[Shamanic Sight]

Been on a philosophy kick the past few days. ^^ that was an interesting read, especially with my love of languages; definitely did not know that. But I believe mere trickery in that (fragile/powerful) state of mind, could prove incredibly effective or could go terribly awry. Be careful what you give/tell someone who's tripping.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

i wish i could pull that trick with myself on 2C-E!
I think there is something about 2C-E that takes it in that negative direction more often than other psychedelics, rather than it being entirely a function of expectation.
I have a friend who loved it the first time but felt ill and overwhelmed the second time (about 6 weeks later).

i think it just hits somatic receptors hard and you really need to be super relaxed and/or determined to enjoy it. i tend to get an uncomfortable body and persistent muscle tension. sometimes, tho, the body is incredible and euphoric. and when its good its unbelievably good.
for me, dosing impulsively tends to lead to better effects than when i have cleared a time in advance for the tripping. really wish it was the opposite!

Yeah, yeah, this is totally how I'd describe 2c-e, the body load is mostly psychosomatic. You have to ride the feeling man, go with the flow of it and then it becomes an amazing body high, if you resist it can be very uncomfortable. So basically the same as with the psychological aspect of the trip.


P. S.Neat article fly.