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NORCO4LIFE

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So here is the story.. I have a case of Social Anxiety Disorder, meaning i can't go into a social setting with out getting really nervous or sometimes even take a panic attack. i cant connect to other people, or talk to them about the slightest thing, as none personal as it can be. ive been taking mdma on an occaisional basis (1 a month, or 2 months), and lately more (3 times a week) so i am not new to the effects of it..

I have never been able to go into a social situation for as long i could remember, and then 2 years ago a good friend of mine said here try this. i waited until night to do it. i figured since i don't go into social settings easily, i would do this with a few friends who i am close with, even though i still have a hard time conversing. exactly 1 hour after dropping, a smile actually came to my face! i started talking to them, i grabbed a phone and called other people that i dont normally talk to at all and talked to them like they were long time friends..

Lately i have been rolling more and more and more to help me get out and meet new people and socialize. that is until i stopped a while back (due to a night of eating more then intended "because it feels so good") <word of advice here.. if you have more pills then you intend to take, hide them well. because taking things to feel better then you already do is a dangerous and stupid act>

Now after using it, and having it help me meet people, i still go out even when im not on it to meet new people.. it feels as though i have become a new person :) i no longer need to take it to feel comfortable in a social situation *even tho it helps* but dont need to take it. i have been getting out more and enjoying life, and meeting people and bonding with out it..

Now for the question, Do you fellow rollers think it just might be possible that MDMA could have opened me up to others by helping me get out and meet people on a regular basis? do you think that there are more medical benefits from MDMA that we, or government knows about? has any body had the same situation as me? and has it helped any of you in your own way?

I know this was a long read, but i just want an opinion of fellow rollers :)
 
After my first ecstasy experienced, I spent a couple of weeks hugging everyone I met. The problem is that afterglows don't last. Psychedelics can pop you out of a rut, but in my experience you usually slide back into it.

Taking pills multiple times a week is the LAST thing you want to do to become more comfortable with other people. Stimulants may work in the short term, but people who get too into stims turn into nervous wrecks. Not the way to go. You're probably already noticing the law of diminishing returns with that stuff. Are you getting to that place of perfect peace every time you take a pill? Or are the guilty comedowns becoming more and more of an issue? Although it may seem otherwise, the chemical path doesn't lead to happiness or resolution of social anxiety.

One good path to feeling comfortable around strangers is meditation, or anything that calms you down. When you're calm and comfortable, you're natural happiness expresses itself easily. You don't have to act. I believe we have a well of happiness underneath all the stresses life lays on us. You can remove some of those layers of pain and discomfort through practice.

I like mindfulness meditation (sitting quietly for 10-20 minutes at a time paying attention to what is going on OUTSIDE of your mind, as opposed to your thoughts) and yoga, both vinyasa and kundalini. Those all work for me.

If you're serious about wanting to be comfortable with others (translation: being happy), the first thing you ought to do is stop abusing ecstasy. Then take everything else a step at a time.
 
Well MDMA's origins are that of an anti depression medication, so it does wonders for social anxiety disorder. Norco4Life, when I am on opioids, especially my yellow norcos, all my social problems are solved as soon as I take one. I turn into a happy life of the party guy. Not for you?
 
Be careful. MDMA draws out your issues and magnifies them. Not while you're high, but after you come down, and later.
 
I think you give the MDMA too much credit.

Yes, MDMA has an amazing capacity to change a persons perspective on the world. The feeling of well being can be used as a tool to help people become more comfortable with themselves, but thats all it is, a tool.

When it comes down to it, after you've stopped using MDMA the world goes back to the same as it was before, and quickly you find out that you cant use it to solve your problems.

If you ask me, you cured yourself, ecstasy just helped nudge you in the right direction.
 
i am highly away of what you all are saying.. and again i am not new to the effects and the history of mdma.. it was actually tested for weight loss before anti depressant.. but was rejected due to strange side effects.. the whole 3 times a week thing was just the last week before i stopped.. so it was only one week, and even then was still feeling the normal roll at the last time. i have also been meditating for 3 years.. it does help but only to a certain point, as with any anxiety disorder, staying calm only works for so long.. i will agree with your last post care, and i think thats what i meant to have said in my initial post, saying it helped me go in the right direction.. because the longest i have gone without rolling was around 6 months and in that time, i felt as if i do now, completely outgoing, because i got used to going out and meeting people so often it became second nature almost. i'm stopping for a freind for new years, so we will see what happens :)
 
i sometimes find it hard in social situations and when im on mdma that goes away completely, though comes back worse the next day hahah
 
nickels said:
Be careful. MDMA draws out your issues and magnifies them. Not while you're high, but after you come down, and later.
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This may be one of the wisest and best posts I've ever seen on this forum.

To the original poster - As someone who experiences mild/moderate & on rare occasion severe social anxiety I know just how powerful and therapeutic MDMA can be in dealing with this problem.

However, do be careful. There's this saying, "When you get the message, hang up the phone" and all I can caution is that if you've experienced a breakthrough with social anxiety through MDMA, now is the time to stop or proceed only with extreme caution.

Self-medicating with MDMA to treat social anxiety is seductive, but with continued use it can take you down a dark path - I know from personal experience.
 
vancbc, point well taken, but please not that i said i stopped a while back,, meaning im not rolling anymore. and still til this point has helped me. i took the message and hungup as you put it. i know not to press my luck with chems, especially in these situations... i also know from personal experience. lol.. but we learn from our mistakes, do we not.. i dont plan on doing mdma more then 1 or 2 times a year from here on in, if that much, and when i do, only a small dose just to not throw me over the edge i guess you could say..
 
