TDS So angry about the mother of my child

manboychef

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I just received a phone call from my ex whom is the mother of my one child. He is six. She was returning one of my many phone calls trying to reach him. Of course he wasn't there all she wanted to do was tell me how much of a scumbag I am for not being in his life. I am not in his life as a result of her.

She took my son in the middle of the night and filed orders of protection against me for her and my son. I had broken up with her, and was seeking custody due to the fact that she was stealing from me, and stealing from neighbors.
I came home one night from seeing my lawyer (I worked all the time, so I had to meet with him at night to start the paperwork) She realised what I was doing and called the cops and said I was abusing her and my son. There was no proof but I was required to leave my home for the night and stay at my dad's. She and her mother took my son and brought me to court. It was unfairly tipped in her favor and I ended up with supervised visits. Her mother was my supervisor and always threatened to make it so I couldn't see my son.

At this point I gave up on life. I started using drugs again, this time with no regard to living or dying because the best thing in my life was taken from me, and I was paying out all the extra money I had every week after my sixty hour workweek for the service. I didnt have enough money to feed myself let alone drive to go visit, so I sold drugs which turned into me using them to stop the depression and self loathing.

Fast forward five years. I have barely seen him because I live on the opposite side of the country. She rarely returns my phonecalls and will never call so I can talk to him on her own. The verbage in the custody aggreement states that we meet halfway and split the costs...I would think picking up the phone and letting me talk to him would be meeting me halfway. The phone call today was to tell me that if the shoes were on the other foot and I was the sole custody of my son she would stop at nothing to see him. She doesn't understand that Child support, distance, and fear are pretty good deterrents. I am so afraid of losing him again so I am terrified to get close. I tried killing myself on fathers day because the pain became too much, fortunately it didn't work. Basically, I am worried about starting a relationship with him because of the fact that she has no care how badly it hurt taking him in the first place, and that feeling is always on the table.

She tried to chew me out about it and I told her it has been five years and I am just coming to grips with the loss. I still have dreams that his crib is in my room and I hear him crying and I get up and look in the crib and nothing is there. I wake up crying sometimes because of this. She has no compassion for the situation. I had to stop her and say, you have no right to talk to me this way. You kidnapped our kid and made it impossible for me to even call him for a year. What gives you the right to question the way I handle this. I had to say, "thats enough, thats enough, you have no idea the emotional pain that comes with loss like this, you have no right to tell me I am not doing what I need to do." I am reminded of this everytime I get a paycheck and I can't pay my bills because of an extra 204 dollars going to my son, or whenever I see on facebook that she is going here with him, or there with him. I have stopped looking at facebook because it makes me cry sometimes.

I don't know what to do. I don't have the money to fight her in court...she gets free representation. I can't keep running faster to stay in the same place do the childsupport which doesn't afford me the money to drive/fly up and visit. I am sick of calling and leaving messages that never get returned until she wants to call into question what type of father I am. I sure as shit cannot keep going this way because I miss him.

The worst part is I go through each day wondering even if he knows I exist, and why she thinks just because she sometimes picks up the phone for me it makes her a much better person than me. We are two different people and all I want is just to be met somewhere in the middle. I can only afford once a year for her and him to fly down here to florida...I just wish she met me in the middle and used some of my child support on plane tickets.

I dunno, I'm just angry and feeling used up.
 
that sucks, i can imagine it must be difficult to visit when you live so far away and paying child support. its mean for her to guilt trip you after all she has put you through.
 
It's sad to see custody and visitation decisions end up like this due to the parent's manipulation. I'm thinking you could apply for legal aid in your county to maybe get a lawyer at a reduced rate. There must be some way to get your case revisited and modified. A child needs both parents! It's not fair that you cannot even speak to your son over the phone. What she's doing is ultimately only hurting the boy not letting him get to know you. I'm sorry you have to go through this. Pm me anytime you want to talk. <3
 
I appreciate it. My brother works for a father's rights lawyer. He agreed to do it pro bono. However, that means missing work and getting a writ of bodily attachment if I miss childsupport which will land me in jail if I go back to new york to fight this.

I guess this is just a lose lose for me and it got the better of me after talking to her yesterday. She texted and apologized. My exact words were "if the shoe were on the other foot I would call you sometimes so I can keep lines of communication open. You will never know what losing the one the thing that matters in your life is like, nor do I wish for you ever to feel it. All I ask is that you have some compassion and understanding of this situation as it has caused me no end of sadness."
 
