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so i kno there is no real solid research on 2c-x's

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but what does your intuition tell you? how bad could these really be in the long term..you think they could be so bad that you like get cancer later? orrr like how rolls you should only do that like once a month? or any guesses how bad this shit could really be, cause they deffinetly are really potent chemicals an obviously your body doesnt like them physically a whole lot especially when you push the limits
 
Well let's hope it's not too bad hey.

Considering the amount of 2c-e I have consumed over time, and the 2c-b, 2c-c, 2c-i.

A friend of mine had a stroke on 2c-e, however I'm sure that was due to stress and sleep deprivation.


If I do find any information, I'll keep in mind to post it here for sure.
 
Over a decade of using 2c-xx compounds has so far shown no negative consequences in my experience.
 
Ditto. I have used them on an off for over five years and can't attribute any particular health problems to them (Although I have limited medical/scientific knowledge).
I know that Mescaline is none toxic and if you read Pihkal, Shulgin mentions that the 4 position (the main point of difference between Mescaline and 2Cxs like 2CB/I/C besides a methoxy group at the 2 position rather than the 3 in Mesc etc) probably remains in situ all the way through to excretion. I don't know if that applies also to 2CE/P or how the slightly different status of the 2CTs would be affected. Vaporising is apparently more risky since the potential for burning the material could lead to more toxic products, and is reputed to be very harsh on the lungs.
This was my probably ignorant rationale for not worrying too much about eating the 2Cs. I am more concerned about my weed smoking in the long term.
I think 2CB has been the most widely consumed of these materials due to it's legal sale for some years before banning. 2CI would probably be close behind on the black market. The trip wrecks and disaster type of reports tend towards incidents of unwise dosing or combination, susbsequent panic type reactions and the odd ideosyncratic health crisis rather than long term ill effects.
Some people mention psychological addiction. I did have a summer a few years back where I had to think hard to find a reason not to sneak a low dose of 2CB most days. However increased mental familiarity with the mindspace meant that it began to lose its sparkle somewhat and the 'issue' (If it ever was one) cured itself.
There is no point overdoing any of these things, but in general, the 2Cs seem pretty forgiving all round.
Peace - Pipp
 
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I have used 2CE and 2CI multiple times a week for a few weeks in a row before with no negative effects lasting beyond the nausea/bodyload from the dose itself. The physical stimulation effects seem like they could become unsafe at really excessive doses, but other than that they (at least other than 2C-T-7) seem pretty safe. I pretty much use them as often as I feel like it when I have them around.
 
Astro-Weezy said:
A friend of mine had a stroke on 2c-e, however I'm sure that was due to stress and sleep deprivation.
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Sorry to hear that, that's terrible. How did it happen if you don't mind talking about it? How much did he have? Is he OK now?
 
I hope he is better as well. That must have been one hell of an experience.

From what i can gather. I think the highest risk when working with RC's is impurities in the product. Many volatile and dangers/harmful chemicals are used to make many of the RC's on the market today. Nitromethane and what not..

Long term consumption of a 2cx or other compound that is not Real lab grade(containing impurities and etc could cause some damage over time. Who knows, possibly that is what causes HPPD in some people.

Myself have had not problem with negative side effects from 2cx compounds.
 
blobbymahn said:
Sorry to hear that, that's terrible. How did it happen if you don't mind talking about it? How much did he have? Is he OK now?
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karona said:
I hope he is better as well. That must have been one hell of an experience.
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Yeah he is completely fine now, he wasn't for about a two weeks though. We consumed approx 25mg, so not a overly high dose, however in this case I don't think the dosage had any part of the stroke.

I believe he was just pushing him self too hard, it had already been day at least 3 to 4 days without sleep for his behalf and working in between.


He is a rather experienced psychedelic user, however maybe irresponsible at times. I remember when we all (our group) went for a walk about an hour or so after consumption down to the park, night time. The others had never had 2c-e or any 2c's mind you. I can tell by the look on his face that he had some concern about himself, but didn't want to alarm the others as they were having a great time. So I just kept checking up on him now and then. He started loosing feeling in left arm and leg, then couldn't feel his body at all, he couldn't tell weather he was hot or cold. We all went home, the others were still not aware of what was going on. So he went and laid down, but with much concern and disorientation wasn't sure what to do.. ambulance or no ambulance.

To cut the story short, in the end it was an ambulance job. I didn't see him for at least 24 hours later when he got home, I chilled out at his house until he got back. The Doctor said he might not get feeling back in his left arm, and if he didn't they might not be able to do anything. A week later he was completely fine. I don't know too much about his experience of being in the hospital whilst on 2c-e. Though his visual apparently wouldn't go away after 12 or so hours... which was kind of weird.. so I believe that might of had something to do with the sleep deprivation. They also wouldn't neutralize the drug..and took them some quite time to work out what it was.. if they ever did.

He took it really slow before he had 2c-e again, but all is good. :)
 
these lab impurities...are they commonplace with RC vendors?

kind of scary.

or are we talking more about street rc's?

thanks so much
 
The halogenated 2cs appear safer than their amphetamine, DOx counterparts, as the 2cs are partial agonists at 5ht2a and 5ht2c, while the DOxs are full agonists (or at least closer thereto), the latter also showing 5ht2b agonism in some cases, which is cardiotoxic. Also, IIRC, 2ce releases norepinerphrine, which could make it more toxic at high levels. Luckily, its psychological potency likely keeps most people from pushing the dose too high. I don't think that the necessary research has been performed on the 2ct-series.

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