NORCO4LIFE said:
vancbc, point well taken, but please not that i said i stopped a while back,, meaning im not rolling anymore. and still til this point has helped me. i took the message and hungup as you put it. i know not to press my luck with chems, especially in these situations... i also know from personal experience. lol.. but we learn from our mistakes, do we not.. i dont plan on doing mdma more then 1 or 2 times a year from here on in, if that much, and when i do, only a small dose just to not throw me over the edge i guess you could say..
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That's awesome that it helped you. MDMA helped me a lot too with social anxiety; in fact it made me almost a new person in terms of how I can meet other people and socialize with other people.

The down side was that I kept on using and after five years I was abusing and then I developed generalized anxiety. At least with social anxiety it kind of only kicked in when I had to be in social situations, but it sucked to feel anxious for no reason. Thank god that got less over time.
 
Care said:
I think you give the MDMA too much credit.

Yes, MDMA has an amazing capacity to change a persons perspective on the world. The feeling of well being can be used as a tool to help people become more comfortable with themselves, but thats all it is, a tool.

When it comes down to it, after you've stopped using MDMA the world goes back to the same as it was before, and quickly you find out that you cant use it to solve your problems.

If you ask me, you cured yourself, ecstasy just helped nudge you in the right direction.
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That's technically how all psychiatric medication is supposed to work. . .

This actually gives MDMA some credibility.
 
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That's technically how all psychiatric medication is supposed to work. . .

This actually gives MDMA some credibility.
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That is true for some drugs. Other drugs, such as SSRI's have to be used constantly in order to maintain the effect.

Some people that have mental problems get alot worse with MDMA use. It really is dependant on the user.
 
Living in the drug state is untenable

Excellent advice from the moderators. And anxiety isnt all bad, it can alert us to positive things.

There is a great picture on google "Are you overwhelmed with anxiety in social situations?" - check it out - and take it easy.

DX
 
Its possible, most will say afterglows fade after a while, but some experiences will change you for the long term, i have been much happier since my first acid trip, i learned that i should be happy just to be alive, and to be happy to have family and friends who care, that was a lesson that has stuck with me.

What probably happened with you was taking it allowed you to be social enough to start liking being around people, to just get over your anxiety and whatever it was that was causing it hopefully permanently resolving the issues.

Being happy without drugs should be the goal, personally i found that with LSD. Im happy for you if you found it in MDMA, just try to not overdo it, things can always get out of hand...
 
MDMA helped me alot socially, not so much as a medication but the experience itself taught me that social barriers can be broken and that you should just be able to speak from your heart.

Without my MDMA experience I dont think that I would have the balls to get up and dance like I do now when im out as I would have felt uneasy as if I was being judged the whole time.

I suppose it taught me that to live in fear of things like dancing in public is denying my own human nature, fuck what other people think :D
 
Care said:
That is true for some drugs. Other drugs, such as SSRI's have to be used constantly in order to maintain the effect.
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Not entirely true. SSRI's can be used to help change behavior and attitudes which can in turn change brain chemistry and not require their use. (and yes, I speak from experience, personally and professionally).
 
mdma use may help your anxiety, assuming you give yourself nice breaks in between rolls (once a month max). mdma abuse WILL make your anxiety problems worse after a certain amount of time IMO.
 
NORCO4LIFE said:
So here is the story.. I have a case of Social Anxiety Disorder, meaning i can't go into a social setting with out getting really nervous or sometimes even take a panic attack. i cant connect to other people, or talk to them about the slightest thing, as none personal as it can be. ive been taking mdma on an occaisional basis (1 a month, or 2 months), and lately more (3 times a week) so i am not new to the effects of it..

I have never been able to go into a social situation for as long i could remember, and then 2 years ago a good friend of mine said here try this. i waited until night to do it. i figured since i don't go into social settings easily, i would do this with a few friends who i am close with, even though i still have a hard time conversing. exactly 1 hour after dropping, a smile actually came to my face! i started talking to them, i grabbed a phone and called other people that i dont normally talk to at all and talked to them like they were long time friends..

Lately i have been rolling more and more and more to help me get out and meet new people and socialize. that is until i stopped a while back (due to a night of eating more then intended "because it feels so good") <word of advice here.. if you have more pills then you intend to take, hide them well. because taking things to feel better then you already do is a dangerous and stupid act>

Now after using it, and having it help me meet people, i still go out even when im not on it to meet new people.. it feels as though i have become a new person :) i no longer need to take it to feel comfortable in a social situation *even tho it helps* but dont need to take it. i have been getting out more and enjoying life, and meeting people and bonding with out it..

Now for the question, Do you fellow rollers think it just might be possible that MDMA could have opened me up to others by helping me get out and meet people on a regular basis? do you think that there are more medical benefits from MDMA that we, or government knows about? has any body had the same situation as me? and has it helped any of you in your own way?

I know this was a long read, but i just want an opinion of fellow rollers :)
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It's pretty common for stimulants, especially euphoric ones, to do this to you. The same thing happens with me on adderall/coke/X/whatever makes my heart go faster.


It's fucking wierd because sometimes stimulants feel EXACTLY like anxiety attacks, but the effect they have on how I interact with people is completely. the opposite. For me stimulants work better than benzo's when it comes to social anxiety (while benzos are better for stress).
 
yea i thought i could use mdma for my anxiety and shit but after a while that shit makes it ten times worse
i kno w what u mean by hiding pills when i tell myself only 3 pills tonight it quickly becomes 5 then i tell myself just one more i wanna feel good
 
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