Your situation continues to break my heart but also to highlight how unfair our court system really is to fathers. Again, I will stress how important it is for you to channel all the love that you have for your son into making your life a healthy life. This is truly the best thing that you can give him. No one knows what life will bring but for most of us it will include suffering. Give your child a model of what to do when he encounters unfair treatment, loss or grief (In truth, he is already experiencing this from a child's perspective. After all, he lost you as surely as you lost him). Killing yourself would damage him for life and that is not what you want. Use your anger at the unfairness of this situation to not only prove your fitness as a father but to show your son what true compassionate strength means. Your latest communication to your ex models this. Stay strong and keep writing your son letters, send him books with a message in the front, send him funny cards. Do your best to communicate your love directly to him in whatever ways you are allowed to do by the courts and keep fighting for more. My heart goes out to you.<3
 
I'm sorry that this is happening to you. Can you get any visitation rights at all? Or see if a lawyer will take on your case for free since your ex gets a free lawyer?
 
This totally sucks. It's like the deadbeat dads ruined it for every dad who wants to be there for his kid. When I got divorced from my daughter's father the courts treated him like shit - and he is a GREAT dad! They sacked him with a ton of child support even though I said I didn't really need it at the time. It was my idea to get divorced, and all we wanted to do was co-parent, but the courts automatically assume that any divorce or dissolution of a union where there is a child involved is rife with dysfunction, and that it's always the dad's fault. I have seen so many LOSER chicks keep custody of their kids - my crack head ex-sister in law, who, drugs aside (because I am guilty of that), neglects her children KEEPS HAVING MORE, for one. It's so backwards.

It's like, women have been fighting for equal rights for a century and then people like your kid's mom go and fuck up the balance so men have a reason to think women are all vindictive, crazy bitches.

It blows my mind.

I'm really sorry this is happening to you, it breaks my heart that you can't be with your son. I can't imagine only seeing my little girl once a year.
 
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OP, what your baby momma is doing is called "parental alienation" and it isn't cool at all. I hope that your kid doesn't grow up with the false impression that you weren't there by choice.

I'd start a diary writing out your feelings. Maybe some years down the line you'll be able to give it to him so he understands that you loved him the whole time and wanted to be in his life, and simply couldn't because of the law/your baby momma.
 
OP, what your baby momma is doing is called "parental alienation" and it isn't cool at all. I hope that your kid doesn't grow up with the false impression that you weren't there by choice.

I'd start a diary writing out your feelings. Maybe some years down the line you'll be able to give it to him so he understands that you loved him the whole time and wanted to be in his life, and simply couldn't because of the law/your baby momma.

I actually have an email account that I send my personal thoughts to that I will give him the username and password to when he turns sixteen.

I also document whenever I try to call, and I save all the text messages from her, and all the reciepts on what I spend on him. Basically I'm just sick of getting fucked.

Sunday is the day that I call my ex to talk to him between the hours of 5 and 6pm. Called twice, left a message the second time, followed up with a hey call me back, I want to talk to my son text. No reply.

Throughout the week I can call between 6 and 7pm to her mother (who is kinda a grifter). I didn't call on monday because I kinda got my hopes up that my ex might have gotten the message and given me a call so I could talk to him. So I called tonight, at six, six thirty, and seven. Her mom never picked up the phone. Same text message. Hey its manboychef, manboychef's son there? please call me I want to at least say goodnight to manboychef's son. No reply. Past his bedtime now.

I've written him so many letters, and I come to find out from my dad who still lives near her that she has never opened and read any of them to him, or given him any of the pieces of artwork I have made him. She won't let me come up and pick him up and bring him back to florida (at my expense). She only comes down when I go in with my family and get her and him a roundtrip plane ticket which is steep to orlando, as it is a vacation destination. Basically, she gets a free vacation and I get to see my son a few hours over a week. However, she can go all over europe and is quickly becoming covered in tattoos (which aren't cheap). The verbage in the custody agreement states that we meet halfway and split costs. So far, I pay child support and I make all the phone calls, send all the letters, pay for any travel, and I'm just tapped out anymore.

I am just extremely sick of getting my hopes up. She straight up kidnapped him when I broke up with her. That pretty much destroyed my heart and soul. I was a wreck for a long time. I worry constantly that if I get close to him again, and develop a bond again that I will lose him again. I don't think I have the strength to go through that again. It nearly destroyed me before.

I dunno, I guess im just venting now. I'm just pissed off about getting blown off, and I cannot afford to go back home to fight this in court because child support is kicking my ass.
 
My ex's mother picked up the phone. My son was there, but was having a meltdown (he is six) so I didn't get to talk to him. I am going to try to call again tonight. I heard his voice (even though it was yelling) in the background and a warm feeling washed over me. I am so elated...maybe things are changing. I know I shouldn't get my hopes up too much, but it is hard not to when I am so close.
 
I actually have an email account that I send my personal thoughts to that I will give him the username and password to when he turns sixteen.

I also document whenever I try to call, and I save all the text messages from her, and all the reciepts on what I spend on him. Basically I'm just sick of getting fucked.

Sunday is the day that I call my ex to talk to him between the hours of 5 and 6pm. Called twice, left a message the second time, followed up with a hey call me back, I want to talk to my son text. No reply.

Throughout the week I can call between 6 and 7pm to her mother (who is kinda a grifter). I didn't call on monday because I kinda got my hopes up that my ex might have gotten the message and given me a call so I could talk to him. So I called tonight, at six, six thirty, and seven. Her mom never picked up the phone. Same text message. Hey its manboychef, manboychef's son there? please call me I want to at least say goodnight to manboychef's son. No reply. Past his bedtime now.

I've written him so many letters, and I come to find out from my dad who still lives near her that she has never opened and read any of them to him, or given him any of the pieces of artwork I have made him. She won't let me come up and pick him up and bring him back to florida (at my expense). She only comes down when I go in with my family and get her and him a roundtrip plane ticket which is steep to orlando, as it is a vacation destination. Basically, she gets a free vacation and I get to see my son a few hours over a week. However, she can go all over europe and is quickly becoming covered in tattoos (which aren't cheap). The verbage in the custody agreement states that we meet halfway and split costs. So far, I pay child support and I make all the phone calls, send all the letters, pay for any travel, and I'm just tapped out anymore.

I am just extremely sick of getting my hopes up. She straight up kidnapped him when I broke up with her. That pretty much destroyed my heart and soul. I was a wreck for a long time. I worry constantly that if I get close to him again, and develop a bond again that I will lose him again. I don't think I have the strength to go through that again. It nearly destroyed me before.

I dunno, I guess im just venting now. I'm just pissed off about getting blown off, and I cannot afford to go back home to fight this in court because child support is kicking my ass.
I think you are doing literally everything you can. I just thought I may be able to give you a piece of mind with my story; My father and mother separated when I was just 2-3 years old so I didn't have any memories of a whole family or them being together. My dad was VERY out of the picture for a long time. He didn't do any of these things that you're doing, the letters, artwork, messages, calls, etc. I still was always yearning for him. Not so much when I was very small, I was little and in my own blissful ignorant world, but as I got older it only grew. Without the evidence of his love for me, or knowing that he also wanted to spend time together, I still wanted to be his daughter and see my father. My mother had quite the drinking problem at this time as well, and she would occasionally bad mouth him and say things about his absence and his lack of care for us. Her being my mother, obviously I took these sayings to heart and thought maybe he didn't care about us much or at all. With all that I have told you, I still loved him and wanted him in my life, I knew that we were suppose to be together and we definitely loved each other. It didn't matter what happened or what I was told, even the time spent without him (assuming he didn't want to spend time with me) I still loved him and wished to be with him. My heart ached for one thing, my father, and time spent with him. Just as I am absolutely positive that your son's heart aches for you, even if he's too little for this understanding, and maybe it's just a subconscious thing at the moment, he still loves you to death and would love to spend time with you. Worse case scenario, having to wait for him to be of age(12years old) to decide who he wants to spend time with, and how much time with, he will always want to be your son and want to hang with his dad. Also when I was old enough to understand what kept him from spending time with me, I was more than ready to accept the reasons why(which were much lamer than yours), as some ones child you're very understanding and forgiving to your parent. You not being able to see him as much as a father should is entirely out of your hands, there is no fault for you to take. Also, as you have learned, the court system always favors the mother, and understanding this, is a huge part of the reason. The worse thing that will come of this is the time together with him, stolen from you and your son, as well as the resentment he will grow for his mother, she doesn't seem to realize it now, but she will as he gets older. I often thought about who was to blame for putting us through this, these negative feelings aren't productive but they're very natural. I know you know, from other life experiences, that when you are in the worst/bottom of the bottom situation with something, it can only get better from there on out.
 
Well I document my phone calls now. When he is with my dad he always wants to talk. It is kinda disheartening....It seems like he is afraid to talk to me when he is with his grandma or mom.
 
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